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(Date Posted:08/10/2002 19:02:04)
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This thread is for your ideas and suggestions. Please let me know if you have any other ideas for this category; I'm really interested in your input. One thing I'm interested in knowing is whether we should do just one book at at time. I'm wondering if we should treat this category kind of like a class where we deal with a sequence of books, with the books being chosen in the order people need in order to recover from religious fundamentalism. On the other hand I'm wondering if that might not be too restrictive and just leave things open for anyone to start a group of threads for a book any time they want. In other words do you want this kind of like a guided class, or just a free-for-all?
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(Date Posted:08/11/2002 17:17:24)

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This thread is for your ideas and suggestions. Please let me know if you have any other ideas for this category; I'm really interested in your input.One thing I'm interested in knowing is whether we should do just one book at at time. I'm wondering if we should treat this category kind of like a class where we deal with a sequence of books, with the books being chosen in the order people need in order to recover from religious fundamentalism.




First I feel that this is a fantastic idea! I have found over my months here that we are a group that loves to read and I have found my way to many great books that were referred by other members.

I think, so far as the format goes, it may be beneficial to incorporate both methods that you mentioned. Distinguish the threads by titling them as referrals or ongoing studies. Both would be beneficial to all, allowing reviews, commentary and open discussion with regards to contents and applicability.

Along with these, I'm sure that there are people like myself who are looking for books on certain topics and could use the assistance of those who could steer us in the right direction.

I'm greatly looking forward to the evolution of this category! Thank you Voltaire and St. Thomas!!
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(Date Posted:08/11/2002 20:51:50)

I am so excited about this new category!
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(Date Posted:08/11/2002 22:09:59)

How about this: one thread for for book reviews called "Book Reviews" , and another thread for Book Referrals called "Book Referrals". I could maintain an index at the top of both threads that has a list of books covered in the thread.
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(Date Posted:08/12/2002 03:50:19)

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How about this: one thread for for book reviews called "Book Reviews" , and another thread for Book Referrals called "Book Referrals". I could maintain an index at the top of both threads that has a list of books covered in the thread.




That sounds really good. I'm looking forward to this new section!
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(Date Posted:08/12/2002 06:32:35)

I think I've got a better idea. Just have an extra thread called "Reviews And Referrals" for each book. That way the thread will show up in the stone stupid search utility Aimoo has. I'll update the Introduction And Guidelines thread and let me know what you think.

Remember this is all an experiment to see if we can come up with a way of organizing things so they can be found. Keep on giving me your ideas!
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(Date Posted:08/12/2002 15:44:05)

Hey, Voltaire,

It strikes me that there are already a few threads in the "Resources" section that give lists of interesting books that might prove more useful in this catagory. I found two here:

Top 10 Fundy Books

Walk Away Books

We could move them over here into a general resources area to give folks a reading list. Go ahead and move them if you like. Seems like a great place to put all lists of potential helpful reading material.
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(Date Posted:08/12/2002 20:15:47)

If you're looking for confirmation to say this is a good idea: Yippie, Hurrah, Exlaimation! Bring it on... sounds like a great idea. I "eat books like air" so I'm always interested in other people's suggestions!
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(Date Posted:08/19/2002 01:57:03)

am drunk as i write this so ignore typos...please!

dead sea scrolls - the actual texts should be a must.  realising a wierd group of fellas 2000 years ago were fundies kinda helps you feel less daft about being a fundy (then ex) yourself in this century. trust me it works!

secondly...how about helpful songs? losing my religion being the most obvious but strange fire by the indigo girls is cool also.

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(Date Posted:08/20/2002 06:57:13)

Just a suggestion: there's lots of good reading on the web, so maybe we could have threads where we discuss good websites?

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(Date Posted:09/02/2002 06:27:21)

The best book I have read on the subject is "The Case Against God" by George H. Smith.
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(Date Posted:05/24/2003 10:49:08)

I am an avid historian, albeit a journeyman one. I would love it if there were enough people who wanted to get into the meat of history books, whether they were from a religious perspective or not. I hope I am not the only one. Admittedly I haven't read much literature that concerns religion or negating religion based on other arguments, so I would be a weak link in that department. I have to admit, still being a believer, I am reading the 11th installment of the Left Behind Series entitled Armageddon, for those who don't know. Please, if anyone would like to get into some of these other topics deeply like history (my major is American History) let me know. If there are any topics of interest that perhaps I can help out with, again, let me know. I have read some great literature in my tenure at the University of Washington; literature that is not cliche or mundane either. I really want to get involved in this, as soon as I graduate of course. As a sidenote, since this reply is all over the map anyways, I thought I would bring up Jihad vs. McWorld, a book which will be the first I read after I graduate. It is essentially a critique of west  vs. middle east, xtianity, or America's brand thereof vs. Islamic culture, the extremes of each and so on. I heard it's an awesome read for those interested in the dichotomies and paradoxes of each cultural body, the presumptions, generalizations and truths of terrorism, corrupt governments and the like. Anyways, I am done for now.

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This thread is for your ideas and suggestions. Please let me know if you have any other ideas for this category; I'm really interested in your input.One thing I'm interested in knowing is whether we should do just one book at at time. I'm wondering if we should treat this category kind of like a class where we deal with a sequence of books, with the books being chosen in the order people need in order to recover from religious fundamentalism. On the other hand I'm wondering if that might not be too restrictive and just leave things open for anyone to start a group of threads for a book any time they want. In other words do you want this kind of like a guided class, or just a free-for-all?
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(Date Posted:05/27/2003 21:21:25)

Yeah!
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am drunk as i write this so ignore typos...please!dead sea scrolls - the actual texts should be a must. realising a wierd group of fellas 2000 years ago were fundies kinda helps you feel less daft about being a fundy (then ex) yourself in this century. trust me it works!secondly...how about helpful songs? losing my religion being the most obvious but strange fire by the indigo girls is cool also.saph

Re: songs, I liked these while I was walking away (in addition to Losing My Religion)

Carnival by Natalie Merchant.

MMM MMM MMM MMM  by Crash test Dummies

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(Date Posted:01/10/2004 22:09:59)

I suggest we all read "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn and then discuss the book. The book will change everything for you once you read it.

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This thread is for your ideas and suggestions. Please let me know if you have any other ideas for this category; I'm really interested in your input.One thing I'm interested in knowing is whether we should do just one book at at time. I'm wondering if we should treat this category kind of like a class where we deal with a sequence of books, with the books being chosen in the order people need in order to recover from religious fundamentalism. On the other hand I'm wondering if that might not be too restrictive and just leave things open for anyone to start a group of threads for a book any time they want. In other words do you want this kind of like a guided class, or just a free-for-all?




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"His Dark Materials" by Phillip Pullman is a children's novel which was voted in the ten ten best books for the BBC series "The Big Read" which was shown late last year.  The author has been accused of questioning christianity as one of the main characters goes to heaven to argue with God.  I haven't read it yet but I'd like to. You can read a review of it at www.bbc.co.uk/arts/books/author/pullman/index.shtml.

 

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"His Dark Materials" by Phillip Pullman is a children's novel which was voted in the ten ten best books for the BBCseries "The Big Read" which was shown late last year. The author has been accused of questioning christianity as one of the main characters goes to heaven to argue with God. I haven't read it yet but I'd like to. You can read a review of it at www.bbc.co.uk/arts/books/author/pullman/index.shtml.




I've read "His Dark Materials" or The Golden Compass, The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass since the actual title is in teenytiny type on the covers. All those fundies who squeal about Harry Potter just prove how illiterate they are by NOT being up in arms about those kids books. It's a phenominal work that makes fundamentalism into the moral and emotional cesspit it is. You have the dead escaping the afterlife for the mental peace of oblivion, a church that would willingly murder and mutilate to protect it's dogma. HAve to read it if you haven't. 'Sides, its fun.
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(Date Posted:01/22/2004 23:20:58)

I've just taken "Northern Lights" (or "The Golden Compass") out of the library to read and have read the first few pages.  It seems to me a bit heavy for older children or young teenagers to read even though the main character is eleven years old.  The style of writing is a lot different from the Harry Potter series or the Narnian chronicles.  There is a biography of Philip Pullman written by Nicholas Tucker called "Darkness Visible - Inside the world of Philip Pullman" which explains the spiritual significance of "His Dark Materials".  Matt and John Gribben also explain the science behind "His Dark Materials" in their book.
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(Date Posted:08/06/2007 02:37:21)

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This thread is for your ideas and suggestions. Please let me know if you have any other ideas for this category; I'm really interested in your input.One thing I'm interested in knowing is whether we should do just one book at at time. I'm wondering if we should treat this category kind of like a class where we deal with a sequence of books, with the books being chosen in the order people need in order to recover from religious fundamentalism. On the other hand I'm wondering if that might not be too restrictive and just leave things open for anyone to start a group of threads for a book any time they want. In other words do you want this kind of like a guided class, or just a free-for-all?

 

Would anyone think it beneficial to subdivide book discussions into something like "For those who want to leave Christianity entirely" and "For those who want to leave Fundamentalim"?

Or possibly have different threads led by those who have read the respective books?

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