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(Date Posted:03/25/2003 14:53:39)
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Just thought to share:AU Says Pat Robertson Sees the LightA March 18 press release from Americans United for the Separation of Church and State announced that Pat Robertson uttered the unimaginable the previous day on the 700 Club. According to the AU: "TV preacher Pat Robertson has called on President George W. Bush to ensure that the post-war government of Iraq is secular and maintains the constitutional separation of church and state." "Speaking on his '700 Club' program March 17, Robertson said, 'The thing that the president of the United States has got to keep in mind is, under the Ba’ath party, Iraq was a so-called secular state. That's why many of the Islamic nations don't like [Saddam Hussein]. If the United States tries nation building, it's got to [have] at the very top of its agenda a separation of church and state. There has to be a secular state in there and not an Islamic state. If they let an open vote, and let the Shi’ites for example take a vote, they will probably have the majority, and [under] one-man one-vote will say, we'll go in for shariah, and the next thing you know, you've got a mini-Iran in there.' "Continued Robertson, 'So it's going to be absolutely imperative to set up a constitution and safeguards that say we will maintain a secular state much like what Indonesia has, but to respect the faith of all the people in there, including the Sunni and the Shi’ites and the Christians and the Assyrian Christians, whatever, and the Kurds. Very important.'" Robertson's stance in favor of Church-State separation contradicts previous recent statements. According to the AU release, in a speech at the Christian Coalition "Road to Victory" Conference Oct. 12, Robertson said, "We have had a distortion imposed on us over the past few years by left-wingers who have fastened themselves into the court system. And we have had a lie foisted on us that there is something in the Constitution called separation of church and state." Americans United Executive Director Barry W. Lynn had this to say about Robertson's conversion to the ideals of secular government: "Pat’s conversion shows there is hope for even the most wayward soul," said Lynn, tongue planted firmly in cheek. "I sent him a letter of congratulations and an Americans United membership application in today’s mail. We are always looking for new supporters, especially those with the kind of financial clout that Robertson has."Stumpy
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(Date Posted:03/25/2003 19:06:21)

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There has to be a secular state in there and not an Islamic state. If they let an open vote, and let the Shi?tes for example take a vote, they will probably have the majority, and [under] one-man one-vote will say, we'll go in for shariah, and the next thing you know, you've got a mini-Iran in there.




The operative word here is Islamic. The very idea of a non-christian government operating anywhere in the known universe sent chills down his very upright spine. IMNSHO, if the primary belief system had been christian, he would have wasted no time in declaring that god was in charge and praising GW to the heavens for bringing rightousness to the poor Iraqies (sarcasm mode off).
OK, call me a cynic but I have a feeling Robertson will really see the light the day after my cat grows wings and flys to Miami.
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(Date Posted:03/26/2003 03:54:27)

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The operative word here is Islamic. The very idea of a non-christian government operating anywhere in the known universe sent chills down his very upright spine. IMNSHO, if the primary belief system had been christian, he would have wasted no time in declaring that god was in charge and praising GW to the heavens for bringing rightousness to the poor Iraqies (sarcasm mode off)





Agreed. Ol' Marion is just playing both sides of the fence to make sure that when he sends his own Shocking and Odd troops into Iraq they won't get harrassed by the government in power. (Would the current regime even bother? Since Iraq is officially a secular country, seems like Saddam by rights wouldn't care whether his subjects were Muslim, Christian, or Discordian as long as he could treat them like playthings...)

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(Date Posted:03/26/2003 05:55:01)

Sorry, no miracle here.

Pat Robertson has simply re-discovered the policy that the Papacy in Rome always used, namely "support non-sectarian government where catholics are the minority, but catholic government where catholics are the majority".

Someone ought to ask that bozo what his position is on non-sectarian government in the good old US of A. Betcha his response would be different.

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