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(Date Posted:04/10/2012 13:35)

I have mentioned in some other post or topic that for some warped reason I am always interested in Christmas Series sponsored by Retail Outfits,   probably goes back to my original exposure to the Goodyear and Firestone Series.

So my question is this ,   the JC Penny Series,   I think I have all the Albums from the group but two have me seeking information   Spirit of Christmas C-10389    and Winter Memories  C-10390.    Both are released by Columbia Special Products  but I cannot determine when they were released.

The sequential numbers of the two indicate they were probably released the same year.  Finding other Columbia Special Products LPs    with  id numbers close to those above .   I might be able to guess that they were 1970   or maybe 1971.

Can anyone help with any "official"   release dates?
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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/10/2012 20:15)


Here is the complete history of JC Penney's LP releases:


JC Penney Christmas albums:

1964: A Christmas Festival Of Songs And Carols, Volume 1 (RCA Records – catalog #PRM/PRS-170)

1965: A Christmas Festival Of Songs And Carols, Volume 2 (RCA Records – catalog #PRM/PRS-195)

1971: The Spirit Of Christmas (Columbia Records – catalog #C-10389)

1972: The Golden Glow Of Christmas (Columbia Records – catalog #C-10925)

1973: That Christmas Feeling (Columbia Records – catalog #P-11853)

1974: The Brightest Stars Of Christmas (RCA Records – catalog #DLP1-0086)


JC Penney winter album:

1971: Winter Memories (Columbia Records – catalog #C-10390)



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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/11/2012 07:00)

Thanks Chip  exactly what I was looking for and I feel a little bit euphoric in that my deduced dates for the two LPs was pretty good.

Kind of interesting the time gap in their releases,  nothing between 1965 and 1971 .  Wonder why,    that gap was kind of the heyday of the retail store sponsored Christmas Album releases.  




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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/11/2012 11:44)


Yes Steve, that period of the late 1960s was indeed the heyday of the retail store sponsored custom-made '
collector's series' Christmas compilation LP releases. And the five year gap in the JC Penney sponsored LP releases between 1966 and 1970 is quite unusual. My guess has always been that perhaps they just felt they couldn't compete with the Goodyear, Grants and Firestone releases, which were very popular at the time. There were also other retail sponsored releases at the time, including those from the BF Goodrich and True Value Hardware.


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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/11/2012 13:03)

Yes ,  like I mentioned that retail  sponsored niche is one that I just kind of like and found many Various Artist Compilations.   there are just a huge number of them and I keep stumbling on more,  I am kind of down to the one of a kinds now.   The Fanny Farmer ,   Drambuie,   EF Macdonald  and on and on.  I spend more time looking at the back of the LPs  in the thrift stores now looking for the Specially Made for comments than I do on the covers and artists.

The other hard part if trying to understand how many LPs out there were sponsored by Retail , but they only put a sticker claiming that on the shrink wrap  and of course the shrink wrap in most cases is long gone.  Firestone did that late in their Christmas LP releases.


Anyway  thanks for the info. 

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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/11/2012 22:41)

IIRC, Bing even had a 'one of a kind' that was him in a LayZboy chair and songs culled from various LP's.
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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/12/2012 00:35)


That Bing Crosby compilation LP that you are alluding to, Johnny, was entitled Songs Of Christmas. It was manufactured by the Custom Department division of Decca Records for the La-Z-Boy Chair Company. The LP was released in 1960 and the Decca Records catalog number was #DL-34461.






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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/12/2012 07:15)

This is the one from Fanny Farmer I mentioned.
It specifically a Bing Crosby one.  Sorry for the shrink wrap ripples in the picture.
Like the other the playlist appears to be taken for a lot of other LPs.
Not exactly sure of the date on this one.  Again its an MCA with the arrow logo





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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/14/2012 05:16)

A little off topic here, but those last few postings on the Bing Crosby albums reminded me of something.

First, concerning Steve's comment about the shrink wrap... Years ago when I was in school - and many years before the CD when all we had were albums - a friend of mine who lived in my dorm told me to always remove the shrink wrap because it can build up heat and cause warping.  Prior to that, I used to always leave it on to protect the cover.  I should add that my friend also warned me of the dangers of stacking records on top of one another.  After all, it was the '70s when they used to have those stackable turntable spools which used to make my friend cringe.  See, who says you don't learn anything in college?

So now I'm wondering how the music aficionados on this board store the albums in their collections.

Secondly, about Bing Crosby... Last year I ordered the DVD containing four of his annual Christmas specials.  The first one, from 1961, really surprised me for its lack of Christmas songs.  I guess in those days a Christmas special was just a regular show which happened to be on in December.  Things really have changed in that regard.  I can remember as a kid what a rarity it was to see a house decorated for Christmas before the 9th or 10th of December.  These days, you're falling behind if your decorations aren't up by Thanksgiving, and, by now, we've all come to expect Christmas music on the radio in early November.

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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/14/2012 09:29)

I have the La-Z Boy Chair album and asked about it if a previous post

http://forum1.aimoo.com/theyulelog/YULE-LOG-HOLIDAY-MUSIC/Question-about-Songs-Of-Christmas-by-Bing-Crosby-1-1018770.html

But at that time we, Chip and I could only figure it was released sometime in the 1960's along with 2 other DECCA Compliation Albums.

But now, from Chip's post here, I believe the album was released in 1960.  I had sort-of guessed because of the hairstyle and the cothing.


Steve/OGO aslo knows I have the Fanny Farmer one being I got it from him lol.  Though we are getting of-topic, Bing also did a Christmas album on Warner Brothers Records. "I Wish You A Merry Christmas" WS 1484 in 1962





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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/14/2012 14:26)


Yes, subsequent to my post on that thread from 4 years ago I had since determined the release date for the Bing Crosby compilation album Songs Of Christmas (DL-34461) to be 1960. However, I am now in doubt as to how accurate that date is for two very valid reasons. The first reason is that the album jacket on the front and back clearly says Decca Records "A Division of MCA Inc." And since MCA did not take over Decca Records until 1962, there is an indisputable conflict there. The second reason is the close proximity of the Decca catalog number to the catalog number of another Decca compilation album that I have since determined the release date for subsequent to my post of 4 years ago: Family Christmas Favorites (DL-34487). The release date that I have determined for the latter album (DL-34487) is 1967, so therefore I now estimate that the release date for the former album (DL-34461) is probably 1966 (six years later than the first source had indicated). By the way, the third album that I had mentioned in my post from 4 years ago, Favorite Songs Of Christmas (DL-34522), was as I had previously said, 1968.






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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/15/2012 10:13)

Wow,

So much confusion over this Bing Crosby Album.  I tried going by other Album Numbers, but now your new information and being you're not quite sure, I will have to leave the date blank for now.

Maybe one of us here will find out exactly when it was released.

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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/15/2012 12:15)


Susan,

Based on the album's sequence in the Decca catalog number assignments, the date of 1966 is pretty safe bet. This, along with the fact that the La-Z-Boy promotional photos for the national advertising campaign of Bing promoting the chairs during this time were very similar to the promotional photos that were used on the front and back cover of the LP. Posted below is one of the promotional photos that La-Z-Boy used during their national advertising campaign for the year 1967, which is a year after the time I anticipate the Songs Of Christmas album was released.

As I said, the 1966 release date is a pretty safe bet, and considering all the resources that I have amassed over the years for researching Christmas music, it is very unlikely that anyone is going to come up with an indisputable source that will give us a categorically indisputable release date.





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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/16/2012 12:55)

Thanks Chip,

I love the vintage advertisement.

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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/16/2012 20:10)


In my relentless effort to never give up, I have found yet another vintage Bing Crosby La-Z-Boy ad that pretty much confirms my estimated 1966 release date for the album Songs Of Christmas. In fact, this Bing Crosby La-Z-Boy ad actually promotes the album in question. And while I cannot ascertain a specific date for the ad, the style of the recliners is clearly the same as the recliners in the 1967 ad, which I posted in my previous message.





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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/17/2012 01:25)

Chip,

You really go above and beyond the call of duty when helping us out here and I want to thank you again for all your help and also the immense information you provide.  I'm sure it's not an easy task, especially where there is limited or conflicting information and you have to ascertain by elimination to try and determine the year an album was released.

Kudos to you Chip



I don't know if this is a system glitch or not, but I couldn't get the Thumbs Up or Thank You Smileys to work by clicking on them so I had to copy and paste to put them in my post.

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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/17/2012 13:18)


My pleasure Susan, and thanks for the kind words.

As for the glitches that you are experiencing, I have found that for each browser that exists there are certain glitches that you'll experience when using Aimoo that are unique to that particular browser. For instance, when using Google Chrome you cannot re-size jpeg images after you have inserted them into your post. These glitches are not Aimoo issues, but rather browser compatibility issues. The browser that I use when posting my messages will depend on what I need to. Most of the time I use Mozilla Firefox; on lesser occasions I use Internet Explorer, and on rare occasions Google Chrome.



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RE:JC Penny Christmas LP Series
(Date Posted:04/17/2012 18:19)

Thanks Chip,

When I use Google Chrome to visit the website, the countdown clock is blank with an "X" and I can't install the plug-in being it is already built into Google Chrome.

With Internet Explorer, when trying to resize an image and get it exactly square, it's nearly impossible, but when I use Mozilla/Firefox, and I am dragging the image to resize it, I can see the number of pixels so I am able to make the image the same height and width.

Also on my desktop computer running Windows-XP, the "Wide Colon" doesn't show up but instead I see the HEX Code for it in Internet Explorer and just a square when I use Mozilla/Firefox.  I had discussed this in a previous topic.

But on my notebook computer, running Windows 7, I don't have any problems with FONTS, but it wasn't limited to Aimoo, I would have FONT problems on other websites too.

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