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(Date Posted:11/14/2010 23:36)

Well, XM (and Sirius) are to begin two Christmas channels this week: Holly XM23 (comtemporary music - of which I am not that much of a fan) and "Holiday Traditions" XM4 (of which I am a huge fan).  I submitted a list of songs from our "Hot 100" Christmas list, to Holiday Traditions, and I'm hoping some of these oldies but goodies rarities are broadcast for the new generation (and us) to enjoy.  Should be interesting to see if they've expanded their library since last year, and if they switch to stereo (so you can hear the Ray Conniff Singers each in their respective stereo channel).
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/20/2010 11:13)

Seems like they are playing a lot of different tunes this year.  i haven't heard a repeater yet.
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/20/2010 15:02)


Grinchy,

Either we are listening to two different stations or you haven't listened to the Sirius Holiday Traditions channel long enough, because I have heard plenty of repeats. But in all fairness, they all repeat, including the best of these stations, Music Choice's Sounds of the Seasons.

Nevertheless, the Sirius channel is still seriously flawed because of its virtual exclusion of the great instrumental Christmas music by Percy Faith, Mantovani, Stanley Black, Frank Chacksfield, Frank DeVol, Andre Kostelanetz, Bert Kaempfert, The Living Strings, among others. The channel is also replete with constant and intrusive interruptions for station Ids, personal greetings, military greetings, and "holiday scene moments." As I said previously in a previous post on the message board, if Music Choice's Sounds of the Seasons channel was available in the car, I'd drop Sirius faster than a jack rabbit on a date -- maybe faster. The Holiday Traditions channel is no WPAT. And while Sounds of the Seasons isn't either, it's a hell of a lot closer.

However, in the final analysis, the Yule Log remains the last great source for great classic Christmas music (both vocal and instrumental) uninterrupted and commercial-free. And I'm very proud to have augmented it with my new fourth hour that I added last year. Click here.




(Message edited by Christmas Music Guru On 11/20/2010 15:09)
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/20/2010 15:26)

They certainly took my list and hit delete, at it included plenty from the Yule Log, including the Master, Percy Faith, and instrumentals from David Rose, Bert Kaempfert, etc...and music from the late 50's and early 60's; which also seems to be lacking.  I hear more Glen Miller Band than I do anyting from the golden age of Christmas LP's and early stereo recordings.  They also didn't take my suggestion to "turn on the stereo" either. So much for them actually appearing to listen to any of their paying listeners.  :(
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/20/2010 16:32)

Hi Chip--I have only listened a few hours at work, off & on, but I do remember last year I couldn't listen more than an hour without hearing several repeats.  haven't encountered any yet, which was why I commented.  Sounds like I will be hearing some as I continue.  methinks i should stagger my listening.  Definitley a lot of glen Miller type stuf though.
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/20/2010 20:04)


Grinchy,

So far this year the repeats aren't happening within any given hour, but rather over the course of several hours and day to day. But as I said in my previous post, this is the norm for these types of stations.

My real problem with the Sirius Holiday Traditions channel is the lack of classic instrumental Christmas music and the constant barrage of intrusive interruptions for station IDs,  personal greetings, military greetings, and those "holiday scene moments".

Then today I was further perturbed by interruptions every 15 minutes by Cousin Brucie to promote his show on Channel 6. And even though the theme of his show tonight was for a good cause -- a hunger telethon -- I don't think it's right for us listeners to be beleaguered by constant station self-promotions. God darn it, Sirius Radio isn't free -- us listeners pay for it. And I think we should have the right to listen to it in peace.


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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/21/2010 10:27)

Hi Chip,

Just before I posted this, I re-read your last post and realized you basically said the same thing about paying for Sirius/XM.

What gets me, is Satellite Radio is a "Paid Subscription" for most people.  It's supposed to be commercial free Therefore the reason it is a "Paid Subscription"   People who have Satellite Radio in their cars etc., wanted this type of radio without commercial interruptions.

It's the same with Dish Network we are paying extra to get the Sirius/XM radio stations, so why do they need to interrupt the continuous music?

We're not getting what we paid for.  I would love to hear Christmas music without any interruptions at all.

A couple of our local stations just started playing all Christmas music this past Monday, but one of them overdubs at the end of the song stating what the name of the song and artist were.  They may play 2 or 3 songs in a row, but they still overdub at the end of each song.

Maybe we should start boycotting Sirius/XM or all of us email them complaining that we aren't getting what we are paying for.

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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/21/2010 22:56)


Too bad you don't get Music Choice, Susan. They play continuous non-stop music without any interruptions of any kind.

It's a shame about the Sirius channel because they play a lot of great stuff, but it's so compromised by all those interruptions, as well as a lack of the great instrumentals -- although today I did finally hear a couple: one by Jackie Gleason and one by Lester Lanin.

Yesterday, within a 20 minute period, there was a station ID, a holiday scene moment, a personal greeting from a listener, and two promo announcements from Cousin Brucie. That's a total of five interruptions in just one 20 minute period!

I mean, you have really got to be kidding.


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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/21/2010 23:20)

Went to XMradio DOT com and left them some subscriber feedback on my disappointment with the excessive blabbing between selections on XM4, the substandard audio quality and music selections.  Hopefully, others will join.

Our cable company took away "Music Choice" and gave us an inferior product called DMX (Dumb MusiX) and there is NO easy listening channel, and their "Holiday Channel" was progammed by a 6th grader with a box of CD's - no cohesive pattern or programming genre whatsoever - just play whatever you've got on hand - 2010 release, 1960 release, 2007 release, 2009 release; not worth paying for.

The only hope is that after Radio Harmonica is done on XM on December 8th - and Escape returns, some decent uninterruped instrumental Christmas music will be on the air from December 9th - December 26th.
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/21/2010 23:59)


Sorry to hear you lost Music Choice, Johnny.

Perhaps with the feedback Sirius/XM receives from us listeners, they will turn over a new leaf.


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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/22/2010 08:28)

Chip,

When we first Had Dish Network a few years back they gave us Music Choice and "Sounds of The Season's was around all year, but they only played Christmas music between Thanksgiving and Christmas.  I don't remember exactly when they would start, but I think they continued into the first week of January with Christmas music.  I miss Music Choice.

Last year while we had DirecTV, right after the holidays, they switched to Sonic and in February, we went back to Dish Network and found that they were carrying Sirius/XM and not Music Choice anymore.  Aside from our own personal collections and Internet Radio Stations that play Christmas music throughout the year,  (though most have commercial interruptions unless you pay for a subscription) that is it for being able to hear Christmas Music.  But the problem with Internet Radio is it doesn't sound as good through computer speakers unless you have a high end sound card and 5.1 to 7.1 Surround Sound speakers.

Though Dish Network is offering a few other Christmas music stations, it isn't the same as one is a Remix station.  One is Classical Music artists doing Christmas songs.  But not what most of the people here want to listen to without a lot of repeats.  Though I don't listen 24 hours a day, I've heard Mel Torme's "The Christmas Song" 3 times already this past week usually before bedtime, but once during the day when I was going through the stations.  I haven't heard Ella Fitzgerald yet, but heard a couple Glenn Miller  but again, I can't listen 24 hours a day.  It would be nice if I could lol

The good thing with Dish Network is that it only takes 2 -3 seconds after they start a new song when they show the name of the song and the artist.  DirectTV would take up to a minute and then it would only show the song title and the artist would be from the previous song and then they would change it to the correct artist.  I don't know how quickly that people with Satellite Radio in their vehicles or home see the information, but I'm glad the Dish Network does it quickly

EDITED I just called Sirius and after about 10 minutes of waiting on hold, I nicely complained that People are paying for Commercial Free Music and we aren't getting it because of the commercials for Cousin Brucie's special, the Military Greetings and Personal greetings.

The woman I spoke to had a heavy Foreign accent and the basically told me there is nothing they can do about it being these channels will be gone shortly (meaning after Christmas)

So I don't know if anyone else will have better success than I did.


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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/22/2010 16:08)


Susan,

If I recall correctly, the calls for the Sirius/XM customer service department are routed to Egypt. So that woman you got on the phone today probably couldn't give a hoot about Christmas to begin with. What's more, her response to you that "there is nothing they can do about it because these stations will be gone shortly" is a non-answer and utterly absurd. That's why it's always better to submit any complaints in writing. Nevertheless, you get an 'A' for effort.


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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/22/2010 17:22)

Thanks Chip,

This is what I hate about calling Customer Service for just about any company.  DirecTV, Dish Network, Dell, Verizon just to name a few.  99% of the time you are speaking to someone in India and they sound like "Apu" from "The Simpsons"  The will tell you their name is "Paul" or something like that, but we all know that nobody in their right mind from India would name there child "Paul"  It would probably be something like "Ahmed"

It's like that commercial for it think "Discover Card" and the person is calling customer service because of a charge on their bill and the person on the other end is a man with a heavy, maybe Russian, accent in a shack somewhere probably in the arctic and answers the phone with the phrase "Thank you for calling USA Prime Credit, my name is Peggy.  What is problem please?"

All this outsourcing to Foreign Countries is just causing more grief for American consumers.  The major corporatons do this to save money as they don't have to pay what they would if they were employing people here in the USA but they still charge you full price for their products though it doesn't cost what it would to manufacture it here.  They put profit ahead of customer satisfaction.

I can't tell you how many times I've called Dish Network and I've reached a person at their home and they end up putting me on hold saying they need to check with a Supervisor.  I know they aren't even at an office at Dish Network as several times that I've called, I've heard children talking in the background playing video games.  I've even heard a dog barking on a few occasions.

All they are doing by putting you on hold is so they can look up your information on the computer and try to find an answer for you.

Oh well, at least I tried.
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/24/2010 11:45)

Has anyone tried Pandora?  According to what I read somewhere, Pandora is likely to be a major threat to Sirius/XM.  Mercedes-Benz recently announced it has made an application available on its cars.  Everything usually starts out in luxury brands, then works it way to more popularly priced vehicles.

BTW, I hadn't noticed the music isn't in stereo on Holiday Traditions.  They do play a lot of music from the 40s, which was never re-processed in stereo.  I'm listening online right now.  They're playing Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer by Diana Ross & The Supremes and it's got plenty of separation.  That was likely recorded in the 60s when everyone was recording in stereo.

Holiday Traditions has its flaws, but with precious few exceptions (other than White Christmas by Bing Crosby and Blue Christmas by Elvis Presley) none of what they're playing is going to be found on FM.  I'd be open to an alternative to Sirius/XM, but no way will I turn on a local FM station.  The days of WPAT and Joe McCoy's WCBS-FM are history!

I read last year on a radio board that all-Christmas stations will play White Christmas by Bing Crosby but won't say it on the air!  Bad for their demos!

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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/24/2010 14:41)

Log-Fan,

I have Pandora built in to my Blu-Ray player along with Netflix and I signed up for a free account with Pandora online so I can either listen online or through my Blu-Ray player but they only give free users 40 hours a month.  Regardless if you listen online or through the Blu-Ray player, it's still only 40 hours.  Of course, the Blu-Ray player has to have an Ethernet connection in order to stream it on the Blu-Ray player.

They have a lot of Christmas music, and one of the first ones that came up when I searched "Christmas" was Percy Faith's album "Christmas Is..." but they don't play the whole album and then play other similar artists.  I believe that they can't play the complete album because of licensing fees or something. Or, they can't play consecutive songs from the same album in sequence.  I read it once, but don't remember exactly.  It is nice though becuase you can choose other genre and artists.

So far, what I've listened too was great.  If you don't like a particular song, you can skip it.
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/24/2010 17:57)

Christmas Always,

Pandora's pricing structure sounds much like live365.  If you want to listen to live365 commercial-free, you pay, otherwise you get commercials.

When Internet radio becomes more widely available in cars, Sirius/XM will be faced with major competition.
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/27/2010 01:04)

On Thanksgiving Day, Music Choice began running Christmas music by contemporary artists such as Mariah Carey, B.B. King, Babyface, Lovemongers, Chicago and others on their Soft Rock channel. The more traditional Christmas music by classic artists like Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Percy Faith, The New Christy Minstrels, Ray Conniff, Bert Kaempfert, Al Hirt, Gene Autry, Tony Bennett, Robert Goulet, Doris Day, Peggy Lee, Pat Boone, Paul Anka, Mel Torme, Eddy Arnold, Jimmy Durante, Spike Jones, The Chipmunks, Harry Simeone Chorale, Johnny Mathis, Shirley Temple, Perry Como, Bing Crosby, David Rose and others are on the Sounds of the Seasons channel. For Verizon FiOS TV viewers, you can find the Soft Rock channel on 1818 while you can find the Sounds of the Seasons channel on 1832. 
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RE:Christmas Music coming to XM / Sirius Radio this week
(Date Posted:11/27/2010 17:58)

A year from now, Sirius XM 2.0 will debut. My guess is that is will be some sort of a Pandora deal.
We'll have to wait and see!
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