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(Date Posted:05/03/2011 19:50)


For a little Christmas this month of May, Turner Classic Movies will be showing the 1959 Mexican movie, Santa Claus. It will air on Friday, May 6 at 2am (EDT) as the featured film in its Friday night TCM Underground series. If you are not familiar with this cult classic, everything you need to know about it can be learned on the TCM website, Click Here.

For me, let me just say that while this film had a rather weak and bizarre screenplay, I have to say that José Elías Moreno made an excellent and very convincing Santa Claus. In addition to that, the other thing that stands out about this movie are a couple of very poignant scenes between Santa and some of the children. Otherwise, it is quite an unusual film to say the least, but definitely well worth seeing -- if only for a little Christmas in May, as well as seeing José Elías Moreno's fine portrayal as Santa Claus.

Posted below are a couple of stills from the movie showing actor José Elías Moreno as Santa:


  


UPDATE:

Unfortunately, for some unknown reason, TCM has made a last minute programming change to their schedule and pulled the previously scheduled airing of 1959's Santa Claus and replaced it with 1972's Night of the Lepus. TCM is not known for making these types of last minute changes to their schedule, so I can only surmise that there must have been a technical problem with the film which led to its sudden cancellation. TCM had originally scheduled Night of the Lepus for Friday night, June 3 at 3:45am, so it's entirely possible that they simply made a programming switch for the two movies and that Santa Claus will now air in that June timeslot. As soon as I have any updated information for the airing of Santa Claus, I will post it here on this thread.






*[Edited 05/06/11 to add update regarding cancellation of the movie]
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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/04/2011 22:55)


I managed to find on YouTube a clip with one of those poignant scenes that I had alluded to in my previous post between Santa and one of the children from the 1959 movie, Santa Claus.

It's about a sad little boy from an affluent family who has everything he could possibly want and yet feels lonely and unwanted by his fashionable and jet-setting parents. When Santa arrives on Christmas Eve night to deliver his goodies, he discovers the child alone, forgotten and asleep on a chair in the living room by the fire. After dispersing his gifts for the boy around the tree, and knowing full well that they will bring him little in the way of comfort, he bestows upon the child the rare gift of letting him see him in the flesh. The boy upon seeing Santa before his eyes is filled with joy, and after Santa consoles and assures him that he is indeed truly loved not only by himself but by his parents as well, he then goes to the restaurant where his parents are dining and, disguised as a waiter, provides them a magic 'cocktail of remembrance' that helps the couple see the error of their ways.

This scene beautifully encapsulates the very meaning and spirit of what Christmas, Santa and the Yuletide Spirit are all about: the power of a simple and pure love vs. the power of wealth and the possession of material things. And it's all poignantly done in a very sweet and unpretentious way -- much in the same way as in the scene from A Charlie Brown Christmas where Linus says to Charlie Brown when trying to explain the meaning of the holiday, "That's what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown."

To jump to where the scene begins, fast forward to the 2:07 minute mark:





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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/06/2011 08:51)

Chip,

I wanted to wait until this morning because I wanted to make sure first.

When I saw that TCM was going to broadcast this movie. I went to our guide for Friday and went to 2:00 am but the movie "Fiesta" with Esther Williams and Ricardo Montalban was listed.  So I called Dish Network and they had me reset the receiver and several other things and the guide was still showing "Fiesta"  When I searched for "Santa Claus" it did come up but was for Saturday, May 7, 2011 at 2:00 am.

I tried emailing TCM but didn't get a response.

Then I tried calling Tribune Media Services as they are who provide the Program Guide for Dish Network and they checked and they showed Friday, May 6, 2011 at 2:00 am.

So to be on the safe side, I manually went in and chose the channel I wanted and set the time a couple minutes before 2:00 am and let it go until 4:02 am and when I got up this morning and checked the recording, it indeed was the movie "Fiesta" with Esther Williams and Ricardo Montalban.

I tried and Internet search for phone numbers to contact TCM and found an 800 # but it was actually Customer Service for if you bought Movies and other Merchandise from them, but they gave me a number for TCM Programming and I wasn't actually able to speak to anyone but was only able to leave a message under their General Comments/Suggestion mailbox.

I had told several friends about this movie and being it wasn't on, now I have to apologize to them.  I even included the link that you included to TCM Web Site which stated that it would be on at 2:00 am on Friday, May 6, 2011.

I don't know if you have anyone in your long list of contacts that maybe you could let them know about the misinformation.  Now the link shows "Night of the Lepus"  I copy and pasted the first paragraph and the picture somehow copied too.

Night of the Lepus
Friday May, 6 2011 at 02:00 AM
Friday June, 3 2011 at 03:45 AM

Rancher Cole Hillman (Rory Calhoun) is overrun by pesky rabbits, but the man has enough ecological awareness not to indiscriminately spray poison. Looking for a more Nature-friendly alternative to his dilemma, he turns to scientists Roy and Gerry Bennett (Stuart Whitman and Janet Leigh). Specialists in conceiving alternative approaches to pest control, the couple bring their expertise to bear on the rabbit question. What if they could interfere with the rabbits' breeding, either to halt it altogether or to produce birth defects that kill off the next generation?

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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/06/2011 16:02)


Susan,

First: Since TCM was showing this movie as part of its Friday late-night TCM Underground series, they promoted it as being shown on Friday night, May 6 at 2am; but technically, it was really being shown on Saturday morning, May 7 at 2am.

Second: Yes, alas, its airing for tonight has indeed been cancelled at the last minute by TCM. Please see the update note at the bottom of my first post on this thread.


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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/07/2011 08:51)

Hi Chip,

Thanks,

I did set my DVR to record the movie at 2:00 am this morning, but when we got up, it wasn't there and the timer was still set when I went to bed.

I have nothing but trouble with Dish Network since we switched to them a year ago this past February.  I would set our timer to DVR something that was initially on at 6:00 PM Monday and then it would repeat at 2:00 am Tuesday and I would choose the 2:00 time instead and "Protect" the event and then when we would get up the next day, the timer would be changed on it's own to record the 6:00 PM Monday one.  When I would call Dish Network, they would have me unplug the receiver, and do all kinds of tests and wait a week and if it happened again I was to give them a call and their only response was to send me a replacement receiver.  We have had 7 receivers since we switched to them and still have the same problems.

I call them and they tell me it is an isolated event, so they have to forward it on to Advanced Technical Support.

Though this isn't Christmas.  We would set our DVR to record The Young and The Restless which is on our CBS affiliate at 12:30 M - F and in the event we had to go to a Dr's appointment or something we wouldn't miss it.  We would even go ahead into the next week as far as the guide would let us.  But what would happen is when we got up the following Monday, all the timers from the program would be deleted and we would have to go in and reset them.

Nobody at Dish Network could tell us why and they would send a replacement receiver.   We finally figured out that  the description for the folowing week just says "Drama revolves around three families in Genoa City.   But what happens is Sunday night the guide updates and changes the description for the program to what is actually going to be happening.  So the receiver deletes the timer.   So if we were going to go on vacation or something we couldn't program it to record it if we were gone more than a week.   We could choose "Record All" but then it would also record the episode that repeats later on SoapNet so we would have duplicate episodes and that is just ridiculous and takes up DVR disc space.

If anyone else is a Dish Network customer and they have had problems with timers being deleted or changed, Please, Please call them and let them know because as far as they are concerned, this is an isolated event and they will probably want to send me a replacement receiver and there are things that I still have saved on the DVR that I want to watch again and maybe even copy to the computer to burn a DVD of and if they send a replacement receiver I will lose all the saved stuff and I don't want to pay $45.00 so I could activate the USB port so that I could hook up an external USB hard drive and copy them over to that or even use the external drive for recording to increase the capacity.  Thank you

Chip, I don't know why though TCM still didn't record, even though it wouldn't have been "Santa Claus" because it isn't supposed to update the program guide until 5:30 in the morning so it still showed "Santa Claus" and even though it wasn't "Santa Claus" that it DVR's it still should've recorded the channel because they don't get the updates until then.

I have heard that this movie supposedly has been released on DVD in it's original format.  But not sure what version would be the original.  It has been included in some of those Christmas Classics DVD sets.  Where they have episodes of Petticoat Junction, The Beverly Hillbillies, The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet,  Meet Corliss Archer, but it isn't on the set I have.

From what I have heard, I guess the original format was too racial or stereotypical or something so they edited parts of it out.  But I don't know being I have never seen the movie.  Also I have heard that there is one version that is in pretty good video quality, but another that is the same video quality as "Santa Claus vs The Martians"

Thanks again Chip,  That explains why it didn't DVR.  Again though I never was actually to speak to a person at TCM I was only able to leave a message under their General Comments and Suggestions Voice mail.
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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/11/2011 22:58)

Some of us best know Santa Claus from its appearance in the cult classic TV series Mystery Science Theater 3000. The MSTed version of the film is actually available on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOH-SS89Y9o


Of course, that show had earlier tackled the infamous Santa Claus Conquers the Martians. Watch it here, if you dare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzw0dFx8HSA




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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/12/2011 04:35)


FYI:

For a little Christmas in June, Turner Classic Movies is scheduled to show Santa Claus Conquers The Martians on Friday night, June 17 at 4am (EDT) as part of its Friday late-night TCM Underground series. By the way, that broadcast time technically translates to Saturday morning, June 18 at 4am (EDT). Hopefully, it won't suffer the same cancellation fate as last week's scheduled airing of Santa Claus.


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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/12/2011 07:57)

There was a copy of "Santa Claus" and supposedly unedited on YouTube, but it has since been pulled due to Copyright Infringement.  I don't know exactly what has been edited out, but I guess it was/considered to be too controversial to show on TV.

I ordered a copy of this movie from Edward R. Hamilton Bookseller Company
Then if you click on "Search" and type in Santa Claus it will bring up about 5 or 6 results and there is a DVD "Santa Claus Classics: Santa Claus Conquers The Martians/Santa Claus/Santa & the Three Bears and Much, Much More!"

It''s 221 minutes running time and someone told me that Santa Claus is in it's unedited form so I will have to wait and see.  It is only $2.95 and $3.50 for shipping.

When I receive this DVD  will have at least 4 copies of "Santa Claus Conquers The Martians"  I just wish they listed everything on the DVD.
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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/12/2011 19:40)


Susan,

There is another more elaborate version of the
Santa Claus Classics
DVD available for purchase.

It is sold by
Vintage Playhouse, and like the DVD that you just purchased from the Edward R. Hamilton company website, this DVD also includes the unedited version of 1959's Santa Claus, as well as 1964's Santa Claus Conquers The Martians and 1970's Santa and The Three Bears. This DVD from Vintage Playhouse is a total of 243 minutes long (22 minutes longer than the version being sold on the Edward R. Hamilton company website), and it includes a total of 17 Christmas features. Here is the complete list of the titles on the disc:




Santa Claus (1959)

Joe Santa Claus (1951)

Santa Claus Conquers The Martians (1964)

Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer (1948)
The Snow Queen (1995)
Santa and The Three Bears (1970)
The Little Christmas Burro (aka The Little Brown Burro) (1978)
Christmas Comes But Once A Year (1936)
The Shanty Where Santy Claus Lives (1933)
Snow Foolin’ (1949)
Somewhere In Dreamland (1936)
Hector's Hectic Life (1948)
Jack Frost (1934)
Christmas Night
Santa's Surprise (1947)
The Alpha-Bots Christmas (2005)
The Christmas Visitor (1959)



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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:05/13/2011 08:31)

Thanks Chip,

I really don't know what else is on the DVD I ordered from Edward. R Hamilton. because it just shows the 3 titles.  I'm sure I already have whatever else is on the DVD as a lot of Christmas VHS Tapes that had 3 or 4 Christmas Shorts on them.  It's hard to tell though it the one I bought will indeed have the unedited version of "Santa Claus" because the one you sent the link to is considerably longer and from what I've heard there is maybe 1 - 2 inches that would be edited out of the "Santa Claus" movie.

Hopefully I will have it next week sometime at they only payment method was check or money order and I'm sure they will wait for my check to clear before they ship the DVD.

Thanks again.  I may end up buying to one you you sent the link for too, but will wait a bit.
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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/06/2011 01:32)

Hmm, a discussion about Rene Cardona's SANTA CLAUS? Well, then, here's something else to add to it. VCI Entertainment will be releasing the first ever official DVD and blu-ray of SC in November. Therewill actually be three versions available, but essentially what you get is two versions of the movie (original Mexican and imported US version by K. Gordon Murray), sourced from the original negative and transferred in HD. There will also be extras to go along with the feature, made by Daniel Griffith (KGM historian). Should be an interesting holiday season! Now all we need is SCCTM in HD!
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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/28/2011 13:52)

Click on one of the following links to pre-order Santa Claus (1959) from Amazon:

Santa Claus Blu-ray

Santa Claus DVD (English)

Santa Claus DVD (Spanish)

The release date is November 15, 2011.

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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/28/2011 16:29)


Perry,

Thanks for posting those links for the members of the board. 


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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/28/2011 20:43)

Perry,

Thanks for the links too, but for some reason, the Spanish one is only 94 minutes long, but the English Blu-Ray and DVD are 179 minutes.  But I understand it has extra features and supposed to include the Spanish version.

I have the English Version that I explained that I was going to purchase in an earlier post and it is 94 minutes long, and from what I've read about this movie, there was only a few minutes deleted from the original.  Something with part of the Devil/"Pitch" scene was too controversial so they deleted it for the English version.   It was originally 97 minutes when it was released in 1959.

So, I'm wondering if the Blu-Ray or English DVD doesn't actually have the cut/deleted scenes from the original Mexican release?

It was supposedly on YouTube in it's entire 97 minutes earlier this year, but got pulled for Copyright reasons, I guess. I didn't get to see it before it got pulled.
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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/28/2011 21:03)

Does anyone know if there's a DVD of the Spanish version with English subtitles?


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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/28/2011 21:08)

Chip,

You're welcome!


Susan,

The following link will download a pdf file that is an advertisement from VCI on Santa Claus (as well as a few other Christmas DVDs.)

http://www.vcientertainment.com/new_...Nov_1_2011.pdf

To save you some time, it looks like the Blu-ray and English DVD both contain the Spanish and English versions of the film.  The Spanish version is 94 minutes and the English version is 85 minutes.  So apparently neither version is 97 minutes.  I am completely unaware as to why the English version is 9 minutes shorter than the Spanish version, but there you have it.  Nothing on the bonus features about deleted scenes either.

Further details of interest:

2.35:1 • 16x9 Anamorphic • Dolby Digital 2.0 & 5.1 enhanced • mastered / restored from the original negative

You can get the rest of the details from the pdf flyer.

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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/28/2011 21:13)

Will,

The flyer states that the English & Spanish version ($14.99) and the Blu-ray version ($19.99) has English subtitles.  Subtitles are not listed on the Spanish only version.  Your best bet seems to be the English & Spanish Collector's Edition for $14.99.

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Chip, I think that I just screwed up with a double post.  I am so sorry!


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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/28/2011 21:33)

Thanks for that info, Perry!

(But now you have to face "The Wrath of Chip")  

 


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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/29/2011 01:40)


Perry! Tisk, tisk.

No problem buddy, even Santa makes an occasional error.


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RE:A little Christmas in May on Turner Classic Movies
(Date Posted:09/29/2011 07:47)

Thanks for the update Perry,

I guess I will stay with the 94 minute version I already have and hope that one day it will be released in it's entire 97 minutes.

I don't think it changes the storyline though other than what was deleted was considered too controvercial.  I can't recollect, for sure, but I think part that was deleted had to do with the children from around the world and it showed African children, but there is a scene with them dancing so I can't say for sure that was the reason. 

But in discussing this movie in another group, there was mention of the way they depicted the children from Africa dancing around in "Native" attire with bones in their hair and stuff, so I guess there was some racial descrimination back then.  I think this scene may have been cut short from the discussions I've been in about this movie.  All the other children of the world were fully clothed.

But I guess unless the 97 minute version is made available, we will never know.
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