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CluelessInSeattle
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(Date Posted:12/25/2011 12:19)


Do any of you burn CD-Rs of you favorite Chrismas CDs?

I've got some out-of-print CDs that would cost me an arm-and-leg to replace, so I've been trying to burn back-up copies of them using the "Copy" option in Nero 7.

But my CD-R copies end up with popping sounds that sound exactly like the sounds we all know so well from the days of vinyl when our favorite Christmas LP got a big fat scratch in it.

(If any of you would like to hear a sample of these pops and ticks I can try to remember how to make an MP3 and upload it to a file sharing site).

In the meantime, I'd be grateful for troubleshooting suggestions.   I really need to back up these rare CDs and then only play the CD-Rs from now on, and keep the originals in a safe, secure place.
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RE:How to eliminate *pops* in CD-Rs?
(Date Posted:12/25/2011 14:16)

Will,

There are a variety of "Audio Cleaning" software out there and they all have their good points and bad points.  Though I don't care for a real scratchy album, I don't mind a few light clicks, pips or pop as long as it doesn't overpower the music and it doesn't skip.

I have always preferred Vinyl over CD's just because of the sound quality from Analog recordings that CD's aren't capable of reproducing.  I actually like hearing the little clicks as it takes me back to a time when music was much different than it is today, an era that can't be replicated.

But basically the songs you would want to eliminate the pops on, you would have to use one of the many softwares that are available to edit the pops out of the track, then save it as a seperate file and then when you have done that with all the songs that needed cleaning, you could then burn them to CD-R's.

I can give you a few names to look for, but can't say which ones work better than the other.

Adobe Audition
MAGIX - Audio Cleaning Lab
iZotope RX
Audacity (usually comes free with USB Turntables)

Again, they all have their good points and bad points.  You might get better results on one song with any one of these that I've mentioned, but on another song, get totally different results.  It's a matter of tweaking the setting just right and experimenting before your final save of the file.
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RE:How to eliminate *pops* in CD-Rs?
(Date Posted:12/25/2011 20:16)

I think Will is trying to address the issue of why he is getting clicks and pops in the copies he is making of his "master" CD's when the masters do not have clicks and pops; at least I think that is the question. I for one cannot think of a single reason for that. I use a Macintosh with a completely different set of audio tools for duplicating CD's, etc. so I'm not comparing apples to apples but I have never had any such issue with copying my "masters" to create the copies that we play day-to-day. I'll see what I can find out about this problem...
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RE:How to eliminate *pops* in CD-Rs?
(Date Posted:12/25/2011 22:54)

portroad,

Now that I re-read Will's original post, maybe I did misunderstand him.  But then I guess a suggestion would be to use Windows Media Player and rip the CD's to a folder and then play each song to see if they have the pops in them and if they do, then it's a problem with the transfer.

But if he rips them and then plays each song from the folder they are ripped in and they sound fine, he should be able to burn them to a CD-R and see if the problem persists.  It could also be a Nero Problem.  That is why If I want to do a CD copy for someone, I will rip it to a specific folder as Mp3's and then play them individually and if they are OK, I will use Windows Media Player to burn them to a CD-R and there isn't a problem with them.

Thank you for pointing out my misinterpetation of what Will was trying to do.  I have used all the version of Nero up to 10 and have had problems with it and it often isn't compatible with Windows-XP and when I install it, I get a message that it might not be 100% compatible with it.

So, again, Will, I would try playing the CD with Windows Media Player, then rip it to a specific folder, then insert a Blank CD-R after playing the songs you ripped and it they don't have any pops, then the problem is most likely Nero.

I apologize for misinterpreting your question.
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RE:How to eliminate *pops* in CD-Rs?
(Date Posted:12/25/2011 23:07)

That's a good suggestion Susan; take things a step at a time to identify what is introducing the unwanted noise. If the rip is bad then it is Nero, try using iTunes for Windows. If the WAV, WMA, or MP3 files are good after ripping then it is in the burning stage where the noise is introduced and maybe burning at a slower speed will help. Strange problem to say the least.
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RE:How to eliminate *pops* in CD-Rs?
(Date Posted:12/27/2011 12:22)

Thanks, guys!

I'll spare you the details, but I managed to isolate the problem, and the culprit appears to be the background apps that run with Nero.

So I switched to ImgBurn and have been turning out what sound to my aging  eas like flawless copies of my precious original CDs.

So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my luck will hold out.  Another back-up copy just popped out of the CD drive and I'm going to audition it as soon as I finish typing this.

Wish me luck!
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RE:How to eliminate *pops* in CD-Rs?
(Date Posted:12/27/2011 14:20)

You're welcome Will,

Glad you figured it out that it seems to be Nero as the culprit.  I made a CD-R for someone for Christmas and forgot and used Nero and she told me there were a couple skips in it.  I should've done what I normally do and burned it with Windows Media Player.

I basically use Nero to check if some mixed up discs I have that are a generic brand to see if they have been written to or if they are CD-RW's.  I sometimes would copy stuff to a CR-RW temporarilly and then erase them, but sometimes I would forget and then just stick them back onto a spindle of discs.

Nero seems to be the only program that can identify if it is a CD-R or a CD-RW.  I'm sure there are other programs out there that would do the same thing, but since Nero came installed with my computer and I have the disc, if I have to do a reformat, I can just reinstall Nero so I can check my discs.

I will keep my fingers crossed for you that your new program will continue to work.
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RE:How to eliminate *pops* in CD-Rs?
(Date Posted:12/28/2011 12:55)

So far, so good!
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RE:How to eliminate *pops* in CD-Rs?
(Date Posted:12/28/2011 23:34)

Will,

You made a very good choice with ImgBurn.  It is a great program.  It has become my "go to" program for all things involving CD burning.  Nice to know that it is a FREE program too!  I have yet to have a problem with a CD that was related to that program.  It is available here if anyone else is interested.

Best of luck in your continued success with the backup copies.

-=Perry
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