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Title: Anyone know about S.I.F.T. tractors ?
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(Date Posted:12/07/2008 23:16:56)
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The little club I am involved with has just had a S.I.F.T. tractor made in France probibaly in the 50s sometime donated and I was wondering if anyone knows a bit of history of the company, such as time frames numbers made models they built ect. Interesting 4 cyl Diesel about 40 HP by the look of it low lights in the front. Aparently not well thought of when it was being used but surviving in fairly good nick and should clean up for display well.
I did a bit of googling but came up with very little, if someone knows of a website that could help I would be very interested !

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Graham
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RE:Anyone know about S.I.F.T. tractors ?
(Date Posted:13/07/2008 01:39:44)

Graham,
The limited info I have on S.I.F.T tractors is as follows.

Manufactured by Societe Instulation Force Tractor Co in France by a major manufacturer. I know not what else they made. 

Model TD4 was aparently first intoduced in 1942,( this date seems strange as France was still heavily involved in WW11), was powered by a 4 cylinder slow reving four stroke diesel of 42hp They used low pressure injectors, five bearing crank, 4-3/16" bore, 6-5/16" stroke, 33 drawbar hp.  12 volt lighting system with 24 volt starting.  Wieght with water filled tyres,approx 3 tons.

The main Australian distributor was Emptor Pty Ltd in Melbourne.

I have a copy of a 1951 ad from December Power Farming in Aust & NZ.but I won't even attempt to post it as I have enough trouble just reading and replting. If you send me your e-mail address I will attempt to send you a copy.
There is one one display at the Westbury Tractor Museum in believe it or not, Westbury, in Tassie.
Hope this little bit helps.

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RE:Anyone know about S.I.F.T. tractors ?
(Date Posted:13/07/2008 04:31:34)


Thanks for that Steve,
There are a few of them over here in WA, I think they may have been sold by "Westfarmers" localy but not 100% shure. There is a couple in museums and I know there are a few in private ownership, but there isn't very much information known about them at all. The one thing every one seems to know is they weren't very suited to Australia and were generaly disliked by their owners, I recon that in itself makes them interesting !
 This one was traded on a Chamberlain most likely in the 60s and as they couldn't find a buyer for it the dealer used it on his own small farm and his son has very genourously just donated it and some other things to our little vintage club.
I would be interested in that ad you have, I checked my profile, which should have had my contact details in it but allas they have gone astray.

E'Mail is -  veitch.partners@bigpond.com

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Graham
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RE:Anyone know about S.I.F.T. tractors ?
(Date Posted:14/07/2008 02:00:37)

For those who don't know what a Sift TD4 tractor looks like -



I can remember seeing these tractors when new. There were a few sold around the Wimmera area. They did not have a particularly good reputation, as has been said.
Modified tractors were advertised in 1957 with tougher rear axles (they used to break), automatic oliing for the valve rocker gear (imagine that!), new governor control arm, new design drawbar, brass radiator tanks.
Not a problem here, but it is said that on steep hills they had fuel starvation when the tank went down to half way.
According to the brochures, horse powers at 1200rpm were 50 engine, 42 belt and 37 drawbar. Engine bore and stroke was 110 x 160mm. The instruction book shows Bosch high pressure injection. Earlier ones may have been low pressure.
As Graham found, history is pretty well non existant.
Brochure and instruction book photocopies available. Send a private message for details.

Eric

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RE:Anyone know about S.I.F.T. tractors ?
(Date Posted:14/07/2008 04:20:23)


Thanks Eric, that is definatly the beast !!   Pretty blue in colour !
This one has high presure injection as you say, it looks like the same pump used on 50s Fiats, certainly related if not exactly the same.
The people who had contact with this and another that used to work in the district always compare it very unfavourably with Hanomags of the same vintage that have a very good reputation. I think that is probibaly unfair to the SIFT as the Hanomag is much more robust and I believe a much more expensive when new machine.

One of our members got this thing running 20 + years ago for a large district historic display and it was running quite well then, but after the show it went back to its owners who stored it well, (under cover) but had no use for it so I don't think it's been started since. Some of the fellows are fidling with it now, I recon it will be running again in under a fortnight.

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RE:Anyone know about S.I.F.T. tractors ?
(Date Posted:16/07/2008 05:20:30)

Hey there Graham and All,

Hedley Shaw and his son Glenn have the Westbury Tractor Museum in northern Tassie. Glenn also writes a column on vintge tractors in the weekly farmers' newspaper, Tasmanian Country.

It looks like Forum users have given you a fair bit of info, but the Shaws would be a good source of information if you needed more. Friendly, helpful people too. If you want more contact details, email me direct and I can give them to you.

Good luck with it
Teddee

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RE:Anyone know about S.I.F.T. tractors ?
(Date Posted:04/08/2008 02:24:09)

A bit more Sift. I know that the brand is strictly S.I.F.T., but it must be ok to write Sift; just look at this ad.

Eric



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