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(Date Posted:03/02/2008 4:10 AM)
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The sad truth is ......the spark in the petrol......:




*) not all is black or white.....


*) Scott has groomed young men to be his sexual playmates .... Nobody really knows how many .... One thing is certain that he approached almost every man, sooner or later, to check out if he can get these to comply with his unlimited hunger for sex and divers sex partners..... And he has used certain of his "entrusted" to help him with it...


*) Michy and his henchmen have / have tried to destroy upright Christian women and men to in favior of a cover up ..... And exposed themselves as people who give themselves the appearance of Christians but are worse than the Pharisees - these are the ones who have destroyed the chance to change CAI into a Christian assembly and have made it a dungeon for devils with their lies and deceit. May God have mercy on their wretched souls...Wolves in sheep's clothings = classified by God himself in His Word...


*) some were victims - some prostituted themselves to gain the leadership's favour - some enjoyed the bi-sexual life within the CAI with each other and knowingly supported Scott, portraying himself as an Apostle of God.....keeping the dirty truth hidden from the majority of the members for obvious reasons.


*) some of the victims just were victims (may God heal them ..) others became lovers and some became bi-sexual - some of these didn't only have sex with Scott, but also with each other - enjoying the corruption and the lust.....living a double life. Approaching other men for sexual faviors themselves.... Spreading the "disease" and growing the corruption!


*) there is one group within the CAI that can without exception 100% be classified as "victims" the poor women/wives of all people involved in these gay activities - these are the quiet few who deserve to cry out: "I'm a victim!" as well as the % of real victims of Scott's grooming and abuse - but some who cry: "I'm a victim - and should cry: "I'm a prostitute and victimiser!" Almost everybody screams "I'm a victim!" and in most of the cases it is true, but there are some who call themselves victims and have (witnesses are there) approached other man for sex in a way that it appears very doubtful that they didn't enjoy gay-activities.....


*) almost all of these sexually involved (there are quite a few exceptions) have covered this dark "state within a state" part of the CAI up - this explains also why the first 3 were willing to "Piss Off to Perth" and why the 3 as well as the leadership agreed to cover up the whole thing and to make sure nobody sees the 11 page letter or knows its contents.....but God saw this cover up and destroyed this "unity" using the situation to expose the evil that almost "disappeared with the RSL club agreement / cover up" ....... it was easier to go to Perth and keep silence for both sides than to face the consequences of the personal corruption.....why would any of the 2 sides "uncover all of this" - exposing themselves at the same time......see God's hand!


*) There was also a group (all the woman and 90% of the men) who genuinely judged themselves - weren't evolved in the dirt - even unawares of it! And tried to live a good Christian life to gain God's favour - sad truth is that these group was actually on top of it Tyrannised by people who (with few exceptions) knew about Scott's double life and (to a big part) took active part in it. My heart bleeds for them and I haven't stopped crying inside my heart for these people who I would all call "The ABUSED MAJORITY!"


A word of warning the group of people who don't start their new life building it on Truth (Jesus the Rock).....you are building your new life on sand and it will fall apart in the future again - don't go then and blame anybody but yourself - God gave you a chance to get clean and live a new life.....get even, please! For your own and your family sake! David cried out: " I have sinned before God and the People....."! Hint Hint


To all the women: I feel heart broken knowing how much guilt / condemnation has been put on you --- pushing you in the thinking that you are 2nd class Christians (men were the "chosen ones") - I as well as all the men in CAI are guilty of it - Sorry for this - this is not what God says about you! ..... Jesus was surrounded by women....when did he make a chauvinistic statement? They got nothing but love from him....even the ones that weren't good enough for the human society - He loved them - and still does! How much more does Jesus love you women who gave your lives up for him and went through the CAI hell to please HIM - even though it wasn't what he expected of you - he saw/sees your heart and loves you for it. Become aware who you are in Christ - GOD's Children .....!

Don't ask: who / when / where - the people who need to know ARE aware of the Truth in these lines!



THE  VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS - not trying to please men but God....

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 4:19 AM)




*) missing point: certain people claim: "I never knew about all these victims etc etc!" and the truth is that they were dealing with some of the victims over the years and now have "lost memory of it - just like Scott!" - it is easier this way then to say: "I was aware of it but for selfish reasons never stood up against it!"


VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS - saddened by these events and the whole disgrace connected with it!
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 6:57 AM)

"Let him/her who has ears hear........!!!!


there is "a spirit of the destruction of the memory" amongst some.....
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:04/02/2008 10:46 AM)

A word of warning the group of people who don't start their new life building it on Truth (Jesus the Rock).....you are building your new life on sand and it will fall apart in the future again - don't go then and blame anybody but yourself - God gave you a chance to get clean and live a new life.....get even, please! For your own and your family sake! David cried out: " I have sinned before God and the People....."! Hint Hint


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Truth ..... Jesus is not "whole truth". Jesus does not have the  monopoly on Truth.   That's why the enlightment happened!

Do start again- review Christianity/belief in God again. Review all the other  possibilities.  It'll take time so don't worry about  hell fire and  such. Get/don't get drunk if you have to, have gay-sex if you have to (there's probably a good few repressed gay people in the cult) , have (normal) sex if you have to (I am certain there's many repressed  straight people in the church)!!! (make up your own mind). You'll probably  make a few wrong turns, but we've all made a  horribly nasty one when we joined the CAI.  Sin....  does it really exist - does God exist?         Who is  Jesus... what did he actually preach if he existed (is  Christianity today representative of Christianity of Jesus and the ealry  church...?).

Go on holiday and  have some fun, without idiots telling you what to do.
Get help if you need from a  trained pychologist or similar.
Speak to your  family again...

From a non-believer, who's coping alright (but certainly not perfect) without having to prostrate themselves to some fictitious  diety/religion.

Life is precious, make what you can from it.  Make it your own.
/anon1
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:04/02/2008 12:58 PM)

well here we go again...

Before I'd trust a psychologist I'd rather chop off my right hand.

Apart from that I go on holiday, have some fun and doesn't let any idiot tell me what to do.

cheers,

and thanks for the fish.

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:04/02/2008 5:41 PM)





   Anon1 or may I call you "Anal 1" based on what comes out of you......Do yourself and others a favior and disappear on some lonely island smoke some dope and eat raw fish. In this way you can stay in mental boundries that do not scare the life out of you....and keep the minds of others clean of your philosophical bull...

Go and see somebody who can help you with your complex mental / phsycological problem!

Who is really interested in all the strange non-sense that you contribute to this site - GO and Grow up!


Somebody who's really sick of your twisted puffed up mind! 
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 1:28 AM)

Remember that it was not you who choose CAI, it was CAI who chosen you. As a comment to some lines in this thread. Cults function that way. And where was Jesus for me when I was in the cult? It´s so easy to talk about Jesus now and then. But if Jesus still lives today what does he do? Then he does nothing. You better have to trust real descent and reliable people then. And if Jesus really exists, He has left CAI a long time ago. 

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 1:47 AM)



where was Jesus ?

ok - I hear wh at you say!    B U T    (I hope you consider the following!)


JESUS = the BIBLE = The Word of God


Let's be blant, if you would have studied the Bible and taken it literally - and made a stand for it - then you wouldn't have gone down this stupid "stay in CAI road" and the same counts for all of us! Scott has constantly gone against scriptures - and we chose to ignore it!

- no mediator between God and men
- let the leaders be servants
- where do you see pitversie house etc in the new testament
- where do you see an Old Testament King in the New Testament - as Scott claimed himself to be
- Menues/fixed offerings/role of the women/sucking up to the British Royals/Racism/ etc etc etc

Let us be honest enough and blame our stupitiy and not God for the fact that we were led as sheep astray and didn't really approach it in the right way: "What does the Bible say about this? / Where is that in the Bible / What would Jesus have done ????"  etc etc etc

It's easy to blame others ..... even God & Jesus.....but God himself said that we should check everything and keep the good things....let's face it: I / you / we all were to naive and disobedient to the Word to do the right thing! George D. left CAI over 13 years ago because of 90% of what we know now.....well he obviously asked more questions (to God not Uncle Sloppy)


I'm not signing with my name as some lowlives attack me for personal reasons and not for the contents of my messages!
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 1:50 AM)

Fuck CAI, fuck all idiotic cults! But even normal Christianity hasn´t done anything for me in my life anyway. So fuck all those people too! I will rather live for myself on a lonely island then to meet those people again. But I´m so glad to be out from CAI. Now I can start my life and to live again. And I don´t need to be under the awful pressure of CAI. Nobody should live under pressure of CAI. The witches Scott, and the other leaders too, should not be allowed to take slaves as they still do. I really feel sick when I think of Scott and the other weak persons who are leaders in CAI, because they are so bad.
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 2:31 AM)

Hi to the previous poster and all the other CAI scum who tried to bring this site down by posting mental bullshit........
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 3:13 AM)

I actually appreciate most of Anon1's posts. It really is a shame that so many who have left the CAI think that they can still lord it over people and decide what one may read, write and see. You're obviously not going back to the CAI but you could form your own church, with the same kind of rules. That way you'd have the power instead of Scott - reading this crap here that seems to be the reason you left.
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 3:18 AM)

"I'm not signing with my name as some lowlives attack me for personal reasons and not for the contents of my messages!"

Wow  - even Scott is posting here these days!
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 5:10 AM)

Jock,

just to correct your spelling here: I'm not signing with my name as some lowlives attack me for personal reasons and not for the contents of my messages!

"Lowlives" is as a matter of fact: "low life".
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 7:12 AM)

Correct !!!!  Good Guess....auch ein blindes Huhn findet mal ein Korn. This was my post and the only reason why it doesn't have my name under it from the start is that I wanted to find out if some bastards just hate me as a person or my lines! Well over 70 read this post without an attacking word.....looks like I stepped on some toes.....time to go on.....

And yes the initial top message: The sad truth is…….  has been written by me (Jock) and is the conclusion of what I heard/read/been told over the last 1 1/4 years.

As I'm leaving this place I wish you all a "Great time with each other on this side!" BYE BYE !!

Love in HIM

Jock

PS:  sadly for some of the folks here and in CAI - I'm not interested to please any bloody human (wife & son excempt) on this planet   :o)
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 7:18 AM)

The sad truth is.... the CULT (CAI) is destructive.   It often takes time and guts to leave... least for me it did (the fear of burning in Hell, the constant horror stories about fallen people...  the constant  invasion into my life and bullying by the cell leader and others in the CAI management).  And it often takes a long time to let go/heal/start again/etc....  

The sad truth is - it can fucking  hurt. 
The sad truth is - some can remain  bitter and  angry, some may have suffered or lost more than others.


My point is  - there are other options to Christianity.  If people  are leaving, they may wish to continue in their  Faith, find an  calm church and gather their thoughts...that makes  sense for the short term, but  the whole should be questioned again from first principles. People ought to move  on.
Really,living the cult  provides an ideal time to  completely  re-assess and re-examine and think freely. 

ie - from above....
"JESUS = the BIBLE = The Word of God "
really ? -
  is this so.... ?  probably not - the Bible as we read it has been edited and doctored over centuries  by men with agendas that unlikely reflected Jesus'  (if he existed)  own beliefs/preaching.   It cannot be assumed to be the actual Word of  God.....  

the sad truth is.... we've wasted in many  cases a lot of time and money and effort for a  stupid cult. Sadder still, if we didn't take the opportunity to move on and experience life fully.

okay - some many remain Christian,   but that's their decision.  Just that they don't  have the monopoly on life and truth, as  is often assumed especially here in this forum.

Here endith the lesson,
  anon1  (otherwise known as anal-1)


PS
lowlives - should probably be written either as "lowlifes" or  "low-lifes" (plural) - the noun being  "lowlife"  or "low-life" (singular).
i.e. 
" He was a  lowlife  idiot when I knew him."
and
  "(They) The CAI overseers were and are still a bunch of lying  lowlifes"


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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 7:20 AM)

Sorry typo !

Really,living the cult  provides an ideal time to  completely  re-assess and re-examine and think freely. 

should  read as:
Really,leaving the cult  provides an ideal time to  completely  re-assess and re-examine and think freely. 


/anon1
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 7:22 AM)

another typo!
some many remain Christian

some may remain Christian

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 7:27 AM)

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And yes the initial top message: The sad truth is…….  has been written by me (Jock) and is the conclusion of what I heard/read/been told over the last 1 1/4 years.

As I'm leaving this place I wish you all a "Great time with each other on this side!" BYE BYE !!

Love in HIM

Jock

PS:  sadly for some of the folks here and in CAI - I'm not interested to please any bloody human (wife & son excempt) on this planet   :o)
























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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 7:51 AM)

PISS  OFF JOCK

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:06/02/2008 12:28 PM)

Reply to is_aimoo_guest (03/02/2008 4:10 AM).

PS:  sadly for some of the folks here and in CAI - I'm not interested to please any bloody human (wife & son excempt) on this planet   :o)


Your Poor Wife Jock - I bet Sylvie is as happy as anything at your refound nasty character
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:11/02/2008 2:36 AM)

Guys! Manners!!!
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:11/02/2008 3:07 AM)

AT LAST THIS FORUM IS GETTING EXCITING!

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:12/04/2008 7:55 PM)


............................

lest we forget !
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:22/04/2008 2:56 PM)

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PISS  OFF JOCK


Amen, PISS OFF JOCK - you have written that you were going away a long time ago - and you turn up and write this crap occasionally and we just know that you'll be back, like the nasty piece of work that you are

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:23/04/2008 12:57 PM)



Hi Jock,

just wanted to let you know that what you write is helpful for some people. Me included!


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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:24/04/2008 8:09 AM)

Amen, PISS OFF JOCK - you have written that you were going away a long time ago - and you turn up and write this crap occasionally and we just know that you'll be back, like the nasty piece of work that you are...


Hi Jock mate,

Gunthy often said no brain no pain ... I think someone writing this strange things about anybody for sure does not have much pain in life :-)

Armin

Be aware of the idiot, for he is like an old dress. Every time you patch it, the wind will tear it back again.
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:25/04/2008 5:14 PM)



Hi Armin,

Thanks for your lines...hope you and your family are well.....


I'm not bothered about this 1 or 2 nasty idiots.....it is either Michael Alexander Krause alias Michy Williams himself or somebody led by the same evil spirit as him.... + I don't think that I can reach so low, that cowards who attack without having the guts to sign with their own name, can bother me....

I've written the past posts to inform honest people - not to fight with CAI Scum or with People who left CAI but should have stayed there based on their nasty degenerated personality and character. (will disappear again and maybe turn up here and there with some updates)

To Krause & the nasty ones .....exposing your personality through your lines is shame enough for you.....reply with your name if there is any honesty and pride within your wrotten soul - but we all know you are to ashamed to do so.....can't face your evil works = CAI  ! Either good time there or happy returns to CAI whatever applies....

Jock
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:14/05/2008 4:07 PM)

CAI is a heaven for peadophiles and abusers. No one stops them, and they can go on and on, for year after year, for decade after decade. And they probably just enjoy their total freedom to do more and more evil. Just to justify their lusts and their ego, and their money, and their power. Such sick people! But I feel very sorry for the young ones in CAI, who is trapped in CAI.

Where is God in all this?

I think God is gone a long time ago.
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:15/05/2008 11:23 AM)

The sad truth is that the CAI-leaders have blood on their hands. Not to mention how sad it is for those who have been abused and for their families. The CAI-leaders would be so ashamed!

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:20/05/2008 11:00 PM)

I feel so sorry for all the children in CAI who the awful CAI-leaders have tried to hurt, both phsycially and fysically, without no reason. The CAI-leaders have tried to hurt some/many adults in CAI too, without no reason.
The CAI-leaders have to be punished for all this. I hope they will be punished some day, maybe in the future. When all this will be over and the healing-process can start. Maybe some day...
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:08/09/2008 5:24 PM)


...... lest we forget !
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:29/09/2008 9:08 AM)


....lest we forget !
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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:01/10/2008 6:30 AM)

Everything that is hidden will come in front of the light, sooner or later. That´s a natural law. How could it not be?

The day of justice will come, sooner or later. So CAI - tremble until that day, until your very end!
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(Date Posted:01/10/2008 10:47 PM)

Reply to is_aimoo_guest

Everything that is hidden will come in front of the light, sooner or later. That´s a natural law. How could it not be?

The day of justice will come, sooner or later. So CAI - tremble until that day, until your very end!

.. And the supernatural law says:

..."... But if you will not do so, behold, you have sinned against the LORD , and be sure your sin will find you out."

..Numbers 32:23 ( or back to front 32:23)

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:15/10/2008 3:37 PM)

The sad truth is, that Scott Williams and CAI will collect it´s members money month after month, year after year and decade after decade. And it´s a lot of money, several houndreds (English pounds) probably from each single member in CAI every month. And all the properties in CAI, bought of all these money from all it´s members of CAI, more or less, are owned, on the paper, by Scott Williams himself. To speak on to swindle other people´s money.

So, Scott Williams, should, for to speak in his own and CAI´s words, die in his own womits.

 

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:16/10/2008 1:48 AM)

That's not entirely true - so before CAI use that to show how we are all liars and reprobates.,,
Last time I checked, Scott owned the EHQ and his "own" flat at the Towers. The other properties are either in the name of the so-called charity, CAE in Scotland or the public limited company CAI in Australia. However, since he has the full say in the company and they never adhere to their articles anyway, it might as well all be in his name.

As for the amounts of money coming in - last year's financial report showed a strong decline. They reported that "donation income" (what a quaint term for all those forced offerings) was on the rise again however. How that is possible, with more members leaving I don't know but their report is due out soon so watch this space.

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RE:The sad truth is…….
(Date Posted:30/10/2008 4:46 PM)

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