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Title: The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
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(Date Posted:01/01/2008 7:14 AM)
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Hi Visitors,

 flyers and leaflets have been distributed in the Coffs Harbour Area in letter boxes and also nailed on trees and left at shops etc to inform the Orara/Coffs population of the Truth concerning the CAI. This website has been mentioned as a source for additional information etc.

I think it would be sensible to inform the people who visit this website about the real events:

Over the years there have been many allegations of the leadership being involved in homosexual activities with people within the assembly. Also allegations concerning the bad money handling etc etc.  But that is as far as it goes for 95 % of the assembly - nobody stood up and made a statement (no real evidence) etc and therefore it was "pushed under the carpet"! And the leadership ensured that this was all covered up.

At the end of 2006 a few of the senjor officers who have been involved sexually with Scott and who knew about other victims of Scott's sexual practices stood up and made these facts known. From then on, everyone who stood up for the Truth and asked for an independent investigation and spoke up for the victims of the sexual abuse has been "kicked out of the CAI" (In Coffs Harbour are currently about 10 people left out of 40+) over 120 adults (a third) of the CAI have left or have been thrown out of CAI for standing up for what is right. The remaining people either have being lied to or are too much under mind-control / fear to ask questions or to leave the Cult.

After more and more people looked into the corruption / doubble life lived by the leadership more and more things were exposed and an unbelievable amount of evil corruption surfaced. Stealing Money - physical & sexual abuse / grooming teenagers and kids for the leaderships sexual desires etc etc the list is endless - there are at least 50 + people who either have been sexual abused or at least been approached by the leader for sex. Allegations of full blast homosexuallity between Scott Williams and Michy Williams (nee Krause) with detailed facts are just the tip of the ice berg. The unbelieveable amount of corruption and deceit has left many speechless.

The sad fact is that 95% of the CAI members have been sincere Christians giving up life/career/money/family etc to live what they believed / believe to be a christian life. Working hard and being friendly to neighbours etc etc etc But the leadership abused all of this and used it for a coverup for their hunger for gay sex, power and money.

May God's judgement fall soon and swift on this workers of iniquity !

I'm currently staying in Coffs Harbour myself and I'm more than happy to pass on information and facts to anybody in this area who wants to know more about this cult in disguise of a Christian Assembly. Please feel free to contact me at: theroadbuilder@yahoo.co.uk

Jock

 

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:01/01/2008 11:32 AM)

Well done Jock! Keep up the great work. Every word you write is true.
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:02/01/2008 3:54 AM)

Jock! Your action is good! Go on like this!
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:04/01/2008 3:47 PM)

Great work Jock

Has anyone a copy of the flyer

Do you think they would do any good distributed in the same way in Scotland.

Curious

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:05/01/2008 8:40 AM)

You would need differnent faces on them - no one knows these guys here.

why not put Jock and Mark P faces on it ? Just to see what happens ! Would be good for a luagh I thinks.

 The Watcher by the Lake

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:05/01/2008 8:46 AM)

Great work to the guys who have done the flyers... hope that the community in Coffs realises the danger there is to have such Mannatech evangelist and financial, spiritual and sexual abusers around them!!!

So great to see that the truth is being spread...

And good on Mark P if he has left CAI. Since we know it is not easy to make such a step.

There is a difference between those who get their eyes open and change, and those 2 Williams who holds the power and keep it no matter how corrupt they are. Those last ones have never bared/faced any responsibility regarding their corruption.


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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:05/01/2008 9:13 AM)

Reply to The Watcher by the Lake

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(You would need differnent faces on them - no one knows these guys here.

why not put Jock and Mark P faces on it ? Just to see what happens ! Would be good for a luagh I thinks.)

  I dont understand have these 2 not left CAI. Remember I have not seen the flyer.

Curious

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:06/01/2008 12:16 AM)

I also don't understand the reference to putting Jock's face on the flyer- is he still a member? Doesn't sound like it.

Will try and attach poster:

No- can't seem to do it.

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:06/01/2008 7:08 AM)

Hi, if you send the file to info@john832.be I could put it on the site and link it here.
Thanks...
www.john832.be

 

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:06/01/2008 7:46 AM)

It would be great if I could see the flyer and if I feel it would do any good I can quite easily spread it around Abernethy.

Please can some one attach it to this site

Curious

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:06/01/2008 9:06 PM)

 

If anybody wants that flyer and spread it - I gladly (just for you bastard Krause and Sodom Williams) will obtain it and forward it to anybody who sends me their e-mail address

 

just ask for the flyer and send an e-mail to: theroadbuilder@yahoo.co.uk

And greetings to the CAI-idiot who wants mine and Mark P's face on them! Contrary to the Williams-bastards we have nothing to hide.

Yes - I think spreading these in Dollar/Abernethy/Perth letterboxes and displaying them on black boards etc is a great thought - expose the evil!

Jock

PS: as soon as I received a copy I'll try to post it here....

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:07/01/2008 1:41 PM)

Well done Jock! And don´t bother about some CAI-person/persons who always work against decent people who only write down the truth on these forums. They only work towards the truth, and they can´t win, it´s impossible.
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:07/01/2008 7:47 PM)

 

Hi Folks......the CAI leadership has sent me an sms - I thought you all should have the chance to enjoy it:

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Jock - before the Lord gets hold of u, an in case u continue your evil without repentance let me tell u this: You were warned - yet u ignore the warnings! Prepare to give account and make sure it is according to His Word - if it isn't ...how are u going to answer the damage u have caused? I read your "Take Heed" flyer...and feel nothing but sadness - for you! Love in Christ, Michy

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I almost got scared :o) and then I remembered that the Bible tells me that He that is within me is stronger than he that leads Williams and Williams - In Christ we have the Victory. By the way it is not "Jock's" flyer - though I'd like to take all the Glory for this one.....

Well it is very obvious that neither Krause nor Williams care for the souls....what these guys care for is their fake reputation amongst the people - just like the Pharisees  - well let us go on telling the people everywhere where Krause got his 500Merc and how much Williams & Williams are real Christians - spread the word - keep it going the message above shows how much it PO's them to be exposed.

Jock

PS: Krause: no more sitting in Coffs Cafes (spending money you sucked out of the flock) all day long playing the BIG GUY - your face and works are known in COFFS!!! 

 

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:07/01/2008 8:26 PM)

 

 

 

Download the flyer here:           

http://www.john832.be/

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:07/01/2008 10:45 PM)

lest we forget......
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:08/01/2008 1:08 AM)

Hi Joch,

 

would be nice to get the CAI´s or Michy´s / Williams´ mobile number. Would love to send some lines from time to time. Could you please post it here. Thanks - Armin 

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:08/01/2008 3:48 PM)

What can Michy and Scott do to harm the descent people who only wants to tell the truth about the evil CAI, as they haven´t done already. Don´t fear Michy/Scott, but soon fear all the angry people who wants to stop CAI only for what CAI has done, and CAI has done things as bullying and criminal activities as fraud and harassment. Scott/Michy - fear the good forces! 
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:08/01/2008 3:58 PM)

Jock, you seem to be a good guy! Don´t bother about those silly Michy/Scott/CAI-person/persons. They are the bad guys. Soon everyone will realize that, if they haven´t realized that already.
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:11/01/2008 5:55 AM)

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:11/01/2008 9:52 AM)

Michy's sms makes me laugh. They can'thelp themselves but preach the same bullshit they have always preached. Fear and condemnation is all they want to know and therefore it's all they preach. They wait for  something bad to happen to one of those that left the cai and then they'll say "see, we told you". That's how they try and keep hold of peoples lives.

How do they explain Silke's death though? She was in the cai and was one of the loveliest people I have ever met, yet she died of cancer whilst being a member of the cai. She was one of the most devoted and loyal members of the cai and yet God didn't heal her. How do bullshit artist like michy rat explain that???

I return the question to this nazi prick michy rat: How are YOU going to answer before God the damage YOU have caused in peoples lives?????

The "damage" (it is after all the truth about asw, mk, cai)  this flyer will do will weigh nothing in the balance on Judgement Day, compared to the damage you have caused in peoples lives, faith and marriages!! Since the cai is not a work of God anyway there is therefore no damage done to God. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you dick!

The Mind.

P.S: Whoever put that flyer out, good on ya mate!

 

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:11/01/2008 11:10 AM)

Is it not obvious that Michy has no fear or belief in God now?

I don't believe he ever did, the assembly is his ticket to wealth and luxuary and to hell with how much suffering it causes everyone else.

I don't think he is even deluded like Scott, he knows the damage he is doing but just doesn't care.

A truely selfish and evil person,

 

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:11/01/2008 12:45 PM)

The evil, stupid and always lying CAI-folks, you fuck-off!
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:12/01/2008 4:06 AM)

Scott Williams, the founder of CAI, has come with witch-craft, has misused our hospitality and is bad raised. And now he has turned crazy and he is totally insane.
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sorry folks...
(Date Posted:12/01/2008 5:06 AM)

...but sadly many of the postings at the moment seem at an alltime low. Could those who have nothing to contribute but their (maybe understandable) frustration, keep themselves a little bit out of the discussion?

I don't see that postings stating "Scott is totally insane" or "lying CAI-folks, you f*** off!" help in any direction. They probably do not even help those who post them as they just keep their anger burning that way - without any sensible answers.

If I am not wrong, even people who never have been part of the cult, are reading here - and when they see those people posting their repetitions of "CAI is soo evil and cultish, f+++ off" etc - they might think that being out there seems not much better...

After all you just play into the hands of the people you're attacking - as individuals like Fink & Kraus use your statements to "prove" in which desperate state "our" souls are, since we left.

Probably it would help to allow only registered members to use the forum to avoid some of the non-sense which has been posted lately.

Don't get me wrong - I don't want to attack you. But you seem to actually shoot to all directions. And I see the quality and sense of this forum harmed through these "shoots".

Hope that I don't start another war with this.

C.

 

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:12/01/2008 5:11 AM)

C, don't worry about it. All these "scott is evil" posts are from the same person. Best thing to do is ignore them. Sometimes he starts a new thread, you can usually tell from the title, don't even look at it. He might go away. If CAI use this person as an example to their "flock" of how sad and pathetic we are then that's their problem. Even if he didn't write these kind of posts they would be talking crap about us. We are after all now raving drug addicts who can't find a new church. Michy said so, so it must be true.
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:13/01/2008 7:55 AM)

I´m very disappointed at the so called, and very lazy, authorities which haven´t stopped a criminal person like Scott Williams after some decades now. And everyone that protects and defend Scott is as guilty as Scott Williams himself. You cowards!
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:15/01/2008 6:32 AM)

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:18/01/2008 11:40 PM)

lest we forget !
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:19/01/2008 12:00 AM)

.... Good news!  The Coffs Harbour Press has contacted somebody out of the CAI and asked for a meeting concerning CAI......keep it in Prayer - wouldn't it be great to have Williams and Williams return to Coffs - just in time to see their faces in the local paper and having their evil deeds exposed !!!!

Pastor Andrew
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:19/01/2008 12:01 AM)

Download and spread the flyer in Dollar/Perth/Abernethy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Anybody here from Scotland who wants to do more than just "voice an opinion"!?

Dr Whyte - sorry Hyde
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:21/01/2008 10:10 PM)

Who can stop this man? How can we get him and his evil cult out of this great valley??

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:23/01/2008 4:32 PM)

- quote ".... Good news!  The Coffs Harbour Press has contacted somebody out of the CAI and asked for a meeting concerning CAI......keep it in Prayer - wouldn't it be great to have Williams and Williams return to Coffs - just in time to see their faces in the local paper and having their evil deeds exposed !!!! unquote -

Good to see this happened. I wrote anonymous to the newspaper ... and the the great action with the leaflets on the trees etc. !

Can anybody say something about the outcome?

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 7:31 AM)

Still no flyers in Scotland !!!!!!!!!!!      ???????????????????????///

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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:12/04/2008 8:00 PM)

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.............still no flyers in Scotland !!!!  ???? 
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RE:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:30/10/2008 4:45 PM)

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Re:The CAI Truth / Events - the real story
(Date Posted:30/11/2008 5:51 PM)

......and still nobody found who would like to distribute the flyer in Scotland?????
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