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(Date Posted:24/01/2008 7:33 PM)
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Hello to you all


 A friend told me to have a look here on this site and give comment. I am the woman referred to as the crazy woman. Perhaps as Scott and his officers have told you I'm crazy you will pay no head to this but be assured I'm quite a rational person as many in the local community can and will vouch for.

Should I comment or just observe that is my first thought especially as very recently CAI, to shut me up and put me in my place, targeted my daughter.


Where do I begin? As I look through these posts my first reaction is, well get on with it if you've been abused DO Something about it not moan and feel sorry for yourself or hide and let others suffer. But on reflection I realise some people will not be able to do this. If there are financial miss doings report them or are you afraid, as you were part of it you will be punished. Can someone not co-ordinate and collect statements and evidence. Do you need Mr Williams to give you orders before you can act. 


 Mr Williams and his crazy religion never sucked me in, although Stewart and Marjorie my neighbours were. They were very nice people although very lazy and with no family, lonely - prime candidates for CAI. Thanks to them, Claudia K and good old Lars my daughter was targeted.


I naively thought by exposing you lot in the Daily Record (years back) it would put a stop to all the false supposedly Christian nonsense. Unfortunately the article could have done a lot more damage if it had contained more details. It created awareness in the community although hassle from YOU towards my family. So Christian of you.

You (or some of you) made my and my family's life hell over the years. W Franz and some Australian called Paul have threatened me) and that's just in the beginning. You know who you are and what you have done. Do you ever consider how you LIED to the police and various local authority officers? If the TRUTH had been told years ago some may not have suffered, but no in the name of Scott you were prepared to LIE. Very Christian.

Are you aware  Many of YOUR families contacted an outreach group to find out how you were. Who do you think gave them that information; it had to be some one in a position to see who was at meetings etc but not in the group.


I am very bitter at the moment especially as over the years my family and others  have had to suffer because of Your so-called Christian beliefs even although we were not involved with the charade. Unfortunately now my own daughter has become part of this sham. I once felt pity on many of you and your families but not any more.


All I can say is You are the ones in the position to put a stop to Mr Williams and his charade. YOU know the lies the secrets, do the Christian thing, take them (proof) to the proper authorities and put a stop to all of this once and for all. Leaflets are one thing proof is what matters.


I do not think it would serve any good purpose at the moment to write here again so I wish you all happiness in your chosen futures.


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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:24/01/2008 7:58 PM)

thank you for writing to this web page. I can understand how bitter you feel about the whole situation, as my family was also torn apart by the christian assembly .
Yes we do moan alot on this web site-it helps us,
Yes we do talk alot about doing something. But as you yourself stated we have been told what to do for x amount of years and doing something of our own accord is very hard.
Beleive it or not many of us wanted to be good christians, and now that we are out of the 'so obviously not' christian assembly,  but still want to christian, many of us struggle with what real/true christianity is.
We are talking to the papers next week, with lots of fact and some documents(i.e. proof) and then will distribute that article to the scottish papers-if its a good article and written well.
It may not be of much encouragement to you at the moment, but the aussie assembly has gone from 60 to 6.
the canadian from approx 20 to 4.
Yes scotland is a stronghold, but when lars, john and andrew leave, There is no one left to run the show in the same nazi intimadating fashion, and even though you may not believe this there are people in scotland who have concerns. 
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:26/01/2008 5:36 AM)


Hi Mrs S.

I lived in Scotland and have tried to be friendly to you - as a christian - 95% of the time you never even bothered to greet me back. Your aggressive and unapproachable mannerism did not help me to consider any of your statements.....  Not everything is either black or white....! It would have been better to talk to me in a normal manner if you were really interested to "open our eyes"! Don't only think about the fact how CAI treated you - how did you treat the individuals (who were sadly CAI members...)

On my part I'd like to apologize for any inconvienience .... and accept your apology in return !
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:26/01/2008 5:57 AM)

Dear Ann,

I can understand your concerns and feelings towards the CAI system and it's members. In case you do come back to read this site - I would like to somewhat alleviate your concerns in regards to whether the dirty deeds done behind closed doors in the CAI have been reported to the authorities. I can confirm that all the physical psychological and sexual abuse  has been reported to the police in Australia - investigations are and have been underway in several states of Australia for some time now. Sadly in this day and age - these case are not isolated incidences. The authorities do take the allegations seriously and it is just a matter of time until the law will catch up on the thugs. The sad fact of life is that cults are a breeding ground for abuse and since these communities are so "close-knit" matters such as these are hard to prove and - I guess this is the reason that so many of such groups "survive" and keep growing.

The brainwashing techniques used in the CAI are terrible and the consequences for the individual believer are pretty dire and in the end - it takes several years for most members to work out that they have been fooled and deceived. Usually by then several family members are involved and if not family - there are close ties with others that are hard to break and sever,  since this is what the CAI belief system dictates. The worst part is the way bible verses are cunninly twisted to indoctrinate the member into fear of hellfire should he or she leave the CAI belief system. For an outsider this is hard to understand - nevertheless this system of fear, control and intimidation is not to be underestimated and is indeed very very damaging to the individual. Many who manage to physically escape this cult - will  struggle often for years to trust and many will never again walk into another church. To add insult to injury the CAI uses these people as "examples" to prove to those who are still on the inside that there is no "life" outside of the CAI and this further strengthens their position in the weakened minds of the members.  It is so sick - since in reality they should be looken at themselves and seeing the truth for what it is - this is the damage THEY have inflicted on those poor souls.

If you are presented with a $101 bill the counterfeit is pretty easy to detect, if however you are given a $100 bill that is just printed on slightly different paper matters are quite different.

Interwoven with the many twisted doctrines is a system of hard labour that acts to completely break down barriers of resistance in the member leaving you with very little energy to fight the "system". CAI is a dangerous cult and in many ways ridding yourself of  a "cult" is like overcoming an addiction to drugs or alcohol - only those who "have been there" can really understand the whole picture. This "addiction" involves the leaders of the CAI system who are "addicted to having the members completely and utterly depend on them" and then sadly there is the addiction planted into the member to completely "depend on the system" for your life and pretty much all the decisions you make in life.

I have been putting information together for a while now to help those wishing to break free from the CAI system and in a way - this information can give a lot of insight into the CAI system for those who stand on the outside such as yourself, suffering with the lose of a family member.

The website is   http://www.4kin.net

I just want to confirm that there is a large group of people here in Aussie who will not let this situation rest until "justice is done". Forgiveness is a the right Christian attitude to have - but that does not mean that the perpetrators of the evil deeds can just walk away scot-free. God is not mocked - what a man sows - that he will indeed reap.

If you need more help - there is contact information on the site above.

Steve







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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:28/01/2008 6:55 AM)

You blame the cult for your frustrated life ? Even if you had nothing to do with tthem ?

How das that work ?

OK, let me see "Argh, these so called Christians next door are thinking something negative about me - my life is a misery now"

And now you are so messed up and paranoid (or so it seems) that you think tthey targeteed your daughter just to get at you ?

Although I suppose living in a village like Abernethy must in itself be boring enough to make any one messed up, especially if you are always alone.

You should get on with it yourself -
you sound very messed up indeed - you have nothing to do with the cult but find time to moan about it and go to the newspapers

OK, I agree that the cult is a fuckin mess - run by total crazies for crazies. But does your daughter fits this picture also ? Sad, lonely, lazy ? Did you not help her before they did ?

Interesting that she finds thier company better than yours - when I was a member (many years ago) I never enjoyed being with them.
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:28/01/2008 11:34 AM)

Wow - if that is you F******, may I suggest you take a deep breath and learn some respect for other people's feelings?

If it is not F******, the advice still stands.
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(Date Posted:28/01/2008 12:45 PM)

Wow - if that is you F******, may I suggest you take a deep breath and learn some respect for other people's feelings?

If it is not F******, the advice still stands.

if this is the same person, reading your post about your daughter just raises some questions about your parenting - your daughter obviously feels more at home with the fascist cult that with you !

No wonder this cult grows and grows - if all parents are as fucked up as you, children would surely run to their friendly, money grabbing perverted arms.

Who or what is "F******" ? I tried to imagine what you meant with it -

Is it "Family" ? - makes sense considering what you write.

Is it "Failure" ? As in your life ?

Still, I did take a deep breath, filled with some cannabis laden smoke - and thought "Other people's feelings my arse" - "respect" my arse - is that what you do ? Respect other people's feelings ? Does not seem that you do

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:28/01/2008 6:05 PM)

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'OK, I agree that the cult is a fuckin mess - run by total crazies for crazies.'

You said it and admit you were in it

Need I say more - Get help
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:29/01/2008 9:49 PM)


Mrs Sangster,

The fact that you have no problem at all to slag of a decent honest couple (quote: Stewart and Marjorie my neighbours were lazy...no kids...no family etc etc) says more about your disturbed relationship to your fellow humans than 1000 words - to be honest: you should get help for your own and your family sake.

I was also the person who wrote the lines above critising your bad behaviour during my time in Scotland.

Stewart and Marjorie have over a 10 year period shown me nothing but friendliness and hospitaliy - something I didn't see in you at all over the 10 year period. How can you portay yourself in such a (deceivingly good) light when you at the same time slander decent folks on a public website - I felt free to post your name; as one should at least have the guts to sign with his / her name when he /she slanders others (unfairly/falsly) in such a degenerated way.

I would at any time defend Stewart and Marjorie and can provide dozens of references confirming their good reputation - as honest and sincere Christians - sadly I can't come up with a single name/person, who I know of, who would do the same for you....and it is not just people within the CAI that know about your disturbed behaviour towards fellow humans ...

Hope you take the opportunity and judge your own behaviour - taking it as the chance to become a better person!

Best regards,

Jock W. W.
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:29/01/2008 9:59 PM)



.....if you are in need of help with your current situation and your daughters membership in the cult - I'm more than happy to be of assistance - you can contact me via:

                                theroadbuilder@yahoo.co.uk


Regards,

Jock
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:29/01/2008 10:23 PM)



  Stewie and his lovely wife are great people!! !!!
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:30/01/2008 2:45 AM)

I'm sure she'll be dying to contact you Jock, after your CAI rebuke to her. You may feel strongly about things, but you are not in the CAI anymore and cannot tell people what to do. Seeing as you were the one who started the Andrew Hitler account and gave out the name and password for it, you are mainly responsible for a lot of the silly posts here. Whether you wrote them or not cannot be seen because you gave out the password to everyone, but you are responsible for them. REPENT :)

Have you actually considered that your entire opinion of the neighbour may have been completely different if you had not been in the CAI when you met her?

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:30/01/2008 7:30 AM)

Hi Mr. "Guest",

as a matter of fact: My approach to Mrs S. was not negatively influenced by CAI - I actually thought that somebody might have offended her and that it is my christian responsibility to help sorting this out by being extra helpful/friendly/approachable - I actually thought that it would be great winning her for Christ - by the way still think this way.

So .... nope - your assumption is rubbish - Concering the Scots in general: I got to know the Scots as friendly upright and straight forward very humerous people - actually the Aussies could learn a lot of the Scots - I can say that I miss the Scots and have had a conflict with maybe 7 or 8 of this lovely folk over my 11 years in Scotland - ....... person above has without a doubt been the most unapproachable amongst these.....


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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:30/01/2008 9:43 AM)

Jock  - you really gotta learn to read. I asked you a question (which you answered, thanks) but I did not make an assumption. You really do seem to go down the persecution route everytime someone is not 100% in unity with you (now who does that remind me of?).
Your answer to her was not in the least helpful or friendly. A friendly helpful approach would have been to contact her privately, not on the www, irrespective of her own behaviour, character or your personal opinion of her. Try and be the bigger person.

Now, before you go off the deep end again because I can't be bothered to sign my name, I think the reason you have little credibility on this site at the moment is because you have posted so many sex allegations, and whenever anyone asked you for hard proof or facts you disappear - reappear a few weeks later to slag off anyone who isn't like you, and once the questions come up again you disappear.

So, what proof do you have that Scott actually had anal sex with someone/anyone, how often, etc. - what proof do you have that Michy and Scott had sex.

Not expecting to hear from you for a few more weeks, but one never knows...

Mr Guest
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:30/01/2008 10:31 AM)

I have lived with this huge CAI-problem for many years now. And CAI really makes you frustrated, angry and sad. But luckily enough CAI is not the world, in the real world, outside CAI, there are some real friendly and nice people. But you have to go on with your life. And to forget CAI, your bad experiences with CAI will decline more and more. So you CAI-leaders who only want to harass and to deceive so many people, go back to the sh*t-holes that you came from! You really belong there!
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 7:33 AM)

Jock  - you really gotta learn to read. I asked you a question (which you answered, thanks) but I did not make an assumption. You really do seem to go down the persecution route everytime someone is not 100% in unity with you (now who does that remind me of?).
Your answer to her was not in the least helpful or friendly. A friendly helpful approach would have been to contact her privately, not on the www, irrespective of her own behaviour, character or your personal opinion of her. Try and be the bigger person.

Now, before you go off the deep end again because I can't be bothered to sign my name, I think the reason you have little credibility on this site at the moment is because you have posted so many sex allegations, and whenever anyone asked you for hard proof or facts you disappear - reappear a few weeks later to slag off anyone who isn't like you, and once the questions come up again you disappear.

So, what proof do you have that Scott actually had anal sex with someone/anyone, how often, etc. - what proof do you have that Michy and Scott had sex.

Not expecting to hear from you for a few more weeks, but one never knows...

Mr Guest
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write to me you back-bone-less bum and I might consider to answer you! There are some idiots like you who are able to ask a lot of stupid (self-explanatory) questions but don't have the balls to get something going themselves ..... if you don't want to let me know who you courgaeous person are then in short: kiss my.... I hate people of your sub-culture .....acusing/attacking others but not even having the balls to stand up for it....I guess you behaved the same way in CAI - how often did you kiss Scott's butt instead of.....!

theroadbuilder@yahoo.co.uk

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 8:07 AM)

well well,

your poor answer just confirms, what "Mr Guest" wrote before.

so, instead of bullying him - how about some facts, mate? Or, if you can't prove what you state, why don't you feck off yourself?

Who is the "back bone less bum" after all, Jock?

regards,
your bad conscience

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 11:28 AM)

Asking how you know Michy and Scott had sex together is not self-explanatory Jock. If you give these kind of answers on your glorious day in court the Judge will kick your sorry butt out of it. And as to whether I have done anything for the anti-cai cause or not - yes I have, but don't feel the need to brag about it, and also never made any kind of "allegations" without written proof.

Did I ever kiss Scott's butt or any other part of his anatomy - no, I am an Untermensch (ie. female), so he wouldn't have wanted me to anymore than I would have wanted to.

And no, Jock, I will not write to you. Firstly I don't take commands from you, nor was your invitation very appealing (ie. you hate me already). You obviously can't put your money where your mouth is and are making your cause ridiculous. Scott and Michy must be laughing all the way to the bank (literally). If anyone is in Scott's service Jock, it is you. You are rude, you hate people, you classify people into social stratas, you are not interested in anyone else's opinion if it is not 100% in unity with yours and you are incapable of an adult conversation (now who does that remind me of again?). Now, before you blow up again this is written in an attempt to help your cause, as I fear your bull in a china shop approach will only damage it, and has probably already done so. As for the relatives and family of CAI members you were so worried about in another topic - what must they think of your swearing, your rudeness, your bullishness? Would you want your child/friend to leave CAI just to become like that?

Before you fire away your pellets of hate, just take a look below to see what you've actually achieved up until now:

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 4:33 PM)




I believe that 99.9 % of the women in CAI who have been called bitch - haven't deserved that at all.....in your case I make an exception!

Jock
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 5:25 PM)



I agree with Jock. You are a sick bitch! Why don't you go and leave honest and upright people alone and see a brain-doctor! Either you are still in CAI or just weird - sowing disunity amongst people on this site.

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 5:28 PM)



.....I would go for the sick option [EMOTE]smiley-kiss.gif[/EMOTE]


Have a good nigt!

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 6:59 PM)



Bible:  God is light = in the open
           Satan is darkness = hiding away


Lady - who's child are you?

Focus on who are your enemies.....

Vous êtes impoli, arrogant et stupide!

Est-ce la raison pour laquelle votre mari est devenu gay?



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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:03/02/2008 11:01 PM)

Wow guys. It seems like you have left the CAI, but the CAI has not left you!

Talk about cursing and attacking someone who merely stated their opinion. Have we really sunk this low? Jock, I hate to break it to you, but the lady poster was on the whole, right.

She was trying to do you a favor by making you realise that HATE and anger and not the answer. Fighting fire with more fire (CAI's hatred with more hatred in return) is not the solution according to the Bible. You should aim to live and walk in such away as to SHOW the CAI what a real Christian, walking in love to God and his fellow man, looks like.

I think I can guess the ladies name in question, judging by her English and some clues between the lines. And she can hardly be faulted for taking a stand against the CAI. She did so LOOOOOONG before you or I did Jock. You are shooting at the wrong people.

Seriously, such hate will only consume you. Vengenace will never satisfy it. I know Jock, I too still feel angry and frustrated about Scott and the CAI. But tongue lashing any and all that disagree with you is just what Scott does. We need to get past this, move on with God. I know it is easier said than done, but is necessary if we are to make a better go of christianity going forward than we did in the past 20 years.

So rather than take offence, perhaps you should just mull over her words a little more. I dont see anything mean or spiteful in them at all.

A scripture I have been thinking about recently might help - "Then he said to me, “This is what the Lord says to Zerubbabel: It is not by force nor by strength, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of Heaven’s Armies." Zech 4:6 

And another one;

Rom 12: 14 Bless those who persecute you. Don’t curse them; pray that God will bless them. 15 Be happy with those who are happy, and weep with those who weep. 16 Live in harmony with each other. Don’t be too proud to enjoy the company of ordinary people. And don’t think you know it all! 17 Never pay back evil with more evil. Do things in such a way that everyone can see you are honorable. 18 Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone. 19 Dear friends, never take revenge. Leave that to the righteous anger of God. For the Scriptures say, “I will take revenge; I will pay them back,” says the Lord20 Instead, “If your enemies are hungry, feed them. If they are thirsty, give them something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals of shame on their heads.” 21 Don’t let evil conquer you, but conquer evil by doing good.

Take from that what you will, and do whatever you must. But please let the Scriptures be your guide.

Your anger and pain is obvious to all. I think the female poster was actually trying to help, but you turned round and treated her like Scott would have.

God bless Jock. Miss you loads. I share your pain and anger.

George.
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:04/02/2008 11:03 AM)

Thanks George, for you balanced and fair lines.

Thanks Jock, for reminding me why I left the CAI. Being insulted and reprimanded on a regular basis because I, a member of the female subhuman species, actually posessed a brain and used it now and again was not much fun. And even though you will probably just go off at the deep end again, I do feel that I have to stress a point. Slinging around wild accusations such as Michy and Scott had sex will not help anyone. Despite questions from several people, anonymous or not, you have never been able to back up what you have said. I really don't care if Michy and Scott had sex together, and neither does the law. If they were both consenting adults - sorry, mate there's nothing you can do. However, CAI will be taking down and using against you in evidence everything you have written here. You may seriously have damaged the chances of genuine abuse victims by spreading what will be seen as baseless slander about a "pillar" of the Coffs community. Scott Williams is a JP, he also has a lot of money, he is intelligent and he has a lawyer. You Jock, seem to be purely belligerent, and I doubt that you have consulted a lawyer. If you had you would not go walking on the ceiling everytime someone asks for proof, because that is precisely the first question the lawyer would have asked you. I shall not wish you luck in your fight, because I think it is doomed (ooh, stating my opinion, what a bitch I am indeed!). And I feel sorry for those who really were abused because as said, their cases will be affected by what you have done and continue to do.

Monsieur ou Madame Grenouille: Pour votre information, mon mari n'est pas devenu gai. Et les gens ne deviennent pas gais; ils sont gais ou ils ne sont pas.Excusez mon français terrible et comme nous disons en anglais, get a life....

Hoping you will all find peace somewhere along the way -

Kind Regards, Jezebel Bitch

 

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:04/02/2008 11:42 AM)

however you judge and argue back and forth you have to know that it is indeed a criminal act if somebody forth somebody to have sex through a kind of "mind-control" such a mind-control system we in the CAI.

So far, JB is not right in case of many abuses within the CAI. Maybe she's right regarding MK - who knows?

And ... if they collect the data here (what has been written) to go against us - we all should stand up here and defend that person ... a clouds of ... ha ha.

It is not so easy as JB thinks. However her warning is ok and needed - just with a bit arrogant style.

Ltd.
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(Date Posted:04/02/2008 12:55 PM)

Hi Ralph,

I wonder what you find arrogant in her statement. Maybe it's your lacking English (now that's me being arrogant, God forgive me) but her statement is simply straight and factual. 

By the way, it does not go against Jock personally as a German typically would see it. It is rather the situation provoked by his actions, she is aiming at.

And Jock is by far not the only one damaging the case here. (key word "swedish bozo")

How about getting some sense back into this forum, some decent discussing without those permanent insults?

For me, that ridiculous posting of many here is a main reason not to sign with my name. (My name has been seen with too many idiots for too many years, you know.)

So, Ms jezebel Bitch (guess I know who you are - good on ya and may the sun always shine on you - as it does anyway I guess), thanks for your timely and fitting comments.

hasta la vista.
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(Date Posted:05/02/2008 2:18 AM)

We are talking to the papers next week, with lots of fact and some documents(i.e. proof) and then will distribute that article to the scottish papers-if its a good article and written well.
It may not be of much encouragement to you at the moment, but the aussie assembly has gone from 60 to 6.
the canadian from approx 20 to 4.
Yes scotland is a stronghold, but when lars, john and andrew leave, There is no one left to run the show in the same nazi intimadating fashion, and even though you may not believe this there are people in scotland who have concerns. 


What really remains to be done is that all you that have left the CAI, try in some way to reach out in love to those  who are still caught up in this mess. Eventually they will come around and leave as well. Even if you receive any spite or shunning or bad communication in return, a postage stamp doesn't cost much but think about it like this. If one remaining person receives " encouraging" mail or personal communication from 10 different persons who have left, it is going to have some effect. Eventually the CAI will ground to a halt. There are huge financial obligations that have to be met over all the properties and purchases of the CAI and the CAI system will become financially bankrupt with Bank repossesions left right and centre bringing the whole thing down. It is really a case of all you who have left to now react in a very positive unified way to those who are still caught up..

Look a postage stamp doesn't cost much....

some food for thought.

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 11:55 AM)

hasta la vista (you can spell my name right - congratualations!
Maybe my english isn't perfect and I agree regarding Jock and maybe it is not arrogant (sure she can forgive me - remember the time we had together sometimes in the Area I have been for 4 years ... - what about your mother by the way?) --- but what do you think about the arguments and views I had?

Agree with bringing sense back into the forum. In earlier times I did it already but there was the one or another misunderstanding and some poor comments ... however this is past - here we go!

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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 2:12 PM)

think you're barking up the wrong tree Ralph, my mum's been dead for 23 years.....
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:05/02/2008 6:49 PM)

The evil Scott Williams will burn in hell, you Scott Williams, you motherfucker!
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:06/02/2008 8:01 AM)

There is nothing good in the character Scott Williams, he is 100 % evil. I have never in my life earlier seen such a person that Scott Williams, he really enjoys to ruin other people´s lives deliberately! Then he obviously thinks he feels good, I think anyway. Such a totally idiot!
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:06/02/2008 11:57 AM)

Yes, seems like this. Maybe Scott called many woman like that.

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Reply To is_aimoo_guest
(Date Posted:06/02/2008 12:21 PM)

A friend told me to have a look here on this site and give comment.

I naively thought by exposing you lot in the Daily Record (years back) it would put a stop to all the false supposedly Christian nonsense.

I am very bitter at the moment especially as over the years my family and others have had to suffer because of Your so-called Christian beliefs even although we were not involved with the charade.


If this is Anne Sangster writing this then all I can say is that it is bullshit.

A friend told me to have a look here...liar, you have been writing here for ages, Curious indeed.

Over the years...if you were not invovled in the cult, then how the fuck did it effect you ? How the fuck did you suffer if you had nothing to do with the crazy bastards ?

You were the one who wrote to the newspapers ? Nosy cow
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:11/02/2008 2:34 AM)

Oh goody!!! More namecalling! Can we please just grow up and treat each other nicely or do you want a time out on the 'naughty-step'?
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:11/02/2008 5:05 AM)

Hey Noisy Cow and others

get real - get some perspective.

Mrs Sangster (and other neighbours)  in Aberneathy had to put up FOR YEARS with the  cult.
Scott and  others  (RCI/CAE/CAI) were not exactly  very good neighbours.

FOR YEARS - constant  stream of people  leaving the property at all times of the day (they knew  nothing about).
FOR YEARS - noisy workweekends.
FOR YEARS - work-evenings (1990's) - all through the winters there were  cemment mixers etc on the tennis court next to her house as well as  flood lights all over the place,. etc (till 11pm at night).
FOR YEARS - noisy area-meetings in the summer every  2-3 weekends!
FOR YEARS - the constant  cutting of  grass  all through the summer - more noise.

Nevermind the  work where 50-100 members  turned up for 2-3 work-weeks  each summer in the early 90's.

Nevermind  that your immediate neighbour joined the  cult and the house  up from you was bought by a  cult-member... anyone  would feel under attack....  the CAI would've have bought  her house straight away if she had  moved....!!!  CAI getto!!

Did the cult  nuture good relationship with her - no.
Was she ever consulted in advance of  major projects?   probably not.
Was she  ever invited to a meeting / social ?  - I can't remember seeing her there.
Did  the CAI give her any respect - no - she  was the 'horrible neighbour'  etc.  when discussed internally.
Stewie/Marge - are nice people, but may be  there is an element of truth to her statement.  Who knows.  
(We're not here in this thread to defend Stewie/Marge.... but  they were certainly easy targets for Scott, and Margie had an existing  emotional attachment to PH.).

I am not  saying Mrs Sangster's doesn't have her own issues (we;re not perfect - & I don't know her), but  we didn't help at all.

Personally I was  ashamed  at how we treated her - I remember  those  work-nights/weekends/projects etc and the noise and  attitudes.... if I was her, I'd be well pissed off!   ....didn't the cult have a  problem with a  retaining  wall .... I if remember correctly her garden/house was flooded  because of the activities/drainage  installed into PH! 

Abernethy  is a village - if a radical cult  turned  up next door to you, I am sure  you'd be equally concerned etc !


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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:11/02/2008 5:26 PM)

Reply to is_aimoo_guest (24/01/2008 7:33 PM).
Yes scotland is a stronghold, but when lars, john and andrew leave, There is no one left to run the show in the same nazi intimadating fashion

There is still a few people in scotland who will do it in a nice Nazi manner, such as the young guy Torbin and Franz of course he even enjoys to give Adolph Hitler immpressions and thinks it funny also, we saw him do it on video also and all the high up officers think it also very funny indeed.

Hitler killed millions of people, so explain what is funny about the monster please, I know that the officers read this forum, at least some of them do, so perhaps you can explain what is funny about Adolph Hitler.

You can also pretend to be not a officer and explain what is funny about hitler ?
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:11/02/2008 5:39 PM)

Franz is just a clown - he simply doesn't know better and is doing a lot of rubbish out of his minority complex.
Actually one should pitty him and his poor wife - she has to suffer his "jokes" all the time as she is of the wrong race.(ASW warned him before he married her - now she pays for it) 
Torben is quite similar; he never learned to behave like a normal human being and tries to compensate with his dominant attitude - he thinks that's masculine... just another disturbed character in ASW's little "Reich".
Well, actually those two dickheads are just the same sort of concrete, Hitler built his ovens from... time passes, but people stay the same.

best regards,
Hermann Göring.
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RE:Get on with it
(Date Posted:11/02/2008 5:44 PM)

Oh goody!!! More namecalling! Can we please just grow up and treat each other nicely or do you want a time out on the 'naughty-step'?
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I think the naughty step is at Pitversie and  Douglas House and is already full up with loud mouthed swearing loonies. Tantrums essential swearing optional.
As you say pathetic but what example does their master display.
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