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(Date Posted:10/11/2010 11:51 PM)
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Sorry, it's me the owner/moderator that potentially gets in trouble when allegations are made public on this forum, and it puts it at risk with such things. As much as I'd love to name and shame the criminals who have wronged various people who post here, I simply can't allow the full names of individuals to be displayed as rapists in the threads, or in particular, the thread topic titles which are very easily found in a google search.

Your message was heard though, and we hope justice comes hard and swift in this life AND the next.
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 12:09 AM)

Unkooldude,

Well said.

Blessings,

Ian

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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 4:29 AM)

Uncoolman, don't worry. I understand. I only wish I had heard from you earlier. Thank you for your words.
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 4:37 AM)

And Ian, I have major warning bells going off about you.

The appalling attitudes that you have expressed to people who have suffered sexual and psychological trauma are very worrying.

Being a good Apologist does not negate the Christian need to have and demonstrate empathy.

If you were to reveal the kind of attitudes you have towards women, abuse victims and people who have experienced mental health problems in the UK, you would be considered as a madman whose views would not be accepted in a public arena - which is why I took you to task on this public forum as you assume so much authority here.

Indeed, the kind of views you have are so unusual here and considered as so unacceptable that you would only get away with expressing them in very marginalised circles, such as a secretive sect or cult.

Go figure.



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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 5:06 AM)

AN&S,

The appalling attitudes that you have expressed to people who have suffered sexual and psychological trauma are very worrying. Really? Well I suppose that just goes to demonstrate the differences between the overly 'PC' UK, and good old enlightened Australia. Here, we base our judgments of people on realities rather than fantasies. For interest's sake, in my country the sorts of attitudes and behaviours that you've displayed these past few days would likely result in a mental health assessment. Anyhoo ...

Being a good Apologist does not negate the Christian need to have and demonstrate empathy. I'm surprised that you actually believe you can speak to what a Christian should, or shouldn't do. Doesn't your hypocrisy cause you to blush? It should. I fully empathise with those who are deserving of it. The 'gobby', the hypocritical and/or the self-righteous usually receive what they warrant, as I have much less patience for such nonsense. But if history is any judge, people with these traits end up 'stalking' me for a year or two, bellowing about the injustices received at my hand. I suppose I can look forward to adding you to the list.

If you were to reveal the kind of attitudes you have towards women, abuse victims and people who have experienced mental health problems in the UK, you would be considered as a madman whose views would not be accepted in a public arena - which is why I took you to task on this public forum as you assume so much authority here. Well, I've not actually expressed an opinion "concerning women, abuse victims and people who have experienced mental health problems" to you, here. In any case didn't you write about how 'fine and dandy' things were? How your CAI past didn't affect your present, and how it wouldn't affect your future? I'd suggest that if you spent half as much time reflecting on the abuse that you've directed towards others here, as you did complaining about the abuse that you believe you've received, your assessments might be a little more credible. As it is, I rate them comparable to those emanating from someone very much like you who lives down my way.

Indeed, the kind of views you have are so unusual here and considered as so unacceptable that you would only get away with expressing them in very marginalised circles, such as a secretive sect or cult. You need to get out more. If you seriously believe the above nonsense to be true, then your grasp of reality isn't just slipping, it's slipped!

Goose.

Ian


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(Date Posted:11/11/2010 5:44 PM)



Indeed, the kind of views you have are so unusual here and considered as so unacceptable that you would only get away with expressing them in very marginalised circles, such as a secretive sect or cult.


Yep whoever you are you are right about that. But just like in CAI/Revival sociopaths will find a way to make others suffer, and this is a cult of sorts with only a very few followers.

How many of the people here sat in their assemblies and watched the same abuse go on, year after year after year, and even though deep down they knew it was wrong, they said nothing. They haven't changed either.

Nobody is stalking you Ian, you are not that important. People are just trying to get through to you that you don't practice what you preach. And it's embarrasing.

I would be interested to hear though why you think that putting the boot into a rape victim is supposed to inspire potential revival leavers to trust you in any way.

And you think others need a mental health assessment?
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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 6:22 PM)

Well said, guest. Couldn't agree more.

He is a very cruel person and his Revivalism has never left him - or maybe the predispositions to authoritarianism he has and had at the time he joined CAI was what attracted him to Revivialism in the first place?

And Ian - let me assure you - I had no 'CAI past'. You obviously have not read anything I wrote correctly - so hell bent on disparaging everything I, and basically anything ANYONE says against you.  It is an interesting psychological process to observe. How long will you go on fighting your one-man war?

Do you see them coming for you in your sleep?

You know I can't be bothered reading the ridiculous rants you spend so much time on in response to everything I say? Seeing you copy and pasting every, single sentence that somebody at odds with you posts, then dissecting it bit by bit is very bizarre.

Do you not think it's just a tad extreme, to put it mildly?

I can't take you seriously now and am finding it humorous.

The dissenting voices are few, Ian. But that doesn't make them wrong.

But you will never take heed. You are in 'battle-mode' all the time. It must be hard being Ian, yes, Guest.







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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 6:38 PM)

Tracey,

Nobody is stalking you Ian, you are not that important. People are just trying to get through to you that you don't practice what you preach. And it's embarrasing. Are you up to a challenge? Count the number of completely ranting posts that AN&S has addressed to me over the past few days, and then come back and tell me that shes not into 'stalking'. It's funny, but the similarities between you and her are remarkable: "I'm not stalking you" ... "you're not worth it", etc. And yet your fixation with me is pasted all over this forum. Ironically, she's exceeded even you in the 'volume-by-time' stakes! Now, and to your later point: please, point out to me where I've not practiced what I've preached

I would be interested to hear though why you think that putting the boot into a rape victim is supposed to inspire potential revival leavers to trust you in any way. Alleged rape victim, given that all we have is a series of anonymous allegations, after all. It's interesting, but my challenges to AN&S have all focused on her clearly atrocious and hypocritical behaviour; in other words, on her conduct. You complain about me "putting in the boot" to her, and yet you apparently are blissfully oblivious to how frequently and stridently she's "slipped the toe in" to others, me included (it must be nice having two standards). Anyway, given that you've expressed an interest I'll share a little information with you. I receive between 20 and 40 emails from people seeking my advice on Revivalist issues each week, and have done so for years. Apparently they do trust me.

And you think others need a mental health assessment? Not others, just her.

Goose.

Ian


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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 6:42 PM)

Guest, I also wanted to say that it is scary to think of what some of those, in Ian's category, who have apparently left these groups did see and hear and did nothing about all the time they were there.

Personally, I was never a part of CAI/RCI but was adversely affected because certain CAI/RCI 'officers' in Scotland objected to me standing up to them in relation to someone close to me, who was involved - similar, in a sense, to what I've experienced from Ian here actually.

They took this young boy into the group when he was about 10 years old, totally corrupted his mind against his family. Totally transformed his personality to an extremely intelligent and likeable boy to someone totally unrecognisable in the hatred he showed.
He spoke in bizarre 'tongues', he called his mother a demonic slut of Satan, so on, so on.

One night 'they' came to collect him to take him to the group - she tried to stop him going into their car. She saw them in the car and one man in particular glared at her. She will never forget his face. I know it was at that point 'they' decided to 'teach her a lesson'.

Thankfully, the young boy is now a man who's done well for himself and is no longer with them. He's as happy as he can be, given what they did to him. And this was at the time Scott was around, so you can imagine....

So, what Ian has subjected me to here is completely unsurprising. I know his type through and through. I have an innate sense of these things.

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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 6:47 PM)

Guest, I'd suggest completely ignoring Ian, from now on.

He obviously cannot stop himself engaging in this kind of abusive behaviour.

Personally, I'd like to be able to post something without this moron interfering in absolutely everything that's said here.

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(Date Posted:11/11/2010 6:47 PM)

AN&S,

You know I can't be bothered reading the ridiculous rants you spend so much time on in response to everything I say? I see. You don't read them, but you nonetheless seem to consistently average between two to three long-winded surrejoinders per rejoinder of mine! Please let me know when you're going to follow through with the earlier threat to completely ignore me. I could do with the peace that such would bring.

Ian


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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 6:50 PM)

Ian, when a woman tells you to STOP, can you not listen?

Are you so f******g demented?

F**k off!
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 6:55 PM)

AN&S,

Ian, when a woman tells you to STOP, can you not listen? That would depend on whether she's demanding something that she's not prepared to concede herself. Are you so f******g demented? 'Nope', I'm perfectly calm and in control of myself. Are you? F**k off! Well that's not a particularly gracious or Christian thing to say.

You demand courtesies from me that you're clearly not prepared to extend yourself. What makes you think that you're so entitled?

Ian


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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 7:16 PM)

Look you twisted maniac - I am discussing serious issues pertaining to RAPE carried out by a CAI/RCI pastor.

Why are you constantly imposing yourself in this topic?

Go away.

Can you still not see how utterly evil your behaviour to me is?
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 7:18 PM)

And. THIS TOPIC HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT I AM A CHRISTIAN.

Can you not understand this?

You are the most warped human being I've ever had the displeasure to meet.

This topic was never intended to be a theological discussion.

You imposed yourself because of your own agenda.

Leave me alone.

You are disgusting.

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(Date Posted:11/11/2010 7:50 PM)

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Tracey,

Nobody is stalking you Ian, you are not that important. People are just trying to get through to you that you don't practice what you preach. And it's embarrasing. Are you up to a challenge? Count the number of completely ranting posts that AN&S has addressed to me over the past few days, and then come back and tell me that shes not into 'stalking'. It's funny, but the similarities between you and her are remarkable: "I'm not stalking you" ... "you're not worth it", etc. And yet your fixation with me is pasted all over this forum. Ironically, she's exceeded even you in the 'volume-by-time' forumla! Now, and to your later point: please, point out to me where I've not practiced what I've preached

Ian it is not this person's behaviour that is at issue, it is yours. You treat everyone who does not bow to your view of the world with the same jaded cynicism. You seem completely unaware of the rage you engender in people when you persist, after being asked to DESIST, in treating them exactly the same way their abusers did. I know you are not a stupid man, and I know you know very well the mechanisms used by cult leaders including revival pastors to make people doubt their own mind. You use exactly the same tactics.

Now, unless you have some bizarre pathology that gets you excited when you further abuse already abused people, then you must be completely unaware of what you are doing.

You never answer the questions levelled at you, you always deflect onto the behaviour of others.


I would be interested to hear though why you think that putting the boot into a rape victim is supposed to inspire potential revival leavers to trust you in any way. Alleged rape victim, given that all we have is a series of anonymous
allegations, after all. It's interesting, but my challenges to AN&S have all focussed on her clearly atrocious and hypocritical behaviour; in other words, on her conduct here. You complain about me "putting in the boot" to her, and yet you apparently are blissfully oblivious to how frequently and stridently she's "slipped the toe in" to others, me included. It must be nice having two standards. Anyway, given that you've expressed an interest I'll share a little information with you. I receive between 20 and 40 emails from people seeking my advice on Revivaistl issues per week, and have done so for years. Apparently they do trust me.

Does it justify your behaviour more if you say "alleged", further questioning this person's honesty? Do you really think you are the only honest person left in the world, because that is certianly the impression you give. Ian you set yourself up as a leader and christian teacher on this forum, and you should know that power requires requires responsibility, but you don't take it. We have had many many previous discussions about your snide and derisive behaviour, that need not be revisited,  it stands here for all to see unless you get your mate to delete it :) You look down your nose at everyone who disagrees with you, I still am having trouble finding a scripture reference that justifies that behaviour.

And frankly I don't care if you get five thousand emails a week. One very quick reading of this forum shows you to be as rude, judgmental and completely lacking in compassion as the average revival pastor. What a waste of your intelligence and potential.




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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 8:06 PM)

Tracey, et al,

Do you really think this is an appropriate forum to be discussing matters of sexual abuse in the first place? If you don't want interjections from theologians etc. then have your conversations somewhere else. You're on dangerous legal ground for starters not to mention you are coming across as nutters which helps none of the alleged victims, in fact you're doing more harm than good.
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 8:16 PM)

AN&S,

Look you twisted maniac - I am discussing serious issues pertaining to RAPE carried out by a CAI/RCI pastor. So you allege. Why are you constantly imposing yourself in this topic? Given that you've consistently included me in the ongoing discussion, I think my presence here to be quite reasonable. Can you still not see how utterly evil your behaviour to me is? Just because my challenges seem evil to you, doesn't mean that they actually are evil. Consider, from my perspective the fact that your profession of Christianity is completely at odds with how you've presented yourself here also qualifies to my mind as being 'evil'. What entitles you to demand that your perception equals reality at the expense of mine?

And. THIS TOPIC HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT I AM A CHRISTIAN. Of course it does. After all it was you who introduced the comparisons to begin with! To the CAI false-claimants first, and to me later. You are the most warped human being I've ever had the displeasure to meet. Really? Given previous accusations, I would've though AV would've topped the list. Leave me alone. Leave you alone?! Wasn't it you who threatened to 'wear me out'? Didn't you make the claim to being my 'match' in debate, and my better in both intelligence and qualifications?

Ian


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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 8:38 PM)

Tracey,

Now, and to your later point: please, point out to me where I've not practiced what I've preached.

Ian it is not this person's behaviour that is at issue, it is yours. You treat everyone who does not bow to your view of the world with the same jaded cynicism. Au contraire, but it is AN&S's behaviour that's at issue. She came to this forum making charged allegations whilst 'screaming' for justice, but she clearly wasn't prepared to extend a measure of justice to others. When challenged to be more moderate in her behaviour, AN&S set about lauding her Christian standing, her intelligence, her debating skills and her qualifications above those few CAI leaders with whom she was acquainted, and later still, towards me. Unfortunately for her, she misjudged her capacities, and her audience, rather badly. I fully acknowledge that I do become somewhat cynical upon encountering a 'product' that simply doesn't live up to it's (self) promoted, overly boastful 'hype'. Caveat emptor.

You seem completely unaware of the rage you engender in people when you persist, after being asked to DESIST, in treating them exactly the same way their abusers did. I'm a firm believer in treating the 'goose' the same as she treats the 'gander'. Such is befitting of a discussion revolving around the central issue of justice. You never answer the questions levelled at you, you always deflect onto the behaviour of others. I think I've responded more than adequately to AN&S' queries. By the same token I've posed a few of my own, asking her to justify several of her statements and allegations, and yet here I am, still waiting ... Does it justify your behaviour more if you say "alleged", further questioning this person's honesty? Given that all that this person has presented to date are vague, unproven, unestablished and anonymous allegations, I believe it perfectly appropriate and reasonable to append the qualifier, 'alleged' to her claims. We have had many many previous discussions about your snide and derisive behaviour, that need not be revisited,  it stands here for all to see unless you get your mate to delete it :) I think the Moderator knows his own mind much better than you presume. In any case I reckon I come off looking the regular 'angel' when compared to your behaviour towards others here over the years, not least with respect to your most recent and puerile: "I'll flood this forum with porn if you don't stop" nonsense ... You look down your nose at everyone who disagrees with you, I still am having trouble finding a scripture reference that justifies that behaviour. Since when did you care a 'gypsies' for Scripture? I evaluate the comments of others against a set of (what must seem silly to you) criteria, including: (1) logical consistency, (2) factuality, (3) historical validity and precedent, and (4) alignment to scriptural teaching. Consequently I won't be apologising for dismissing yours and her emotive rants as being of far lesser worth.

And frankly I don't care if you get five thousand emails a week. One very quick reading of this forum shows you to be as rude, judgmental and completely lacking in compassion as the average revival pastor. What a waste of your intelligence and potential. And yet my approach succeeds. Revivalists of every stripe are content enough to contact me seeking advice, or help or guidance. How many have ever approached you?

In short, 'blind people living in glass houses ought not be hefting rocks'.

Goose.

Ian


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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:11/11/2010 9:59 PM)

Tracey, AN&S,

As an observer, I have to say:

Do you not see that the original thread was a denial of natural (let alone Xian) justice? We have a legal system for a reason.

While I don't deny that an offence and hurt occurred, do you not see that Defence Counsel would likely destroy the credibility of AN&S based on her practise of responding ("ballistically") to what she *thinks* Ian has written rather than the facts of what he *has* written? (That is her posts go "ballisitc" when she is questioned.)

Seriously ... this is a matter for (a) the legal system, (b) professional counselling. This forum is neither.
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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 1:40 AM)

just one question: what does this Ian have to do with this particular CAI forum? He's not been in the CAI, doesn't know the stories and people's experiences.

It's just a typical case of a busy-body making himself looking knowledeable and important - just an aged man suffering from loads of complexes mulptiplied by being hugely inlove with himself. Just like ASW.

Just ignore him, don't waste your nerves and energy.
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 3:36 AM)

Guest,

just one question: what does this Ian have to do with this particular CAI forum? He's not been in the CAI, doesn't know the stories and people's experiences. Here's one answer: AN&S has never been in the CAI either! Unlike her, however, I've had a fair bit to do with helping some former CAI people, and I also played a role in exposing ASW's lies and nonsense over the years. I guess this 'entitles' me. It's just a typical case of a busy-body making himself looking knowledeable and important - just an aged man suffering from loads of complexes mulptiplied by being hugely inlove with himself. Just like ASW. Just like ASW? Except for the following facts: I'm a 'boyish' 42; I'm also tall, dark, handsome, heterosexual and athletic. And then there's the most obvious difference: I am knowledgeable!

Goose.

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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 6:03 AM)

Ian,

just another question if you dont mind: have you nothing better else to do with you life than to sit in this forum, chat with anonymous people, proving your point of view for unidentified and unidentifiable anonimous characters? The word "saaaaaaaaaaaaaad" strikes the mind :) You are 42 yrs old, you have got beaches in Australia, you probably have children and a wife - why not spending your time with them instead?

ASW was very good as well at making an impression of a knowledgable person, believe it or not. And he was quite good at it. He was also trying to express himself in similar "flowery" (dont know if you can say this in English, I am not an English speaker) sophisticated language. So that you are writing about yourself that you (quote) "ARE knowledgeble"  should be taken at face value in this forum? :) The fact that you are writing this about your yourself stressing the verb "are" puts a smile on my face :)

Anyways... gotta run - have better and more interesting things to do in and with my life than sitting in a forum chatting to anomimous people :). Cheerio!

the same Guest.

P.S. hope my bad English with (I would imagine) many grammatical mistakes and typing errors are not an offence to your refined ears
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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 9:43 AM)

Ian, I think enough people have posted here to show how totally unacceptable are the ways in which you have dealt with this person. And since these are now 'anonymous' allegations, you really should stop with your invasive rants against her.

You have completely twisted the topic of this around to make it all about you - because only Ian exists in Ian's sad little world.

You really are a sad case, as the guest pointed out.

But you will go on with your sickening treatment because that's the kind of person you are - who dares to set himself up as some kind of Apostle for Christ.

You are a fake and a fraud.

You hide behind your role as an Apologist against Revivialism but your spirit remains the same as it was when you entered the cult all those years ago.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see you employing the same techniques that CAI and Revivalists do against those who oppose them.





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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 9:53 AM)

Ian, just a few words from the mighty Bob Dylan (otherwise known as Zimmerman). His words reflect much on what my friend has been subject to here.  I'd guess it will all sound as gibberish to you, as you have not a poetic or artistic bone in your body. You are nothing but a clanging cymbal - devoid of love - 1 Corinthians, 13.

'My love she speaks like silence
Without ideals or violence
She doesn't have to say she's faithful
Yet she's true, like ice, like fire.

People carry roses
Make promises by the hours
My love she laughs like the flowers
Valentines can't buy her.

In the dime stores and bus stations
People talk of situations
Read books, repeat quotations,
Draw conclusions on the wall
Some speak of the future
My love she speaks softly
She knows there's no success like failure
And that failure's no success at all.

The cloak and dagger dangles
Madams light the candles
In ceremonies of the horsemen
Even the pawn must hold a grudge
Statues made of match sticks
Crumble into one another
My love winks, she does not bother
She knows too much to argue or to judge

The bridge at midnight trembles
The country doctor rambles
Bankers' nieces seek perfection
Expecting all the gifts that wise men bring
The wind howls like a hammer
The night blows cold and rainy
My love she's like some raven
At my window with a broken wing. 

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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 9:57 AM)

More Dylan:
 
'How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
Yes, and, how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, and, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 10:01 AM)

'I've just reached a place
Where the willow don't bend
There's not much more to be said
It's the top of the end
I'm going
I'm going
I'm gone

I'm closing the book
On the pages and the text
And I don't really care
What happens next
I'm just going
I'm going
I'm gone

I been hangin' on threads
I been playing' it straight
Now, I've just got to cut loose
Before it gets late
So I'm going
I'm going
I'm gone.

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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 10:03 AM)

'Come writers and critics
Who prophezise with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 11:45 AM)

Really, Tommo? I thought this forum was for ALL matters pertaining to CAI/RCI etc. Where does it say 'apart from those issues pertaining to sexual abuse?' 

If that is the case then the people involved in this site should make it CLEAR that sexual abuse is not a topic up for discussion, but given that Williams - leader of CAI  in more than one country - is facing over 20 charges for SEXUAL ABUSE, then don't you think it is a legitimate topic of conversation?

And, the only 'nutters' here are people like yourself and Ian who come across as people who have never actually left CAI/RCI!

You don't fool everyone.
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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 11:48 AM)

Oh yes, Ian et al, let's deny that sexual abuse has every occurred in the CAI/RCI.

Let's just keep the topic on the 'nice' and easy theme of theology.

That's so much easier to deal with isn't it?

Well - wake up!

Many, many people HAVE been sexually abused by CAI/RCI pastors and it's time you all realised this.

Oh, go on - bury your heads in the sand, like the ostriches you all are.

Some of us will NEVER accept these things and will NEVER shut up about them, so what are you going to do about it?

Live in denial for the rest of your sorry lives.
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 6:46 PM)

To, "the same guest".

just another question if you dont mind: have you nothing better else to do with you life than to sit in this forum, chat with anonymous people, proving your point of view for unidentified and unidentifiable anonimous characters? The word "saaaaaaaaaaaaaad" strikes the mind :) You are 42 yrs old, you have got beaches in Australia, you probably have children and a wife - why not spending your time with them instead? Well, I do. The total time that I'd spend actively engaging with people on this forum would amount to probably an hour and a half a day. I'm a great 'multi-tasker', you see.

ASW was very good as well at making an impression of a knowledgable person, believe it or not. And he was quite good at it. I'd suggest only to people who were (1) quite gullible, (2) biblically illiterate, and, (3) very easily led. He was also trying to express himself in similar "flowery" (dont know if you can say this in English, I am not an English speaker) sophisticated language. So that you are writing about yourself that you (quote) "ARE knowledgeble"  should be taken at face value in this forum? :) 'Nope'. I always challenge people to test my ideas, and try to prove me wrong. If they can, then I'll repent. But if they can't, who should be reconsidering his/her viewpoint, eh? The fact that you are writing this about your yourself stressing the verb "are" puts a smile on my face :) Then I achieved what I'd hoped to achieve via my tongue-in-cheek quip!

Anyways... gotta run - have better and more interesting things to do in and with my life than sitting in a forum chatting to anomimous people :) Apparently ... not. P.S. hope my bad English with (I would imagine) many grammatical mistakes and typing errors are not an offence to your refined ears. 'Nah', I'm magnanimous enough to make allowance for non-English speakers ... and CAI 'folk' ... and unsophisticated people ... and unsophisticated, non-English speaking CAI 'folk' ... and

Ian


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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:12/11/2010 6:50 PM)

AN&S,

Wow! Both 'you' and 'you' have been quite busy ignoring me for these past few hours, huh?

Goose.

Ian


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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 1:53 AM)

Hi from the same European guest, Ian!

I start liking this conversation - "aj like zis" :) This is actually quite fun. Let's diagnose Ian's condition with a help of a few selected quotes from this thread - quite evident acutally. Everything below are quotes from Ian from the thread above:

I've had a fair bit to do with helping a few former CAI people,

I've played a role in exposing ASWover the years.

I'm a 'boyish' 42;

I'm also tall, dark, handsome, heterosexual and athletic.

I am knowledgeable!

I'm perfectly calm and in control of myself





:))) 


Greetings from Europe.

the same guest 

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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 2:11 AM)

Hi, "Same Guest".

'Yep', each one of those 'sound bites' is perfectly true. Impress me: demonstrate that you've grasped the genre and context for each, too.

Ian


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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 2:26 AM)

Hi from the same guest again,

and why would I need to impress you? Give me two good reasons, convinve me...

the "same guest" (.
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 4:19 AM)

To, "Same Guest".

and why would I need to impress you? Give me two good reasons, convinve me... Just the two? Okay, (1) given that you seem very keen to engage me, I can only assume that you wish to learn from me. This being the case, you need to demonstrate to me that you're worth the effort. And, (2) I'm someone who can teach you. Given your CAI background, I think it evident that you've not had too many 'religious' figures who can back up such a 'bold' claim! There are other possible reasons, of course: (3) my razor wit has drawn you in, (4) my engaging charm compels you to seek my affirmation, and (5) you're awestruck by my confident personality and superior intellect.

So, which of these fits?

Ian

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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 4:46 AM)

Hi from the "same guest",

so where shall we start? :)

(quote) you wish to learn from me.

Where does that come from, is it sort of wishful thinking?

(quote) This being the case

?! :)))))))

(quote) Given your CAI background

You know my background?! Me is impressed

(quote) my razor wit has drawn you in

Sorry, me English is not good enough to understand this, online translator couldn't either. Can thou rephrase?

(quote)  my engaging charm compels you to seek my affirmation

And why should I be doing that (i.e. seek your confirmation)?

(quote) you're awestruck by my confident personality and superior intellect

*laaaaaaaaaaaaughing*


Naaaaa, Ian, ain't good enuff.... Try harder.

"I like zis!"

the same guest








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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 4:53 AM)

To, "Same Guest".

Well, clearly you were mistaken. I suppose I should let 'bygones be bygones', then, and wish you begone.

hoo, roo.

Ian
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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 5:19 AM)

To, "Ian".

(quote) Well, clearly you were mistaken.

I am never mistaken. I am intelligent, enlightened, balanced, tall, blond, handsome, heterosexual and athletic. And, besides, I'm  perfectly calm and in control of myself.

(quote) wish you begone

Keep calm, Ian... Keep caaaaaalm :)))))


Cherio!

I pozitifly lajk zis!
 
the same guest



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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 5:29 AM)

To, "Same Guest".

Well, clearly you were mistaken. I am never mistaken. I see. You confused me with this statement: "Anyways... gotta run - have better and more interesting things to do in and with my life than sitting in a forum chatting to anomimous people :)" Anyhoo ... I am intelligent, enlightened, balanced, tall, blond, handsome, heterosexual and  athletic. And, besides, I'm  perfectly calm and in control of myself. Given this list of admirable qualities (less being heterosexual), I reckon you must've been a 'hit' with ASW ;)

Ian

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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 5:52 AM)

To, "Ian".

(quote) you must've been a 'hit' with ASW

What is "ASW"? I know only "NSW" (a state in Australia) or "NRW" (a Bundesland in West Germany). There is also "NRG" (kinda slang for "energy"). Is this "ASW" some kinda just as enlightened and knowledgable friend of yours? Me is perplext.

Me positifly likes zis! :)))))

Cheerio!

the same guest 
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Re:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 6:40 AM)

Oh god, Same Guest, please stop this crap. You're looking like a total dickhead.

If you don't know who ASW is then get the hell out of a CAI discussion forum!

It hurts my eyes to read this petty stuff
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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 7:40 AM)

It's Anton ("from Tirol") istn't it?!!??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Erwin R.
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(Date Posted:13/11/2010 6:01 PM)

Reply to Guest

Hi from the same European guest, Ian!

I start liking this conversation - "aj like zis" :) This is actually quite fun. Let's diagnose Ian's condition with a help of a few selected quotes from this thread - quite evident acutally. Everything below are quotes from Ian from the thread above:

Lets keep it simple for the sake of the children.....This is Ian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGvD5OSkJ_Q


Ian is a perfect example of light traveling faster than the speed of sound



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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 6:05 PM)

"Same Guest",

Your diagnosis would have far more credibility if you used the DSM IV(TR) or the PDM. As it is, I think you've exposed your hand.

כמובן שאתה אידיוט

Goose.

Ian

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RE:Anonymous allegations
(Date Posted:13/11/2010 7:40 PM)

Puerile banter.

I think this thread has run its course.

- Moddy


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