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What is a Revival Church?
Typically, the Revival churches mentioned on this forum include all branches of the Revival 'family tree', although the various churches of the 'tree' do not recognise or talk to each other. They include 'The Revival Fellowship, The Revival Centres International, the Geelong Revival Centre, The Christian Assemblies International, and the many offshoots that carry the 'Revival' doctrine on with them.
In the 1940s ex-AOG pastors led by Leo C. Harris, were convinced of the British 'Israel theory' and formed the National Revival Crusade. They believed modern nations of British decent should realise their 'Israelite identity'. They also believed that the belief in Jesus, alongside with the 'Holy Spirit' experience of 'speaking in tongues' (ecstatic speech - glossolalia) was essential to be 'Christian' and a member of 'the' church. Baptism by full immersion into water was also mandatory.
Noel Hollins and Lloyd Longfield (neither trained in theology or ministry) rose through the ranks as the church evolved into the 'Revival Centres of Australia'. They believe themselves to be the only 'true' church and all others are 'apostate'.
Being a Revivalist
In the main, Revival Churches share the following beliefs with slight variations between them:
- All members must exercise free vocalisation (speaking in tongues), a new 'language' of random morphemes that only God understands.
- All members must read a creed of beliefs before being fully immersed into a 'baptismal tank'.
- Revivalists believe that once someone is saved, they are always saved, but if Jesus returns and finds them 'slacking', they might not 'make it'.
Assembly rules and doctrines
- Members must only marry other church members
- Members are not allowed to read the material of other churches
- Members discovered to have had sex outside of marriage are ex-communicated, or banned for six months, or made to marry.
- Divorce is unacceptable under any condition
- Women are not allowed to deliver talks (sermons)
- Members are not allowed to drink alcohol of any sort.
- 10%, at least, of members' incomes are encouraged to be donated weekly.
- Members can be excommunicated for varying amounts of time for breaking various rules.
- The shunning of ex-members is encouraged.
- Easter and Christmas are not to be celebrated with any religious connection.
Revival Centre meetings
- Generally meetings are held Wednesday and twice Sunday, house-meetings on Friday, and all are compulsory.
- Meetings start with a half hour of religious choruses (short ditties) finishing with a hymn. Then there are 2 or 3 testimonies, and a 45 minute talk.
- The second half of the meeting contains the eating and drinking of the 'communal' body and blood of Christ, after another 'talk'.- Youth group on Saturday nights - compulsory.
- Regular 'fasting' - Members go without eating for up to 3 days culminating with a 5 hour meeting of sermons and tongue speaking sessions.Other Revival beliefs- British Israelism - Europeans are believed to be descendants of the 'lost ten tribes of Israel'.- Bible Numerics - the mathematics of bible words to prove their doctrine and the bible.
- The very 'soon' destruction of the earth when Jesus returns to set up his new kingdom.
- The Great Pyramid is a prophetic device foretelling the soon return of Jesus.
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We don't really want to be bothered by Scientology lawyers and lawsuits because of posted copyrighted material. There are plenty of sites that already host those documents and they can be linked to. Posting "Fair Use" snippets is ok if you want to refer to something to make a point, just don't go posting the entire "History of Man".
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In this group of ex Revival church members we are bound to run into people who we knew in our former "lives" as Revivalists. Given the violations of privacy already rampant in the church it is quite likely that you may know of some personally embarrassing information about another poster.
For example: you may have known poster "John" in the church and know that he had gotten into trouble for gambling or theft or promiscuity etc. To bring up these personally embarrassing things (whether true or not) as some sort of one-upmanship or as a form of retaliation in an argument is really bad form and will not be tolerated on this message board.
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Instead of copying and pasting long pieces of text, snip the bit you want and link to the rest. Experience shows that the longer your post is the less likely it will be read anyway. Of course if your post (your own words) is quite long because you are telling your personal story, that is different. Personal stories will be always be read no matter how long they are because people are interested.
Media articles may need to be copied in full as the original article often disappears into the archives of the website after a week or two and some get deleted altogether.
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By its nature, this board is likely to attract its share of trouble makers. Trolls thrive on attention so the best thing you can do is to ignore them and report any offending post to a moderator who will deal with the situation. Getting into flame wars with a troll is exactly what they want you to do, so don't give them the satisfaction.
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Promotion of Revival churches and their doctrines will not be tolerated for long. You may be allowed to visit our forum and engage for a period of time, but please understand that Revival proselytization will not be tolerated. Get the hint and move on when you've said your piece. The forum is not here for endless arguments with current members of Revival churches or apologists thereof.
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- if the ban was mistakenly given