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(Date Posted:20/11/2010 4:50 PM)
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To Christmas,or not to Christmas–that is the question:

Whether 'tis nobler in the world to to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous Zealots, Or to take arms against a sea of Religions And,by opposing,end them taking the term Christmas back......Or not? I don't care it's your religion not mine that is losing Christmas to the term HOLIDAY. He's just Jesus. He'll understand.

In the grc we were not allowed to give gifts etc. (except for the elders who someone saw receiving gifts at camp) and take time to have a PARTY!! WHoOOOOooo! And the minority in this country would love to sell jesus out to be politically correct. It's really a form of control. But I don't care that much I have only a small dog in this fight. And again it's not my lord and saviour. Mine is a tuna sandwich. No make that roast beef today.

So do you wish people a Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays?" Or do you find the whole thing about having a day for him just wrong? (like in the grc) I just like that there is this conflict amongst groups of people who all swear that they are really really into PEACE but we see their actions don't match this words. Religion is a choice. Unlike skin colour (except for Michael Jackson) or gender....except for Chastity Bono. height....... (no you can break your bones and make taller) or hair colour, nope eye colour, nope that's do able with contacts and the white of the eyes can be changed to blue or red (Freaky)

OK... we can change a lot about us now.  But religion is a choice So pointing out faults in ones own religion or another's religion is OK. Isn't this the point of these chat rooms? I've been looking for Santa in the bible but I cannot find him. Yes Ian we all know we could all greet another accordingly to what we know or find out through observation whom we are wishing to greet with our holiday greeting or not to greet and we all know the debate of which day and month Jesus was born or not born or even if he was born ion and in and yes he was Jewish and who the St. Nick and Santa Clause was and the the stories of the stocking and holiday tree and holidays lights and gifts..blah blah blah blah blah bite my shiny metal arse.

we all just want to know whatreallyhappened....com right?
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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:20/11/2010 6:00 PM)

To 'Simple (Minded) Free-Thinking Christmas' Guy.

Sorry, but there are limits to my intelligence; and to be perfectly frank, I simply couldn't follow your ramble. Was there ever a point to it? Or was that missing from the very beginning, along with the paragraphs?

Goose.

Ian

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:22/11/2010 12:14 AM)

Here's somthing I couldn't say when I was in the GRC, so here it is for you all
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
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(Date Posted:22/11/2010 12:35 AM)

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Here's somthing I couldn't say when I was in the GRC, so here it is for you all
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!


Thankyou, and same to you.
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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:22/11/2010 11:39 AM)

  And a Very Merry Christmas to you

Here is a gift to watch and see what is really going on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U71-KsDArFM

This is the way the world works not.

P.S. Have a Happy New Year!!!
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(Date Posted:22/11/2010 2:36 PM)

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Here's somthing I couldn't say when I was in the GRC, so here it is for you all
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!


Thankyou, and same to you.

Love the Red & Green touch.

Merry Xmas to all.
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(Date Posted:23/11/2010 6:23 AM)

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Here's somthing I couldn't say when I was in the GRC, so here it is for you all
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!





Eric

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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:24/11/2010 9:25 PM)

After many months away from the forum, I see that Ian (who I thought had been "banished'' from the Ex GRC forum) has raised his ???? head.. What goes on there Moderator? I have read several posts of his and they do nothing but confirm to me that he is a pompous,arrogant man who obviously loves to display his self important intelligence to all of us who read these posts. I for one think that it is just down right rude to berate and abuse people because they may happen to have an opinion contrary to his own.I see he has signed some posts off aggressively and there is just NO need. I remember when I first came to this forum looking for help and ENCOURAGEMENT that was what I received on the most part, I think I would have run a mile if I had of had Ian attack one of my posts which were mainly questions earlier on in the piece.
 Ian,  not all of us are sub human intellects,you should have some humility and patience and that is the least I would expect from one such as you our religious guru (tongue definitely in cheek comment ). Just go and take your frustration out on a boxing bag rather than those of us who only wish to make a comment.

Now readers, let's see what abuse gets hurled my way :-)

LITSR
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(Date Posted:24/11/2010 9:54 PM)

LITSR,

After many months away from the forum, I see that Ian (who I thought had been "banished'' from the Ex GRC forum) has raised his ???? head.. What goes on there Moderator? It must be hard you keeping up, being 'many months away from the forum' and all. In the interest of bringing you up-to-date, here's the goss: the Moderator invited me back, and lifted the previous 'check' preventing me from treading on your precious wittle toes. I suppose our fearless captain reflected on the fact that the GRC-only forum had historically been a 'lifeless' place, and I'm just the sort of person to offer it a little (much needed imho) CPR/EAR!  I have read several posts of his and they do nothing but confirm to me that he is a pompous, arrogant man who obviously loves to display his self important intelligence to all of us who read these posts. Obviously. I for one think that it is just down right rude to berate and abuse people because they may happen to have an opinion contrary to his own. And I for one think you must suffer ignorant twits such as 'Free Thinker' better than I. This probably results from you having to do so much less frequently than me ('more power' to you). I see he has signed some posts off aggressively and there is just NO need. I remember when I first came to this forum looking for help and ENCOURAGEMENT that was what I received on the most part, I think I would have run a mile if I had of had Ian attack one of my posts which were mainly questions earlier on in the piece. Aggressively?! Okay: Grrrrrr ... Anyway, my practice here has always been to answer honest questions with honest answers. However, I will more than readily engage with and debate the more duplicitous, opinionated and self-righteous of correspondents. I consider this capacity a gift, actually. As for the 'legging it' bit, you can feel free to 'run a mile' now if you want. Or alternatively, you might perhaps whine a little less and engage a little more?

Ian, not all of us are sub human intellects, you should have some humility and patience and that is the least I would expect from one such as you our religious guru (tongue definitely in cheek comment ). You're perfectly correct, not all of you have 'sub-human' intellects. Two, no! Three of you are quite astute and thoughtful in the way they engage with others 'outside the circle', which is something that I, for one, appreciate. In any case I must have more humility and patience than you credit me with, given that I'm feeling graciously inclined towards humouring little ol' you at the moment. Just go and take your frustration out on a boxing bag rather than those of us who only wish to make a comment. But I'm not frustrated, nor am I in the slightest ill-at-ease. People are always free to comment, as am I. Isn't the democratic approach of this forum grand?!

Now readers, let's see what abuse gets hurled my way :-) Abuse? Nah, I'd much prefer to offer you a little constructive criticism instread: think before you type. (1) You'll come off looking smarter; (2) it will facilitate much better communication; and (3) we all stand to learn something from each other.

Oh, and stop sucking on those lemons; they'll make you all yellow and bitter!

Ian

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 1:40 AM)

LTISR

Congratulations, you have just managed to demonstrate exactly what has killed this forum. The response to your post was exactly as expected, the schoolyard bully (or junkyard dog) was just waiting around the corner. All he wants to do is engage......and throw a couple of insults at you to see if you'll take the challenge.


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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 1:45 AM)

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Congratulations, you have just managed to demonstrate exactly what has killed this forum. The response to your post was exactly as expected, the schoolyard bully (or junkyard dog) was just waiting around the corner. All he wants to do is engage......and throw a couple of insults at you to see if you'll take the challenge.





Doesn't leave you disappointed then does it?

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(Date Posted:25/11/2010 2:17 AM)

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LTISR

Congratulations, you have just managed to demonstrate exactly what has killed this forum. The response to your post was exactly as expected, the schoolyard bully (or junkyard dog) was just waiting around the corner. All he wants to do is engage......and throw a couple of insults at you to see if you'll take the challenge.




Hi lemons? or what that be LITSR?
In what way do you believe this forum is dead?
I find it interesting and it useful personally, and there has been quite a bit of activity lately.
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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 2:17 AM)

So... LITSR, you're not here to discuss Christmas then?

Better to discuss how Ian engages people and provoke more of exactly what you don't want, right?  'Cause, what we certainly need more of around here are Ian-centric discussions! How about this for all the Ian-haters. Here's a hint for you if you don't want to engage him. Ignore him. It actually works. I"m gonna ignore him throughout this thread and see what happens.

And he's far from 'killed' the forum. The place would stagnate without him, and I've seen and measured the activity the place generates when Ian's not around.

Stay tuned for more. And really, the original post was completely bewildering. Ian called it, in his own special way.


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(Date Posted:25/11/2010 5:39 AM)

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So... LITSR, you're not here to discuss Christmas then?

Better to discuss how Ian engages people and provoke more of exactly what you don't want, right?  'Cause, what we certainly need more of around here are Ian-centric discussions! How about this for all the Ian-haters. Here's a hint for you if you don't want to engage him. Ignore him. It actually works. I"m gonna ignore him throughout this thread and see what happens.

And he's far from 'killed' the forum. The place would stagnate without him, and I've seen and measured the activity the place generates when Ian's not around.

Stay tuned for more. And really, the original post was completely bewildering. Ian called it, in his own special way.

Ianos: PAR EXCELLENCE !!!

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(Date Posted:25/11/2010 2:42 PM)

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So... LITSR, you're not here to discuss Christmas then?

Better to discuss how Ian engages people and provoke more of exactly what you don't want, right?  'Cause, what we certainly need more of around here are Ian-centric discussions! How about this for all the Ian-haters. Here's a hint for you if you don't want to engage him. Ignore him. It actually works. I"m gonna ignore him throughout this thread and see what happens.

And he's far from 'killed' the forum. The place would stagnate without him, and I've seen and measured the activity the place generates when Ian's not around.

Stay tuned for more. And really, the original post was completely bewildering. Ian called it, in his own special way.

Hi mothandrust: I do not think that it is accurate to say that those people who oppose the views expressed by Ian are "Ian haters" by virtue of their opposition to his pov.

I for one appreciate his academic learning and presentaion of the text however disagree with his version of the gospel. I am sure that his probably a nice enough guy. I am not suprised at his sometimes (seemingly)
impatient language given the kind of attacks he is subject to.

There is a huge difference between a (seemingly) scripturally correct way of life and a deeply spiritual life. The thrust of the message of Jesus is strive to excel in the former and the latter. The doctrine of Ian and orthodox religion leads only to the former and will never achieve the latter.

This is evidenced by the nature expressed by Ian and many of the legallistic Revivalists you have on this forum. The cold truth of the matter is that a spiritually healthy person will probably not find thenselves on this forum at all because they would be directing their energy toward saving souls.

This is not mean't to judge anyone but is is a Biblical truth non the less.

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(Date Posted:25/11/2010 3:36 PM)

Lemons,

Congratulations, you have just managed to demonstrate exactly what has killed this forum. The response to your post was exactly as expected, the schoolyard bully (or junkyard dog) was just waiting around the corner. All he wants to do is engage......and throw a couple of insults at you to see if you'll take the challenge. I guess I fell right into your carefully crafted 'trap' (I just never saw it coming). Your little GRC-only clique on this forum is long dead. It was dying when I chose to let it RIP, it expired shortly thereafter, and it's been something of a corpse since. I'll admit to finding it rather ironic that the likes of you and 'Mot' blame me for stifling conversation, noting that in the year plus that I stayed out and left you 'goonies' alone, you all struggled to cobble together something that even remotely resembled a discussion.

In closing, all you lot seem to be good at is whinging to, moaning about, and blaming others. It's as if you need a scapegoat for your failings.

Goose.

Ian

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 3:49 PM)

Good morning, Jingles.

Hi mothandrust: I do not think that it is accurate to say that those people who oppose the views expressed by Ian are "Ian haters" by virtue of their opposition to his pov. Neither does M&R. The 'haters' are a specific sub-class of poster here, and not simply those who would disagree with me because they don't know better.

There is a huge difference between a (seemingly) scripturally correct way of life and a deeply spiritual life. The thrust of the message of Jesus is strive to excel in the former and the latter. The doctrine of Ian and orthodox religion leads only to the former and will never achieve the latter. Au contraire my grossly mistaken friend. What passes for 'spirituality' in Revivalism is naught but shallow delusion. And, if you were to take the time to read through the many threads on this forum, you'd likely discover the occasional snippet that I've shared pertaining to my own spirituality, the effects that such generates in my life and in the lives of others, and the spiritual disciplines that I engage in daily. Put simply, it would be difficult for you to be any further from the truth of the matter. This is evidenced by the nature expressed by Ian and many of the legallistic Revivalists you have on this forum. The cold truth of the matter is that a spiritually healthy person will probably not find thenselves on this forum at all because they would be directing their energy toward saving souls. Really? Well this 'spiritually deficient and apparently legalistic' person has led about 400-odd Revivalists to Christ over the past 15 years, and has discipled a similar number of non-Revivalists over the same period. I reckon that's not a particularly bad effort at directing one's energy towards the saving of souls.

This is not mean't to judge anyone but is is a Biblical truth non the less. No, it isn't actually. It's an uninformed comment made by one who is clearly ignorant of both Christian history and Christian practice. The very fact that you would promote 'Revivalism' is, itself, proof positive that you simply don't understand the most basic tenets of biblical truth. Consequently, you might wish to spend a little more time seeking after the facts, rather than defending Revivalist fictions.

Ian

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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 4:04 PM)

 

 

All you lot seem to be good at is whinging to, moaning about, and blaming others. It's as if you need a scapegoat for your failings.

 

Ian,

 

Nothing changes. Same thing when I was in GRC. Thirty odd years ago

 

RH

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(Date Posted:25/11/2010 7:43 PM)

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There is a huge difference between a (seemingly) scripturally correct way of life and a deeply spiritual life. The thrust of the message of Jesus is strive to excel in the former and the latter. The doctrine of Ian and orthodox religion leads only to the former and will never achieve the latter.

mj


Omigosh, are you kidding me with the 'spiritual' life of your garden variety Revivalist? By deeply spiritual, do you mean you have the ability to close your eyes for lengths of time while muttering random sounds and thinking godly thoughts? If that's the case there are monks who do better jobs of meditation.

Or do you mean that the Spirit gives Revivalists more guidance to go out into the 'world' and help the sick, poor and destitute? The Salvos are doing a much more spiritual job shining some Jesus than whatever socially helpful schemes the odd Revival fellowship are able to put together. The 'spirituality' of Revivalism doesn't lead them to do anything other then trying to herd people back to their halls where they can be fed with Revival doctrines and coached in tongues in the hope that such a process will sort 'em out.

Or maybe by 'spiritual' you mean that the simple leading of the spirit throughout your walk with Jesus and his teachings ala the Revival way makes you more spiritual because you're following Lloyd's doctrine, and have the unique and special knowledge of British Israel, Bible Numerics, Pyramidology, historist End times prophesy, and the ancient practice of glossalalia?

I was in the Revival church for 17 years and my mother (a Catholic - SHOCK) was more spiritual... more god loving and more people caring, than any pastor or lacky I'd ever met in Revival. TBH, I'm not really sure what you mean by 'deeply spiritual' in the context of Revivalism. We would have been persecuted for closing our eyes during a hymn. If by spiritual you mean you're lead by the spirit to do good work and not fornicate all over the place, then there's cults such as the JWs who can follow the rule book and try not to lie, cheat and murder.

Spiritual? If you mean Revivalists are more spiritual because you love your interpretation of the bible, than I recommend reading any of the articles by a number of authors who have contributed to this site who have very successfully answered the many scriptural aberrations that Revivalist have called doctrines for the last 60 odd years.


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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 10:08 PM)

A couple of points guys, firstly for Ian:

When you say “What passes for 'spirituality' in Revivalism is naught but shallow delusion”.

I’m afraid you have misunderstood sir; I am neither revivalist nor an advocate of the same. All I am saying is that to point out the fact that revivalists “boat don’t float” does not then prove that your boat does.

As far as  you citing “if you were to take the time to read through the many threads on this forum, you'd likely discover the occasional snippet that I've shared pertaining to my own spirituality, the effects that such generates in my life and in the lives of others, and the spiritual disciplines that I engage in daily. Put simply, it would be difficult for you to be any further from the truth of the matter”.

To blow one's own trumpet in this regard akin to looking into the mirror and remarking to oneself “how good am I” Better; I suggest to have a peek at James 1:25-27 and temper that with 2nd Thessalonians 3:12.

Just an observation, I’m sure you believe you are abiding in both of these areas. But I caution you to avoid “Judging after the seeing of the eyes and hearing of the ears. Isaiah chapter 11


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Similarly to moth & rust:

When you say “Omigosh, are you kidding me with the 'spiritual' life of your garden variety Revivalist? By deeply spiritual, do you mean you have the ability to close your eyes for lengths of time while muttering random sounds and thinking godly thoughts? If that's the case there are monks who do better jobs of meditation”.

As I said to Ian I’m afraid you have misunderstood sir; I am neither revivalist nor an advocate of the same. All I am saying is that to point out the fact that revivalists “boat don’t float” does not then prove that yours does.

Have a good weekend guys, Please don’t take offence at my suggestion that we all have a way to go before we achieve perfection.

mj



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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 11:15 PM)

As I said to Ian I’m afraid you have misunderstood sir; I am neither revivalist nor an advocate of the same. All I am saying is that to point out the fact that revivalists “boat don’t float” does not then prove that yours does. Have a good weekend guys, Please don’t take offence at my suggestion that we all have a way to go before we achieve perfection.

Well I certainly can't take offence to such a suggestion because it's not perfection I'm striving for but a healthy happy life. I worry about some of the people who DO strive for 'perfection'. They're ususally nutters. And I'm not saying that because the Revivalist's boat doesn't float that mine does because my concept of spirituality is vastly from anybody elses.

And thankya MJ, this weekend I will have a good one. Report cards are finished and school is pretty much over. Now I've just got to babysit the kids for two weeks and do Christmas activities etc. Ya gotta love Xmas, and surely even Revivalists aren't poo pooing Xmas trees anymore... Meh, Noel probably still discourages the Chrissy celebrations though, hey? "Noel, Noel, Born is the king of Israel". Why did Santa spell Christmas N-O-E? Because the angel had said, "No L! Noel

See what I did there? I dove-tailed the post into the theme of the thread and added a Noel reference to acknowledge the GRC room it's in. Brilliant. That's me blowing my own trumpet.

See ya later crocodile. 

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(Date Posted:25/11/2010 11:21 PM)

 Hi MJ

To blow one's own trumpet in this regard akin to looking into the mirror and remarking to oneself “how good am I” Better; I suggest to have a peek at James 1:25-27 and temper that with 2nd Thessalonians 3:12.

You must have a *lot* of concern for Paul, then.

PS should we take it that you consider yourself to be "spiritually unhealthy" b/c you find yourself on this forum?




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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 11:22 PM)

Mr_ Jingles,

 

Most of us here know what “qualifications” and experience Ian has but may I ask, “what great victories do you have to your credit that you may expound and rightly divide the word of God?”

 

Just curious!

 

Ralph

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 11:29 PM)

I just got this following message from Galien. Did I really come across as nasty and stupid? I'm sorry if I did Mr Jingles. I just got triggered by the words "There is a huge difference between a (seemingly) scripturally correct way of  life and a deeply spiritual life." And I stupidly thought MR J was referring to Revivalism as deeply spiritual, when that may not have been what he was saying at all. It lead to a rant from myself that may have been inappropriate. Sorry. I kinda do that.



Omigosh, are you kidding me with the 'spiritual' life of your garden variety Revivalist? By deeply spiritual, do you mean you have the ability to close your eyes for lengths of time while muttering random sounds and thinking godly thoughts? If that's the case there are monks who do better jobs of meditation.

Oi, you are getting just as full of arrogance and assumption as your nasty little mate. Truth is you don't know what goes on on people'e hearts, and just because not much went onin yours, don't assume that holds true for everyone in revival.

I was in the Revival church for 17 years and my mother (a Catholic - SHOCK) was more spiritual... more god loving and more people caring, than any pastor or lacky I'd ever met in Revival. TBH, I'm not really sure what you mean by 'deeply spiritual' in the context of Revivalism. We would have been persecuted for closing our eyes during a hymn. If by spiritual you mean you're lead by the spirit to do good work and not fornicate all over the place, then there's cults such as the JWs who can follow the rule book and try not to lie, cheat and murder.

I think he means he actually gives a shit about god and others, something you have clearly forgotten how to do when it comes the sick little mini me of a revival centre you have allowed this forum to become.

Spiritual? If you mean Revivalists are more spiritual because you love your interpretation of the bible, than I recommend reading any of the articles by a number of authors who have contributed to this site who have very successfully answered the many scriptural aberrations that Revivalist have called doctrines for the last 60 odd years.

Some people actually love god with their all their heart, mind, soul and strength whether you understand that or have ever experienced it or not. Its way past time you stopped being such a judgemental prick towards people whose hearts you don't even know, and so well disposed towards that absolute XXX Thomason who obviously has no heart at all.

For an otherwise intelligent man, you are really really stupid when it comes to this.
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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 11:40 PM)

Mothy,

 

I got a bit of the same form Galien over a few comments I slipped up on. I didn’t respond as it would just be a waste of time with an explanation and one will never convince her otherwise. Wouldn’t get too uptight about it mates.

 

Ralph

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:25/11/2010 11:41 PM)

Moth, very impressive getting topic back. You should be a teacher.
As for Galien, how can you love God when you hate men, maybe she thinks he and Jesus were women?smiley6
And in my weak attempt to get back on topic, I am ex GRC and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
And now being serious, thankyou for your articulate replys re: spiritualism and revival, well said.
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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 12:04 AM)

Who watches the Watchmen? Galien does.

I can take criticism, but being contacted via facebook and in private messages here borders on harassment. Now some would feel they have to curtail what they say on the forum for fear of Ian's rebuttals AND Galien's rebukes from the sideline. Sheesh!
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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 1:41 AM)

Reply to MothandRust
Who watches the Watchmen? Galien does.

I can take criticism, but being contacted via facebook and in private messages here borders on harassment. Now some would feel they have to curtail what they say on the forum for fear of Ian's rebuttals AND Galien's rebukes from the sideline. Sheesh!

Moth,

Aaah, all these rebuttles and rebukes aside, I think you were on a roll rather than a rant and deserve recognition as having written a really good funny reply to Jingles -  maybe you should even be given a rave review or two.  It certainly shouldn't have resulted in the rearguard response it received from Galien.

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 2:23 AM)

Thanks
For a minute there I didn't think I was awesome.

'Twas a month before Christmas and all through the forum, not a creature was stirring, and Ian? Ignore 'im.

It still seems a little early to be getting all Christmassy, but meh... our lights are up, although the tree can wait until next weekend. I was using this thread to show Lemons how to ignore Ian and get a conversation going, but it looks like he's ignoring me more than I'm ignoring him. Either way, it's funny.

And by the way, Lemons. I'm sorry if I came over insensitively to you. You want to see the GRC taken to task and you think that Ian's input stifles that goal. I have to disagree. You seem to believe that there should be more members here continuously discussing Noel Hollins and the good ol' PTY LTD in the hope that it'll squeeze more souls out of their cold brick hall. The discussions ran their courses long ago and it's all been said.

Can I give you an example of that? Take the official GRC facebook group. It boasts 207 members and had quite the chat going during the Henderson months. How much has transpired there since those momentous times? Simon Hoogy-doo was very excited with all his new friends, but that dried up faster than a slurpie dropped on a summer sidewalk, and all without Ian's help.

Simon's a bit of a knucklehead though... really.

Is knucklehead a worse word than goose. I wonder.

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 4:18 AM)

Dear Dr Thomason

Sir, I understand that your nom de guerre means "able to teach", or words to that effect. Could you kindly cite one warrant in the words of Christ, or those of any of the apostles, for self-aggrandisement such as this?

This 'spiritually deficient and apparently legalistic' person has led about 400-odd Revivalists to Christ over the past 15 years, and has discipled a similar number of non-Revivalists over the same period. I reckon that's not a particularly bad effort at directing one's energy towards the saving of souls.

Nick Boccasino

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 4:23 AM)

Jingles,

'If it looks likes a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck', then, according to you, it just must be an elephant?! I don't think so.

Pete,

You're hard to ignore, bloke! Anyways, gotta love Tracey, huh? For someone who prates on ad infinitum about the 'judgmentalism' of others, and who tries to convince all and sundry that she knows and loves God with that big, black ol' heart heart of hers, she does a really good job of discrediting faith in the biblical Creator! Either that or she's mad keen to present a 'picture-perfect' example of what h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y looks like on steroids (or Ritilin)!

Ralph, Talmid, Epi and Rob,

Thanks for popping in and speaking your minds. I've missed your respective inputs, here.
And now, in order to make the circus complete, where's our 'Lukey'!

Blessings,

Ian

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 4:26 AM)

Benny,

Self-aggrandisement?! Nah, just 'answering the mail'. Do you think I should I be embarrassed for doing precisely what 'Jingles' accused me of not doing? If so, 'why'?

Blessings,

Ian

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 4:59 AM)

Am I missing something or did Ian call the original post a goose?

Thats not cool if that be the case

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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 5:29 AM)

Ralph, Talmid, Epi and Rob,

Thanks for popping in and speaking your minds. I've missed your respective inputs, here.
And now, in order to make the circus complete, where's our 'Lukey'!


Ian,

Mmm, I'm not really sure how to take this phrase. Are you saying that we all are a part of a circus???

Ralph.

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 6:25 AM)


Howdy gang:

In response to your comment....to wit "And now, in order to make the circus complete, where's our 'Lukey'!"

I'm always checking in to see what the head clown of the circus is up to.

Didn't take you long to get back on the forum Ian.
How was your holiday?

I take it Troy is not on the forum any more.... Hmmm?

Luke 7:35


PS I'm a big fan of Monkey Magic....btw  Merry Christmas and happy new year.
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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 7:18 AM)

Damn, I hate it when people call the show 'Monkey Magic'. That was the name of the theme song... not the show. Just another pet peeve of mine. Here's the song that ran in the credits of the second series - Holy and Bright. A song that I'm sure would make an excellent Christmas chorus.

Holy and Bright(English Version) by Godiego

A new star's shining on an ancient story
That can take your mind to new horizons
Where laughter and adventure crosses borders
Of time and place to love and wisdom

You'll find roads into your imagination
That can stretch and open far and forever
(You'll) See colors transcending even rainbows
We have so much we can discover
There's a star that's shining through the darkness
(Shining holy and bright)
So follow that star that can guide us now
(Oh so holy and bright)
Lighting childlike purity
In the dusty corners of our mind

Holy, holy and bright
A star is shining so holy and bright
Holy, holy and bright
Never let it go out of your sight


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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 5:35 PM)

Good morning, Guest.

Am I missing something or did Ian call the original post a goose? I did, indeed. Thats not cool if that be the case. Really? Well 'idiot' would've been just as appropriate; however, I chose the more gracious option.

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 5:44 PM)

Well, well. If it isn't Tony ('Lukie') Barton!

I'm always checking in to see what the head clown of the circus is up to. Of course you are, your own efforts at pro-Revivalist forum-leading never quite achieving the success that you'd hoped for. Tell me, are you still trying to keep those six or seven 'anti-Ian' forae of yours afloat? You know, posting responses to yourself under all those aliases that you maintain? Anyway, as I understand things the Moderator welcomes you to view this forum, it's just that you're not welcome to contribute here. I'm firmly of the opinion that you reviewing this site is actually a good thing: seeing how biblical exegesis ought to be approached might just straighten out your aberrant, novel and heretical beliefs, thereby providing you with the opportunity to repent. 'While there's life, there's hope', as Cicero once quipped! Didn't take you long to get back on the forum Ian. How was your holiday? My six months' absence was quite enjoyable and profitable, actually. I managed to introduce a handful of Revivalists, among others, to Jesus Christ and I did a little work on a few projects that've been bubbling away for a while. However, I was recalled here 'for the greater good', so 'here I am'. I take it Troy is not on the forum any more? But of course, such should be obvious, even to you.

Goose.

Ian



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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 6:23 PM)

My friend T' still hates people saying MERRY CHRISTMAS and still condemns xmas trees. It is about three years since he left Revival, still stuck in that mind set.
We will be having a smaller tree this year so he won't be too upset. (just kidding)

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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 6:34 PM)

Having said that, I don’t go along with the culture of modern day Xmas. Too commercialised and all about ‘Santa’ more than about Jesus.

 

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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 7:41 PM)

Ho, Ho, Ho, it's Christmas Camp time again, bring your tent and camp chair, come ready to give an item 
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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 8:09 PM)

Quite the resemblance, don'cha think?




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RE:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:26/11/2010 8:10 PM)

Deck the GRC hall with boughs of holly, Fa la la la la, la la la la. 

Tis camp time to be jolly, Fa la la la la, la la la la. 

Don we now our gay apparel, Fa la la, la la la, la la la.
 
Strike the accordian and join the chorus, Fa la la la la, la la la la. 


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(Date Posted:26/11/2010 10:20 PM)

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AND 2 OR 3 WEEKS OF YOUR LIFE YOU WILL NEVER GET BACK !!!!!


BAH HUMBUG!!!!!!  

Ho, Ho, Ho, it's Christmas Camp time again, bring your tent and camp chair, come ready to give an item 


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Re:To Christmas,or not to Christmas
(Date Posted:28/11/2010 7:23 AM)

 That's funny stuff by the way, Youngies!

Someone needs to colour the skin green to give him more of a Grinch look. He still looks like Gargamel to me.

GRC - Grinches Recall Christmas
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