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(Date Posted:01/11/2010 12:37 PM)
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Its is now confirmed that Paul Heis and family is still  in Los Angeles and destroying and spreading the FALSE GOSPEL AND DOCTRINES  with their new church.  He blew up all those souls in Victoria, few in LA before  and more new ones now!. When is enough is enough. Paul if you read this, SIMPLY JUST GO TO HELL AND MEET SATAN YOUR CREATOR.
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RE:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:01/11/2010 3:13 PM)

Wow our long lost  Paul Heis.  The man who left Victoria . Where's you guilt?  Satan will always be proud of you. Our Lord have  blessed  and protected us and send you  away.  Blue eye Paul  Heis, just stay out of those people's lives. If you have to sell somebody's souls , just make sure just to sell yoursl!
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Re:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:01/11/2010 4:23 PM)

Paul Heis: Beware of the wrath of our Lord

The  church was beset by inner struggles, doctrinal divisions, leaders on their own personal ego trips, preachers who were in it for the money, and false prophets

The second chapter of II Peter is not the only New Testament passage dealing with false prophets, but it's about as explicit as any of them.

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.(II Peter 2:1)

One of the tell-tale signs of almost every false prophet who has strode into a congregation is this: they are wrong concerning the Lord Jesus. And no wonder. If they are to supplant Him in the affections and loyalties of God's people, they will have to devalue his lordship and undercut His deity.

Do we have a theological problem here in verse 1? Peter says they will "deny the Lord who bought them." That would indicate they are saved people doing the devil's work. Whether we should push this to the limit and say these heretics were saved or not is not for me to say.

If God judged the angels who sinned, these fake preachers are certainly not going to miss their date at the Judgement Seat.

If God judged the ancient world and yet preserved Noah, He can take care of the bad guys while protecting His own.

If God condemned Sodom and Gomorrah--and did He ever!--then shirkers like these false prophets can't expect to be overlooked by the wrath of God.

Peter is saying a little basic Bible knowledge ought to put the fear of the Lord into the hearts of the false preachers.

The problem is they don't believe the Word. They use the Scriptures like a plaything, picking and choosing what they will preach and twisting everything to fit their wicked purposes.

So, not believing the Word, they do not fear the Lord. And that leads to all kinds of excess and abscess.

There is no fear of God before their eyes.(Romans 3:18)

That may be the scariest thing to be said of anyone, but particularly a self-appointed spiritual leader. Such a lack opens the door for a world of trouble for anyone looking to that person for spiritual guidance.

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RE:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:02/11/2010 9:32 AM)

Found this nice quote on a forum that best show the colors of Paul Heis.

He was deluded/deceived by Satan and to hear the heartbreak of peoples lives here that have been cast out, beaten and left to die by the roadside whilst the pharisees/religious wolves step over their broken hearts and spirits and walk by and all which has been instigated in the name of RELIGION (Not the God of the Bible) by the delusion/deceit of another HITLER albeit in a spiritual disguise.

The true Shepherd weeps for the lost sheep and goes and searches for them to bring them back to a place of safety where they will be nourished and protected and not abused. By their FRUITS you shall know them.

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Re:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:02/11/2010 12:42 PM)

Wow, Noel Hollins might just take wonder boy back.  This is not good! He can't afford to have all the bad publicity in LA. This is indeed a fact. If Paul is not doing a good job in LA, then why keep him there. It will be better to put get him back than have a bad publicity.
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RE:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:03/11/2010 1:02 AM)

Never heard of Paul Heis, must be after my time, cos there was no LA assembly back when I was a GRCer, He sounds creapy
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Re:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:03/11/2010 5:57 AM)

He used to be the Bastor at Hamilton Victoria till that folded (history repeats itself)  and is the older brother to Ron, and sister to Wendy Walker.
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Re:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:03/11/2010 5:56 PM)

What really happened at Hamilton Victoria? Was he there for a year or two? The reason for this question is that it appeared  that he just walked away from those poor souls after whatever happened. A lot of things can happen in a year or two to a few families. So if he got them all in a mess and walks away just like that, I don't think that fair.

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Re:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:04/11/2010 6:39 AM)

             I won't critisize nor praise, but as I recall, Paul Heis was in Hamilton from about 1977 ? till about 1983 ? or there-abouts. There were only afew members attending, the Meade family. Bill was the father, a love retired farmer, and his two daughters, Helen and ........ (sorry, but my mind has gone blank - no comments please).  Helen married Steven Fulford from Bendigo and  .......  married Gordon Crawford who went to England.   (Can anyone enlighten me here).  As for Bill, well, he past on and that ment that there was no-one to preach to and Hamilton then closed down. He was to move to Warrnambool but there was too much ego. 
             So like many of the failures of The True Cult -  NO growth and it all died and being Noddy Noels 'Blue-eyed  boy, Paul gets more chances than a cat with nine lives to be a Bastor of the True Cult and that's the ONLY reason he is still "in the Game" . 
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(Date Posted:07/03/2011 12:57 AM)

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Wow our long lost  Paul Heis.  The man who left Victoria . Where's you guilt?  Satan will always be proud of you. Our Lord have  blessed  and protected us and send you  away.  Blue eye Paul  Heis, just stay out of those people's lives. If you have to sell somebody's souls , just make sure just to sell yoursl!


We recently came across this site and agree that Paul Heis who came from Geelong, Australia and moved to Los Angeles is indeed a hypocrite, and a manipulative control freak who uses people for his own gain in life. And all this is done in the guise of a "caring pastor" which couldn't be furtherest away from the truth. He is a dangerous person that has left a trail of destruction with his interfering twisted personality. He tried to destroy lives but all those souls that were under his care left. This has happenned on more than 3 occasions. Despite what is presented to other assemblies he has once again no-one to preach the Word to. Thank God for guiding and taking those people away from Paul Heis's destructive control. Great is our God as he sees everything.

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(Date Posted:14/03/2011 12:26 AM)

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We recently came across this site and agree that Paul Heis who came from Geelong, Australia and moved to Los Angeles is indeed a hypocrite, and a manipulative control freak who uses people for his own gain in life. And all this is done in the guise of a "caring pastor" which couldn't be furtherest away from the truth. He is a dangerous person that has left a trail of destruction with his interfering twisted personality. He tried to destroy lives but all those souls that were under his care left. This has happenned on more than 3 occasions. Despite what is presented to other assemblies he has once again no-one to preach the Word to. Thank God for guiding and taking those people away from Paul Heis's destructive control. Great is our God as he sees everything.

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Does anybody know what happened to the souls in Gardena, LA? we heard that they all left except for one family. Is that family still going on? If they do it is probably due to fear or some other obligation to family attending in Australia. How many times does he have to shipwreck other peoples lives? He should be sitting in Geelong Ass so that Noel Hollins can keep an eye on this guy. He is full of deception and has been getting away with it for a very long time. There are pastors like Russel Ivermee who knows exactly what this guy is capable of and yet nobody does a thing about him. These men have shown how weak they are.

Does anyone know for a fact that Paul Heis actually has a green card? Other brothers that came before him had a green card, blessed by the Lord with a rightful passage. And what did jealous Paul Heis do? He sent all those families back because they were a threat to him (in his own mind). He has told lies about good people and got away with it. It's time for him to be back in Geelong. See if his son and wife would like that! Via the grapevine, Elliot is having the time of his life. He absolutely loves the life style in LA and have even said to other youngies that he hates it in Geelong as what has it to offer? However when Elliot vists Australia he pretends that he misses it and feels lonely that there are no other young people in LA. The fact is that he is having a high life. The apple doesn't fall too far from the apple tree - like father like son!

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We recently came across this site and agree that Paul Heis who came from Geelong, Australia and moved to Los Angeles is indeed a hypocrite, and a manipulative control freak who uses people for his own gain in life. And all this is done in the guise of a "caring pastor" which couldn't be furtherest away from the truth. He is a dangerous person that has left a trail of destruction with his interfering twisted personality. He tried to destroy lives but all those souls that were under his care left. This has happenned on more than 3 occasions. Despite what is presented to other assemblies he has once again no-one to preach the Word to. Thank God for guiding and taking those people away from Paul Heis's destructive control. Great is our God as he sees everything.

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Does anybody know what happened to the souls in Gardena, LA? we heard that they all left except for one family. Is that family still going on? If they do it is probably due to fear or some other obligation to family attending in Australia. How many times does he have to shipwreck other peoples lives? He should be sitting in Geelong Ass so that Noel Hollins can keep an eye on this guy. He is full of deception and has been getting away with it for a very long time. There are pastors like Russel Ivermee who knows exactly what this guy is capable of and yet nobody does a thing about him. These men have shown how weak they are.

Does anyone know for a fact that Paul Heis actually has a green card? Other brothers that came before him had a green card, blessed by the Lord with a rightful passage. And what did jealous Paul Heis do? He sent all those families back because they were a threat to him (in his own mind). He has told lies about good people and got away with it. It's time for him to be back in Geelong. See if his son and wife would like that! Via the grapevine, Elliot is having the time of his life. He absolutely loves the life style in LA and have even said to other youngies that he hates it in Geelong as what has it to offer? However when Elliot vists Australia he pretends that he misses it and feels lonely that there are no other young people in LA. The fact is that he is having a high life. The apple doesn't fall too far from the apple tree - like father like son!

If you send PH back to Geelong for Hollins to keep an eye on him, who is then going to keep an eye on Hollins to prevent him from ruining people's lives.
They all need to go to Hell.

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Paul Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:14/03/2011 2:53 AM)

Hiding your light under a bushel Paul?

http://www.acisocal.org/ConveyorNewsletter/Newsletters/Nov08%20Nwsltr%20ACI.pdf


Paul Heis

Like most people in this industry Paul Heis, got into it by accident, rather than career

planning. After a variety of positions in associated industries such as masonry plant

operations, commercial concrete placing and a self-employed construction contractor,

Paul moved into the ready-mix industry working for Pioneer Concrete. He resigned from

Pioneer after ten years and moved into the position of Contracts Manager with James

Hardie and Company, the internal manufacturer of fiber cement backer board. The position

was both construction and product development based. In 1991, Paul moved to

Master Builders Technologies where his activities were based predominantly in concrete

repair. One of the projects Paul was involved with (Esso Western Port Pier) won an ICRI

International Award in the Transportation category. It was during this time that he was

the Chairman of the one the state’s chapters of the ACI counterpart, the Concrete Institute

of Australia (CIA). He moved to state manager with MBT and this role required a

high involvement with concrete admixtures and civil activities. In 1999, Paul was requested

to take on the assignment of General Manager of the company’s Philippines

operations. This required restructuring the company and lasted almost a year. He returned

to Australia and became Southern Regional Manager, which had full responsibilities

for all activities in the four southern states of Australia. As a result of a restructure,

Paul was offered opportunities in other countries including SE Asia and Europe. In 2002,

he moved to Southern California with his wife of 35 years and his son, who is now 22,

and in his second to last year at Cal Poly Pomona. Paul and his wife also have a

married daughter who lives in Tasmania. When they are not visiting the innumerable

natural features of the United States, they are working in the garden or on other home

projects.

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RE:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:17/03/2011 12:54 AM)

sounds like his life is going good over there, good luck to him.
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(Date Posted:17/03/2011 11:38 PM)

Read the posting stating Paul Heis was making donations in the US. What does the Geelong Revival Centre drum into its congregation? We are in this world but not part of it? Religion and Politics dont mix??? What in the world is Paul Heis making any kind of donations to politicians for in the US? This posting has since been removed. Why was it removed? Can anyone verify this? No doubt there is always a reason for what Paul does. It is probably in the name of self promotion?

If anyone else in the congregation wanted to make any kind of donation and it came to the ears of the pastors they would be admonished and may be put out of fellowship for even considering to help anyone who is not part of the cult. For example we heard of people wanting to adopt a child in 
Africa (giving donations) and were told not to even contemplate it as it was a futile effort. Where is their compassion? Such hypocrites!
Why is Paul not admonished?? Has Noel Hollins knowledge of this? Obviously Paul can do as he wishes. This has been demonstrated time and time again.

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(Date Posted:18/03/2011 11:51 PM)

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If anyone else in the congregation wanted to make any kind of donation and it came to the ears of the pastors they would be admonished and may be put out of fellowship for even considering to help anyone who is not part of the cult. For example we heard of people wanting to adopt a child in 
Africa (giving donations) and were told not to even contemplate it as it was a futile effort. Where is their compassion? Such hypocrites!
Why is Paul not admonished?? Has Noel Hollins knowledge of this? Obviously Paul can do as he wishes. This has been demonstrated time and time again.

Victoriously Going Forward


Compassion has never been a strong point in any of the Revival groups.  The leadership can change at whim depending on how it suits them.  The system is such that they can definitely do as they please and yes, this will continue to be demonstracted time and time again.

The 'pastors' especially those of the 'old guard' who have controlled Revival groups from small beginnings to now reign supreme and are answerable to no-one.  Whether it be GRC, RCI or RF they share the same family tree and their leadership is similar.  They have at some stage turned on each other and split, but the powerful few continue to rule in their respective groups each aided and consolidated by a buttrose of eager to please subordinate pastors with the word 'yes' continually on their lips.

If, as has happened in RCI and RF for instance, some of these subordinate pastors fall from favour they lose their usefulness.  If they are seen to be, or reported to be, a threat by not toeing the party line the troublesome ones are dealt with and usually replaced no questions asked.   All dissenters must go.  Few of their peers would risk their own positions against the strength of the leadership even if they were themselves were in sympathy. 

The top echelon are strategists, adept, proficient and skilled in their art of manipulation and control.

Mere members of Revivalist groups don't stand a chance, few would dare question the authority of leaders and risk blame being turned upon themselves, with being put out the ever present fear.  Members are conditioned into believing only their Revival group teaches the truth; they are brainwashed, often bullied, certainly bluffed and always subdued.  They are trained to submit to those who have the rule over them; under the guise of shepherds looking after the souls of each and every Revivalist in that particular branch of Revivalism.

The system is ripe for double standards/hyposcisy to exist.  Members could be questioned on this, but few would ever question the integrity of the leadership.  Blame would be turned back and the person who dared question would be labelled divisive, a murmurer, a sower of discord perhaps put out of fellowship unless sufficiently sorrowful and repentent - and prepared to be silent.

The recent RCI money scandal is an example of exactly what I'm talking about.  Members (the victims) who requested their money and some accountability from those involved were themselves 'put out' and discredited by 'men of God' who pulled rank.

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(Date Posted:18/03/2011 11:55 PM)

Spelling corrections:  demonstrated:  buttress.
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(Date Posted:20/03/2011 12:43 AM)

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We couldn't have put this better. You've said it all very clearly and very true. Thank You.

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This is just a general question: Is there any GRC policies that tells their Pastors when to give it up? How can a church go on,  with just one family and how will Mr. Hollins take this ( as an embarrassment  or mainly to say  that they have one Assembly in Los Angeles)

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(Date Posted:28/03/2011 10:25 PM)

This is address to: Didaktikon
What is your honestopinion about this.

This is just a general question: Is there any GRC policies that tells their Pastors when to give it up? How can a church go on,   with just one family and how will Mr. Hollins take this ( as an embarrassment  or mainly to say   that they have one Assembly in Los Angeles)



Do they really have such a guideline?

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(Date Posted:28/03/2011 11:22 PM)

 I realise this was directed to Ian, but Ian has never been a member of the GRC.

Hollins IS the GRC Pty Ltd. All directives come from him.

It was said (by Hollins), if 1 person was 'following the Lord', then fellowship would be provided.

He must think that LA is worthy of a pastor. He raises them up and puts them where he wants them.

It is not a democratic organisation.

It is run by one man and what he says is LAW.

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 I realise this was directed to Ian, but Ian has never been a member of the GRC.
Hollins IS the GRC Pty Ltd. All directives come from him.

It was said (by Hollins), if 1 person was 'following the Lord', then fellowship would be provided.

He must think that LA is worthy of a pastor. He raises them up and puts them where he wants them.

It is not a democratic organisation.

It is run by one man and what he says is LAW.


So if he Dies, then the Law goes along with him
Do you think these policies will ever change for the Revival Group?
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So if he Dies, then the Law goes along with him
Do you think these policies will ever change for the Revival Group?

He has created heaps of MINI-MEs....the LAW (his law) will still be there and depending on the EGO of the MINI-ME, the Assembly they are in charge of will either become a softer, more tolerant place OR the opposite will happen. My vote is for the opposite.
When he dies, the jockeying for position and influence over the followers will be AMAZING.
The fighting over what is his personal property and what belongs to the Assembly will be bitter and protracted.
I have heard that most of the assets in Geelong and Ocean Grove are in his name only.
I have also been told that the GRC is now a Proprietary Limited  Company and Hollins is the sole director.
Imagine the bun fight.
Maybe it will become like a sinking ship and the rats will desert it in droves.
Hope so for their sakes.

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This is address to: Didaktikon
What is your honestopinion about this.

This is just a general question: Is there any GRC policies that tells their Pastors when to give it up? How can a church go on,   with just one family and how will Mr. Hollins take this ( as an embarrassment  or mainly to say   that they have one Assembly in Los Angeles)



Do they really have such a guideline?


Just as rules can be broken, church policies can be bent by  Noel Hollins to suit the purpose. A good example is the LA crisis. Even though Noel gave Paul Heis the "Pastor" title, it meant absolutley nothing because Paul Heis did not have any divine right. He stole that calling when he got to LA via other means of manipulation.
Other brothers arrived with their families answering God's righteous call. Who was the green eyed monster? Well Paul's eyes might be blue but they are also green with envy and insecurity. Of course to secure his position in LA he committed spiritual murder. Did he care? Of course not! He has no conscience. Further he went on framing these wonderful families with lies, lies and more lies. How many times must the Lord reveal what Paul is all about? Several times has his position as a pastor been questioned. He has brought hardship to those under his care. He has tried to rail-road souls and shape them to his pathetic persona.

As for guidelines, you bet they do! They twist and turn these guidelines to suit their own rotten flesh. There is nothing spiritual about Paul. He will not hesitate to kick a brother even when he is down.

Those who stand up for the truth shall not be slain by these pathetic individuals.

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Re:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:01/04/2011 5:16 PM)

Noel doesnt really bend the GRC rules because he made them and often changes them. They are his rules, and unlike what he claims, are only loosely based on Scripture.
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This is address to: Didaktikon
What is your honestopinion about this.

This is just a general question: Is there any GRC policies that tells their Pastors when to give it up? How can a church go on,   with just one family and how will Mr. Hollins take this ( as an embarrassment  or mainly to say   that they have one Assembly in Los Angeles)



Do they really have such a guideline?


Just as rules can be broken, church policies can be bent by  Noel Hollins to suit the purpose. A good example is the LA crisis. Even though Noel gave Paul Heis the "Pastor" title, it meant absolutley nothing because Paul Heis did not have any divine right. He stole that calling when he got to LA via other means of manipulation.
Other brothers arrived with their families answering God's righteous call. Who was the green eyed monster? Well Paul's eyes might be blue but they are also green with envy and insecurity. Of course to secure his position in LA he committed spiritual murder. Did he care? Of course not! He has no conscience. Further he went on framing these wonderful families with lies, lies and more lies. How many times must the Lord reveal what Paul is all about? Several times has his position as a pastor been questioned. He has brought hardship to those under his care. He has tried to rail-road souls and shape them to his pathetic persona.

As for guidelines, you bet they do! They twist and turn these guidelines to suit their own rotten flesh. There is nothing spiritual about Paul. He will not hesitate to kick a brother even when he is down.

Those who stand up for the truth shall not be slain by these pathetic individuals.

Victoriously Going Forward


it meant absolutley nothing because Paul Heis did not have any divine right. He stole that calling when he got to LA via other means of manipulation.

Question: Was he a Pastor before and what type of manipulation did he do to get to where he is now? Isn't a Pastor a calling rather than a being self promoted or manipulated event.


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RE:Pual Heis is in Los Angeles
(Date Posted:04/04/2011 11:55 PM)

Just read all previous threads about Paul Heis and family and you will find your answers. Paul went to the Philipines first, caused havoc there and then to LA. He could not get to LA directly so he struck a deal with worldly mates.

It has always been told by pastors that if you want to be used in a situation, you need to pray about it and get there directly. No round about ways. However it seems in Paul's case, exceptions can be made! All other families put LA first in their prayers and those prayers were answered. What a miracle!

I won't be surprised if this is Paul himself asking this question. Is this you Paul?

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