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Title: Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
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(Date Posted:11/12/2006 1:49 PM)

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What does /did noel herbert hollins know of these incidents? Was he aware of the incident that occurred 26 yrs ago at Daylesford, and when was he made aware of it. Was he aware of the incident that happened a few years ago to the 14 yo curly haired girl? And have there been other incidents of child molestation that he has been aware of but has failed to do anything about? I think it is now law that peolpe in the medical profession MUST report any such cases to the police. Really Noel Herbert HOLLINS has failed respect the goodness of every GRC member by failing to report such incidents to the authorities or urging the victim and their families to contact the authorities. Really what has he achieved by keeping such things in house. Nothing except a cover for the perpetrator to continue to offend and weasel out of allegations if and when they arise. Noel is as guilty a
I understand these cases are very serious matters, but take into account that it happened 26 years ago. Move on. Don't keep dwelling on it. It only gets worse if you let it eat you up. Has this matter been the sole purpose of your life? Go get some counselling to help you deal with your anger because you would be amazed just how much situations like this and a life you once had in the GRC can really screw you up.
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(Date Posted:11/12/2006 1:55 PM)

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What does /did noel herbert hollins know of these incidents? Was he aware of the incident that occurred 26 yrs ago at Daylesford, and when was he made aware of it. Was he aware of the incident that happened a few years ago to the 14 yo curly haired girl? And have there been other incidents of child molestation that he has been aware of but has failed to do anything about? I think it is now law that peolpe in the medical profession MUST report any such cases to the police. Really Noel Herbert HOLLINS has failed respect the goodness of every GRC member by failing to report such incidents to the authorities or urging the victim and their families to contact the authorities. Really what has he achieved by keeping such things in house. Nothing except a cover for the perpetrator to continue to offend and weasel out of allegations if and when they arise. Noel is as guilty a
I am very sorry about that I am referring to the victim of this situation not the person who wrote this post. OOOPPPSSS!
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(Date Posted:11/12/2006 2:25 PM)

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Reply to : AnonymousWhat does /did noel herbert hollins know of these incidents? Was he aware of the incident that occurred 26 yrs ago at Daylesford, and when was he made aware of it. Was he aware of the incident that happened a few years ago to the 14 yo curly haired girl? And have there been other incidents of child molestation that he has been aware of but has failed to do anything about? I think it is now law that peolpe in the medical profession MUST report any such cases to the police. Really Noel Herbert HOLLINS has failed respect the goodness of every GRC member by failing to report such incidents to the authorities or urging the victim and their families to contact the authorities. Really what has he achieved by keeping such things in house. Nothing except a cover for the perpetrator to continue to offend and weas
Well aren't we all clued up on psychology! Excuse me but I did well and truly get on with my life and the spiritual rape and abuse that I have experienced by the GRC organisation has been far worse. And hello you have no idea who I am and how I live my life so go and pick on someone else you dim witted individual. Rock Spider's family happened to be mentioned on this site that's why I replied with what I did. I have not gone looking for sympathy, but Mot Mot who apparently didn't believe that  that Rock spider is a child molester needed it spelt out by a former victim. Read from the start before you post any more of your rubbish.
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(Date Posted:11/12/2006 2:30 PM)

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 WHAT I AM SAYING IS TRUE! In the time I have been reading this forum I haven't come across anyone making false accusations of child molesting, so Mot Mot chill out a bit. You are saying that if this is true I should have contacted the authorities. Well how could I as a 14 year old. Think about it, especially a 14 year old in the GRC! Goodness Mot, get with it. Even when I grew up how could I contact the police knowing the assembly and Noel would be dragged into this for sure. I was very loyal and respectful of Noel and the assembly like most others and would not have dreamt of upsetting the apple cart so to speak. Now I am in a different situation, but even up until 2 years ago I still felt a certain amount of respect towards Noel. Even if I haven't contacted the police does not make me a liar. Sometimes I wonder about people! mous,

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Dear anonymous, I must again apologise as it seems I have touched a raw nerve . It was never my intention to do so  but  I must admit I did sound a little provocative   .I was also sneakerly fishing   and  I got a lot of bites! 

I am not trying to defend GRC Pty.Ltd. by any means , but after those first few posts   , I tried to say that ...   be carefull of what we say. We don't want any deformation charges brought against anyone.  Most of all , we must remember that under Australian Law ,    ' one ' is presumed innocent until proven guilty.   I notice here over these posts , that  it was getting too dangerous and I was hoping to tame it down but I certainly failed there !

 I understant your posistion and reluctance reportit or even say anything. The past is gone , but what do you wish to do now ? Do you wish to pursue it or let it go and walk away.  If you do walk,  your've got more strength than I . I would ........   well what can I say without starting it all over again. I would be no better than the offender .

 Also , I am sorry  I offened when I said  Blatantly lying but that is how I was to understand it. I also did say ...   "  but unless you yourself did bare witness "  and in a reply post did say   " that I stand corrected ".

 Either way, please don't be too angry at me, after all I was "  fishing "  and it did set the ball rolling .

Oh, and to those other anonymouses who shot bullets across my bow,   ......    you'll have to try harder than that   !    Cheers. 

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(Date Posted:11/12/2006 11:13 PM)

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What does /did noel herbert hollins know of these incidents? Was he aware of the incident that occurred 26 yrs ago at Daylesford, and when was he made aware of it. Was he aware of the incident that happened a few years ago to the 14 yo curly haired girl? And have there been other incidents of child molestation that he has been aware of but has failed to do anything about? I think it is now law that peolpe in the medical profession MUST report any such cases to the police. Really Noel Herbert HOLLINS has failed respect the goodness of every GRC member by failing to report such incidents to the authorities or urging the victim and their families to contact the authorities. Really what has he achieved by keeping such things in house. Nothing except a cover for the perpetrator to continue to offend and weasel out of allegations if and when they arise. Noel is as guilty a

Was he aware of the incident that  happened a few years ago to the 14 yo curly haired girl? And have there been other incidents of child molestation that he has been aware of but has failed to do anything about? I think it is now law that peolpe in the medical profession MUST report any such cases to the police. Really Noel Herbert HOLLINS has failed respect the goodness of every GRC member

He was made aware of this incident with the curly haired girl. He put david out until the truth was revealed as he could not come to a conclusion and the girls parent were extremely upset (understandable as I would be), well, he's still out of fellowship so do we come to the conclusion noel had it revealed david did it? The girl has since left and married and had kids. David is still maintaining his inocense and his wife as far as I know, backs him up and is still with him.

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(Date Posted:11/12/2006 11:26 PM)

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Reply to : AnonymousWhat does /did noel herbert hollins know of these incidents? Was he aware of the incident that occurred 26 yrs ago at Daylesford, and when was he made aware of it. Was he aware of the incident that happened a few years ago to the 14 yo curly haired girl? And have there been other incidents of child molestation that he has been aware of but has failed to do anything about? I think it is now law that peolpe in the medical profession MUST report any such cases to the police. Really Noel Herbert HOLLINS has failed respect the goodness of every GRC member by failing to report such incidents to the authorities or urging the victim and their families to contact the authorities. Really what has he achieved by keeping such things in house. Nothing except a cover for the perpetrator to continue to offend and weas
Just because a subject is raised on the site and  gets talked about, in no way suggests the "victim" is dwelling on it as you put it. Everyone has bad things that have happened in their lives that they talk about now and again. If you dont know the person and the circumstances how can you even begin to judge.
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(Date Posted:16/12/2006 12:08 PM)

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What ever happened to that tall blonde guy with the short wife who lived in Lara? You know the guy who gave a testimony on peeing on an extension cord and zapping hit little friend. Adrian something. He uses to be a youngies leader I think. Slikerman
I'm just wondering why you wanted to know what happened to Adrian Slykerman, we all got off the beaten track.
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(Date Posted:16/12/2006 11:56 PM)




I understand these cases are very serious matters, but take into account that it happened 26 years ago. Move on.



You just don't understand. Noel was hoping that it would move on but it didn't, David found another victim and there may well be others. That is what I am on about. Noel has/had a responsibility to protect his followers and he didn't. I know of other situations which are just as bad and maybe worse, and in each of those cases what did Noel do, a bit fat nothing.  
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(Date Posted:18/12/2006 12:06 AM)

The victim has moved on and appears to have  made a wonderful life for herself, triumphing over a dreadful past incident. And many people in this situation do the same, but when these victims become aware of a possible scenario developing and the opportunity for the perpetrator to once again attack then sometimes the victims can no longer leave the past alone, fearful for the same thing happening to another person. They can cope with it happening to them but not others. Classic reactions!  People who live in Geelong are probably aware of a situation that occurred to a schoolboy who attended St Josephs College. He was molested by a school teacher, he told no one, it affected him but he was able to survive but when his young brother was about to be taught by the pedophile school teacher he could not remain silent. He was confused . He didn't know what to do. I am unsure whether he spoke to people about it but he felt that the only way that he could be heard was to do something drastic, and he did, he shot himself in the leg, yes he shot himself as a method of protecting his brother. Anyway the rest is history, the teacher was eventually convicted and went to jail. And the Christian Brothers knew what this teacher had been up to and they did nothing about it, and this was confirmed to me by a former teacher who taught at St Marys where this pedophile was moved to by the Christian Brothers. And Noel Hollins appears to be in the same position as those Christian Brothers, do nothing and it will move on. But it doesn't work because the incident always lives with the victim and those classic reactions have a way of coming out at a later date, and that is what has happened here, we have someone asking about the whereabouts of someone, and we have someone,(a victim), reading the posting and it all becomes to much for her, she sees the picture, " Adrian Slykermann + Adrians daughter + married to Wankalaars son + daughters child + Wankalaar is grandfather + Wankalaar is an alleged pedophile = grandchild  being in danger of being molested." Its a classic reaction.  Just go and ask any person who deals with pedophiles.

There is just one thing that is not clear to me but was Noel Hollins made aware of the situation when it happened 26yrs ago?

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(Date Posted:18/12/2006 2:42 AM)

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Reply to: Anonymous What ever happened to that tall blonde guy with the short wife who lived in Lara? You know the guy who gave a testimony on peeing on an extension cord and zapping hit little friend. Adrian something. He uses to be a youngies leader I think. Slikerman I 'm just wondering why you wanted to know what happened to Adrian Slykerman, we all got off the beaten track.



Like dude Adrian and his wife were my friends when I was a cult member. I haven't seen them in years and was wondering if the next time I was in town I would pop in and see them. That is if they were out of the cult or not. Now that I know they are still blindly following Noel I will not bother looking them up. But I will be sending them some print out from this site that he may learn the truth of his cult. Sure I could just have easily ignored his existence and left it at that. Not knowing if they were alive or not but I'm not that kind of guy. I'm the kind of guy who cares about others. I'm the kind of guy who likes to help. I'm the kind of guy who would look someone up who is willing to get help getting out of the GRC. But what do I know! What do I know about friends and family who are in and out of the cult? I only have some friends who have left and I only have some family members who are still in and I'm worried about them.

So when I ask about others in the future as to "are they in or are them out?) I hope you can help me. And if you can't help me I hope you can help others. And if you can't help others help yourself. And if you can't help yourself SHUT UP! Sorry! Have a nice day
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(Date Posted:14/02/2007 2:03 AM)

Just thought I'd bump this thread back up to where it should be...

While I'm at it, I might as well put my name out here.

 

My name's Sean Hyland and I left the cult in 1989 when I was 18.  As a result of leaving the GRC, I lost contact with a lot of people - so if you're one of those people, I'd like to hear from you, just to see how you're getting along.

Unfortunately I also haven't had any contact with my siblings, and have no idea of how to contact them. I guess I don't really know them anymore, but I do miss them and would like to hear from them if they are willing. I apologise in advance to them if any GRC do-gooders give them any grief for me posting this message, but hey, I'm your brother and I'd like to hear from you. I won't try and change your beliefs or anything. I've got a brother-in-law that I haven't met too - we should have a beer sometime. Ok then - an iced coffee

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(Date Posted:24/06/2007 11:41 AM)

Martha, Martha,

heard you're free.

I'd love to chat,

please message me...

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(Date Posted:25/06/2007 2:47 AM)

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Martha, Martha,heard you're free.I'd love to chat,please message me...

To My darling Wife,

We were so happy together, ONLY you & I know that's a fact.  Stop listening to everyone and start listening to yourself.. It broke my heart that on our 6 month wedding Annversary I had to spend it on my own and take off the wedding ring you gave me. 

Look after the 'little man' make sure he knows I love him....

Come out - its not what they say it is. Save our marriage and let me be your husband again..

 

I love you & pray I will see you soon..

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(Date Posted:29/06/2007 9:30 PM)

howdee doodley tristaroony , this is your sister, its been 10 long years.i wonder if you think of us

and if you were lonely on your own. we both have children we have never seen and we are getting older.life is short.

i miss you and hope that one day we can meet with our common thread being sibling love.

(by the way the reson that ag gave u for my being put out was a lie) he is sick.

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(Date Posted:30/06/2007 11:26 AM)

hey blood brother triston weston

it has been ten year since i have seen you in the flesh hope your well brother mum tells me you are so i beleive her. it would be nice to meet your kids one day but i dont think thats going to happen any time soon. try not to shoot to many crims lots of love beaudy x x

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(Date Posted:21/07/2007 2:36 PM)

Can anyone verify whether Warren Lunt is in Geelong? I thought I saw him in Autobarn the other day.

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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:31/01/2008 5:40 AM)

I think that this is an important topic to have on the top of the list.

SIX pages of broken hearts all due to NHH and his EVIL Doctrine.  To the 'never saved' or 'unsaved' I honestly feel that this is 6 pages of 'cries of love and good wishes'.....

My darling wife I will never give up!!! If you do read this I married you becauseI love you for you. Better or worse.. 

And our little man sneak him a hug when he frowns, you don't have to tell him it's from me....  

Those moles who are reading up on 'us' backslidders' I hope our sinserity burns a 'Godly' hole in your hearts and you see the light.

Take care my wife. I will be here waiting and I will not give up.

I love you
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(Date Posted:24/01/2009 10:27 PM)

Reply to revboy (23/01/2009 06:13:09)

l have read this thread with a heavy heart !

A trail of devastation of souls and families !

Hollins will pay for his diabolical deeds, one day !

l will humbly add my footprint !

My precious daughter Robynne Louise Addison, my grandsons Bryce Anthony and Truman Alexander 

and my son in law Peter Addison, l love you and miss you !

Johnny and Elna Gardiner, Paul and Linda Madden, Danny and Julie Regan, Colin and Anita Plunkett,

Hans and lneke Jurgens, Daryl and Beverly Gee, Alan and Rose Morton, Barry and Jennifer lnsley and

hundreds more, ditto !

neville griffiths,

revboy, xo.


Hi Neville (gee that'd the first time I have called you by your first name, I use to call you Mr Griffiths),

I knew some of the people you have listed, as they were friends with my father as were you.  I am still praying that my father will leave the GRC, he does break the rules alot, as he often visits me and other "backsliden" relitives, so there is hope, it might be a slow process, but as long as he has breath, there is hope. 

You passion Revboy is inspiring, keep it up, kick down the gates of hell !!!


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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:25/01/2009 7:27 PM)


I'm not too sure if it is breaking the rules to still see "backsliden" relatives. I'm sure it is probably different rules for different people. I have a family member still there and when I left the GRC, they told Noel that they'd still have contact with me. Although they would never have anything to do with unrelated people that have left.
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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:26/06/2010 4:29 AM)

What ever happened to the DeWaal's, Solly's, Reed's, Deboars are they still going there or have they left too.
l enjoyed my times with them when going to young peoples in the 70's and have allways wondered what happened to them.
One of my favourite times was the New years eve march to the surf beach.
Some great people going there at that time it's a pity the leadership was shit.

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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:27/06/2010 5:57 AM)

Danny and Julie Regan

you probably know by now, but i belive he died some time ago, as did john whatsi, viviennes husband and even longer ago roy mapleson.

does anyone know what happened to david hyland, michelle bristow...
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Re:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:28/06/2010 4:21 AM)

David's still going strong as far as I know. Nice guy, not married, but it is a very limited gene pool in there.
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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:28/06/2010 4:35 AM)

David is a nice guy "if your in the GRC" but when you leave he's just the same as all the others,  ignores you like he never knew you
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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:28/06/2010 5:55 AM)

thaNks. if any one sees him, can you please tell him theres only one safeway? from laadeedahh. if he doesnt know who its from, oh well.   its been a bloody long time after all!

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Re:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:28/06/2010 6:11 AM)

I'm sure he'll read it here. They all have a sneaky peek at this forum once in a while while no-one is watching.

 

Careful, GRCer's... Jesus is watching you - he knows you're disobeying your Pastor. Yes, that's right, I mean you!
Now go and repent (again).

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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:01/10/2010 9:24 PM)

I am bring this one out of the basement to make a suggestion to those of you who know more about the internet than I.
I have a number of photos of people in and out of the GRCCLCPTYLTD and I know that most if not all of you have some also. As it not most of the people that we are in disagreement with but the powers that be I would like to suggest that we all post our photos in one place and allow downloading of these photos that we may remember the good people and time that we did have.
I have a number of people that I would love to meet up with again who are still in but until then a photos would be a good stand in.

I was going to create a Flickr account that was titled Geelongrevivalcentre memerer or not but I'm not sure if you would all agree that this is a good name.
As we might not know if some of the people are in our out it's had to come up with a name that would cover both groups.

Here are the links to the two sites that I suggest be set up by someone who know the best way to go about this.
And when this is done we could all download the photos that we have and think others would like to see. There are even photos of me out there that I would like to see and copy.
So I will leave it with with the core and you can discuss it from there.

And I know my punctuations suck but I don't think that that's the most important part of this site.
But for all you teachers out there here are a few punctuations that you can place any where you like
":;;{}{]][))(<<,,>>...::{}!!2@#$%^ ||\\'''?""???

http://photobucket.com
http://www.flickr.com/
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Re:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:02/10/2010 3:47 AM)

Great idea littlewhitemouse, can't wait for it to get up and running and see some of those photos.
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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:02/10/2010 8:26 AM)

 Or you can actually host them here in Aimoo... check the 'images' link at the top of the page.

We pay the full price for this forum for such features.
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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:02/10/2010 4:48 PM)

LWM et Pete,

You might want to consider the potential ramifications, first. Whilst possessing photographs isn't against the law, and neither is displaying them to others necessarily; "publishing" them without securing the appropriate releases from the people whose images are captured in the photos might be (producing images online is considered "publishing" according to Australian law). If they contain images of certain of the more "hard-line" GRC cronies, there is the possibility that one or two might try to take you to task legally.

The general "out" in these circumstances is for photos taken in public locations. But if they were taken on GRC property, or on private property not belonging to you, then who knows what might ring true?

Blessings,

Ian 


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Re:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:02/10/2010 7:49 PM)

 I have since received several more photo from another former member. This would make my contribution near 200.
I'm not lucky enough to live in Australia and if the GRCCLCPTYLTD wants to go photo to photo and find out via the legal system to who posted what "good luck with that"t And the web sites are not hosted in Australia.
If they want to bring me to Australia to go to court I would love a vacation.
The hard line GRCCLCPTYLTD cronies are fair game public figures that need to be exposed for what they are.
The bobble-head just went national on t.v..
Lastly  Blood....stone.

I already have photos that have been up for years and the link is on this site and still no vacation.
I can see how some people might find seeing photos of their loved ones who are still members hard to view it would be no harder than just looking at there own photos albums.
And the though that others might see their loved ones who are in the cult or not in the cult is very unlikely as the billions of photos out there are more likely something that they would prefer to see.Please see.Banned in Hollywood.com
No last names need to be tagged. And you can password protect it. But this would stop those that don't visit this or the face page site from getting on. and I' sure there are many people out there who could google upon it.And it might make their day. I know the new photos that I just received did.
It's not the people or it's the leaders that I don't like. Ok some of the people. But most of us don't think that we were the problems when we were in it do we?
And it's free for those who would like to view them. Or it has been for me.It might cost money to host hundreds but this can be broken down into groups by: citys,town,dates,etc.
And the good that will come from it is far better than the worst that could come.
Just need a name to help direct people to this site.


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Re:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:03/10/2010 9:27 PM)

what about '72 Revival' or '1 in the blue' or 'U&MEatGRC' or 'The Hallelujah meeting over there' or 'The Assembly Album'

there are many names which could be used that are specificly related to GRC but not exclusively GRC, they could mean anything!
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(Date Posted:04/10/2010 9:29 PM)

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 I have since received several more photo from another former member. This would make my contribution near 200.
I'm not lucky enough to live in Australia and if the GRCCLCPTYLTD wants to go photo to photo and find out via the legal system to who posted what "good luck with that"t And the web sites are not hosted in Australia.
If they want to bring me to Australia to go to court I would love a vacation.
The hard line GRCCLCPTYLTD cronies are fair game public figures that need to be exposed for what they are.
The bobble-head just went national on t.v..
Lastly  Blood....stone.

I already have photos that have been up for years and the link is on this site and still no vacation.
I can see how some people might find seeing photos of their loved ones who are still members hard to view it would be no harder than just looking at there own photos albums.
And the though that others might see their loved ones who are in the cult or not in the cult is very unlikely as the billions of photos out there are more likely something that they would prefer to see.Please see.Banned in Hollywood.com
No last names need to be tagged. And you can password protect it. But this would stop those that don't visit this or the face page site from getting on. and I' sure there are many people out there who could google upon it.And it might make their day. I know the new photos that I just received did.
It's not the people or it's the leaders that I don't like. Ok some of the people. But most of us don't think that we were the problems when we were in it do we?
And it's free for those who would like to view them. Or it has been for me.It might cost money to host hundreds but this can be broken down into groups by: citys,town,dates,etc.
And the good that will come from it is far better than the worst that could come.
Just need a name to help direct people to this site.


How can we see your photos that you have already put up. Where are they?

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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:05/10/2010 11:52 PM)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7767570@N02/

Now they should be unlocked but it not I'll try and fix it
Please leave a comment on the photos...if you like
And most of the people in the photos have been  identified by mot (thank you mot) But if not and you know them please add the name and  other information.

I'm thinking the suggestion of U&ME and the GRC but a good dig would be better
How about a some Herbie running comment that he make at each meeting or some off the cuff remark that was over heard for a name?

I will be adding more photos when my computer is working well I think it has a cold.

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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:07/10/2010 1:43 AM)

if your looking for a Herbie comment what about 'Bible Evidence' or 'until Jesus comes again' or 'have you recieved'
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(Date Posted:07/10/2010 11:49 PM)

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/7767570@N02/

Now they should be unlocked but it not I'll try and fix it
Please leave a comment on the photos...if you like
And most of the people in the photos have been  identified by mot (thank you mot) But if not and you know them please add the name and  other information.

I'm thinking the suggestion of U&ME and the GRC but a good dig would be better
How about a some Herbie running comment that he make at each meeting or some off the cuff remark that was over heard for a name?

I will be adding more photos when my computer is working well I think it has a cold.



Googled that address and nothing comes up?????
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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:13/10/2010 3:45 PM)

i was wondering if any off the walker family from GRC and live in corio would like to get intouch with a family member now living in the uk please get intouch with me via here or on facebook your long lost brother GRAHAM WALKER...
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RE:Have you LOST FAMILY & FRIENDS IN THE G.R.C.?
(Date Posted:14/10/2010 3:20 PM)

People don't wake in the morning thinking that they are going to be evil. Well most people don't.

And those that know themselves to be different seem to find a way to justify their actions to make them out to be the victim and or even a saviour.


But most people like those in the grc and even herbie himself most likely (and there is a great difference between those that lead and those that follow) just like us use to believe that we were right, and doing good trying to save souls for god.


So instead of attacking them and putting them on the defensive we should remember what it took us to wake up and get out and find a key to help those that want to leave. Maybe it's something simple like a phone call or a letter. Maybe it's just a person who will listen and not judge them as we know how long it took us to get over the fear of change,loss,guilt,shame,the vengeful god willing to kill us just because we left (the one and only true church).


I have read and have even posted things that make me/us feel good at the time. And every thing that I posted and most of what I've read is true. But now that it's out of my system I feel I have to add to and not take away from the general feeling of......bitterness towards the grc.


I know there are some people in the grc that I wish would stay in there for the benefit of all of mankind. That these people were so bad and out of control that keeping them in one place and being controlled by the ruler is for the better. As I noticed that the great change that we looked for in joining the grc was not a complete transformation to pure good. But most of them should leave and be free to say NO!


No I will not move there and be the pastor,elder,support,seat filler. No I will not stay here and be the pastor,elder,support,seat filler. No I will not not take that job because the boss asks me to work during Christmas vacation. Or the odd Sunday or Wednesday night. No I will force my children to move out because they left the grc. No I will not stop taking my medication or not start taking my medication or get treatment that you might just think that if god is working that day may by his grace heal me though you the great and wonderful herbie hollins. And if my 24 hour flu is healed I get to be pointed out and stood up and handed the mic and babble on about how I was healed. But if I die it was god's will. Maybe god needed me to take more time for the church so he bumped off my wife.


What is the goal of the grc? Is it the goal of one man or it it the goal of all places that want to control people?

When herbie dies someone will take over and carry on being the leader. And when groups of people leave what do they do? They start something very similar. The leader and followers. The shepherd and sheep.

From time to time the sheep are sheared and some are placed upon the alter and sacrificed. It's not like the olden time where they did it on top of a stone alter and cut you open but the end it the same. Loss of freedom, loss of life.


So how about we feel more and care more and judge less? Say hi to them when walking down the street or at the restaurant. Call someone up or write them a letter and tell them "you are thinking of them and miss them and would like to see them." Treat them as if they were out and see what happens.


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