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(Date Posted:07/05/2010 12:02 AM)
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I am not a fan of watching the talent shows that have been on TV over the past few years but I have on occasion watched  Australia's Has Talent.  I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the 'father and son' guitar act  who have now made it into the next stage.  It was great to hear Cameron and Taylor Henderson were auditioning. I actually missed their segment but I was told that Taylor sung a song he wrote and it was about his sister, and while he was performing it and un-be-knowing to him, the crew ? back stage sent her out onto the stage (behind Taylor) - she was on crutches ! ?

Anyway, from what I am told and lead to believe, they were great and the crowd loved them. It shows more love and family ethics in Cameron (& wife) parenting compared to what ever could come out of Nasty Noddy Noel's ministry of abuse.  Obviously Cameron and Family don't attend and must be enjoying a normal life the way it should be.  Well done Cameron and Family.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:07/05/2010 1:58 AM)

I never watch talent shows, especially anything with Kyle Sanderlands in it, but I happened to sit down and watch that episode and was amazed by that father and son act. I've been showing the youtube clip to friends... all three of them.




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(Date Posted:07/05/2010 4:19 AM)

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  Obviously Cameron and Family don't attend and must be enjoying a normal life the way it should be.  Well done Cameron and Family.

Hi Motmot,

I just watched the audition, what a lovely family, and what beautiful voices.
Was this family originally in the GRC?


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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:08/05/2010 8:56 AM)

The son IS still in the GRC. And has been getting some heat for the performance.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:09/05/2010 3:34 AM)

Beautiful performance. Pity Noel doesn't listen to the lyrics of Man in the Mirror. How typical - another attempt to put a gifted young person in a straitjacket.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:10/05/2010 8:38 PM)

Just heard Noel has given Taylor a choice... What can you say? Any young people who might have thought about going to the grc as a result of Taylor's testimony and talents will hear and be turned off by Noel. How utterly typical. Will Noel ever realise that he has pretty much single-handedly killed the moving of the Spirit in the grc?

Taylor - if you see this remember that King Saul wanted to kill king David - and if David was living now he'd probably play a guitar. Well saul lost the plot completely and hated David's popularity which was why he wanted to kill him so David was forced to live in the wilderness. So who did God choose? Saul or David.   (SW)
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(Date Posted:10/05/2010 10:15 PM)

When you leave the GRC, you leave an establishment.

 A place that was created by a man, hell bent on control.

 You do not leave 'the Lord'.

 
Some lucky people have GOD GIVEN talents. Why deny a gift that God has so graciously bestowed?

Taylor and Cameron have that talent or gift, why not use it and share it with those less fortunate.

The people who watch the show have seen your own personal testimony already. The way you interact as a family is a testimony in itself.

It is sad that you have been placed in such a difficult, unenviable position when, by rights, under NORMAL circumstances, you should be basking in some well deserved cheer


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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:11/05/2010 4:59 AM)

God has made each of us unique,a living soul,individual,the Spirit is given to bring that soul to life.
These men want to break the free will God has given us,contol and destroy  that individuality that He gave us and conform to their  soul destroying lies.
hollins left the Body of Christ years ago now his  member is decomposing and all who pass by can smell the stench.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:13/05/2010 6:13 PM)

yes its true, Taylor got kicked out by Noal for his performance.
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Jesus answered, "Shhhh!!! Not too loud. That"s the GRC. They think they"re the only ones here!!!"

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(Date Posted:13/05/2010 9:29 PM)

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yes its true, Taylor got kicked out by Noal for his performance.

Let's hope that Taylor (and Cameron) go a very long way with their respective musical careers because of their exposure to a larger audience (than those folk 'in the kitchen') on Australia's Got Talent..

NHH's meanspiritedness knows no bounds.

I hope Taylor realises the favour that NHH has done him by kicking him out.

Glad


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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:03/06/2010 2:22 AM)

               I watched the show, first was Cameron and later Taylor- well, what great performances! On the night I believe that they would be the best out of all the other acts but they will have competion with some of the other acts to come. Still, they cut the ice and should go far if they wish to pursue it.
               Camerons song had Danny Minogue shedding tears while Kyle said he performed like a seasoned pro. and Taylor was so modest and then said quietly.....   "thankyou Australia".  On the night, they were both the best and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
                 Congratulations Cam and Taylor.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:08/06/2010 4:58 PM)

What a loser Noel Hollins is! I don't know why Cameron and Sonya no longer attend GRC, nor do I really care. But to kick Taylor out for appearing on A TV show is really a low thing to do, but then again Noel's life has been full of low acts, especially when it comes to families. he has a history of breaking up and setting family members against each other. I hope that Taylor wins, and the media get wind of what Noel has done to him, ie kicking him out of GRC. This may be the catalyst that the GRC needs to bring it,(Noel), undone. Just where is Noels standard. This act of Noels is just another nail in the coffin lid ,the coffin to hell, to where the GRC is heading, for no God will want a GRC person in their heaven. Noel, you are a loser.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:08/06/2010 5:58 PM)

Just this moment returning from town I pulled up at the traffic lights and parked along side in a ute were the amazing duo. A friendly smile exchanced. I used to do a bit of work for Cam's dad, and remember Cam as a young lad. A terrific family. Noel Hollins is one deluded dude for sure. The church (i.e. true church ) is about restoring people to the Lord, not kicking people whilst their down.
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(Date Posted:08/06/2010 11:06 PM)

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I hope that Taylor wins, and the media get wind of what Noel has done to him,

Just write a brief overview of the story as you see it and make the subject of the email something like,

Australia's Got Talent Finalists Kicked out church for chasing their dream!!!

Don't forget to include your phone number.

You'll have to strike while the iron is hot and their show is on TV now.  So don't be slack! Do it now!


It certainly would be a sensational story but if you do decide to expose the heartless actions of the GRC just be sure that you have Cam & Tays best interests at heart. Would the negative media attention affect their ongoing music career chances? Perhaps there is a reason they haven't yet mentioned it themselves. Would it be worthwhile to check with them first before bulldozing ahead.

While you will definitely score some temporary cheap shots at the GRC make certain it is not at the long term expense of Cam & Tay. They do not need to yet again become the victims just because we have an axe to grind with the GRC. Then again they might be all for it. 




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(Date Posted:09/06/2010 12:04 AM)

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It certainly would be a sensational story but if you do decide to expose the heartless actions of the GRC just be sure that you have Cam & Tays best interests at heart. Would the negative media attention affect their ongoing music career chances? Perhaps there is a reason they haven't yet mentioned it themselves. Would it be worthwhile to check with them first before bulldozing ahead.


That would all depend on your relationship to them.

I don't think it would effect their careers at all. If anything it would be reason to boost their profile. But if your ethics demand that you consult them  first then by all means do so.

But don't miss an opportunity to enlist the media in the ongoing battle against Hollins because of uncertainty.

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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:09/06/2010 6:13 PM)



Also bear in mind that some people just want to move on from the GRC and get on with their lives. They dont want the constant reminder of it hanging over their heads. Some counsellors suggest one of the best ways to get over something is to STOP surrounding yourself with information about the thing you are trying to overcome.

This is one reason I rarely visit this forum. While being a great way to vent when you first leave it does nothing to help you get over the anger, bitterness and feelings of revenge against the GRC long term. In fact the very opposite is true and those sort of emotions if left to fester are VERY destructive to your health.

Constant media interviews about Cam & Tays past attendance at the GRC may only bring it back into their lives and a past they may rather move on from. Thats my concern anyway.

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(Date Posted:12/06/2010 9:08 PM)

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Also bear in mind that some people just want to move on from the GRC and get on with their lives. They dont want the constant reminder of it hanging over their heads. Some counsellors suggest one of the best ways to get over something is to STOP surrounding yourself with information about the thing you are trying to overcome. ..................................

Constant media interviews about Cam & Tays past attendance at the GRC may only bring it back into their lives and a past they may rather move on from. Thats my concern anyway.


I agree with 'The Crying Room', Cameron has chosen to say that he did/does his singing in the kitchen, rather than saying how he blessed us with his singing at camp and meetings..

Taylor may have been thrown out by Hollins for going on the show, but, WOW, what a blessing in disguise.

Their very presence on Australia's Got Talent is testimony itself to all of the people still in the GRC of 'an abundant life' outside the confines of the sheltered life one lives while in the place.

They have certainly made a great impression on a lot of folk, including the judges. They are indeed a beautiful family.

Why spoil the image, by bringing up the fact that they once belonged to a destructive cult. The memory of the GRC for some of them, would just be a dark shadow which they have very successfully moved away from.

They are living NOW and enjoying life!! They are able to fulfill dreams that would otherwise have been crushed.

All the very best wishes to both of them. May they go on to prosper and entertain millions in the time to come.

They have a' GOD GIVEN' talent. This is something that Noel ALWAYS forgets.

I can't wait for Tuesday night.

Cheers,

Glad


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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:15/06/2010 5:31 AM)

Wow, didn't Cameron and Taylor do well tonight!!!

Cameron was runner-up and will sing the National Anthem at the Grand Final.

Guess when Noel calls the September prayer and fast. That's right Grand Final day!




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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:16/06/2010 4:57 PM)

headlines on the front page of geelong Advertiser "GOD OR GLORY", Noel is quoted as saying, " he was given some options and made decisions and he's a free person. He had the opportunity to make his own decision and thats all there is to it." Pastor Hollins said yersterday.
 Nice one Noel, you've passed the buck onto Taylor saying it was his decision, but what you didn't say was that if taylor had decided to stay on Australias Got taleant AND stay in the Geelong Revival Centre, that you would have kicked him out of your little inconsequential church.   You wasted space, why did'nt you say the truth and really state what you are on about. You don't care about people and their achievements in life, and being able to follow a God in your Church. You only want "nothings" in your Church who can't challenge or question you through  their achievements.
 
To those GRC people who read this site it is about time you stood up to Noel. have a look at your children, what hope have they in life after this effort by Noel. Your kids have no hope to achieve things with whatever talent they have because Noel will shoot them down to live a life of drudgery.     
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(Date Posted:16/06/2010 8:42 PM)

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A tragic part to this is that Hollin’s “freewill” doctrine leaves some people in fear of “hell”; leave GRC you leave the Lord. I’m sure Cameron and Taylor don’t have this issue as it comes through in their heart felt performances but it can be a problem for some that leave and even those considering being free from that prison.

As for hearing “little voices” the Gospel shouts out the message loud and clear for all to hear and see Revival cults are not to be a part of.

 


I used to think that I would go to hell if I ever left the GRC. But most would agree its gone way beyond that.  The whole fear factor is just not there anymore. It's more a case that certain family members are likely to sever ties with other members if they leave, it's clearly obvious to most that attend that Noel Hollins is not lead by God and that he has comitted some terrible crimes against members of that organisation. You would have to be blind, deaf and particularly stupid if you thought for one moment that you are in danger of hell and damnation if you leave the GRC. You may have your old dears who havent had a life for 50 years outside that are terrified.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:16/06/2010 9:30 PM)

You're a liar Noel Hollins. You didnt give TH a free choice. You booted him out. The lies keep pouring out of that filthy mouth of yours. You would'nt know how to be honest. Once again you have just pooped in your own nest.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:16/06/2010 10:09 PM)

How cool it will be hearing Cameron sing our National Anthem 'Advance Australia Fair' in front of 100,000 people and millions on TV at the MCG on the AFL Grand Final day ... a far cry from singing 'God Save The Queen' at camp on New years Eve
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How cool it will be hearing Cameron sing our National Anthem 'Advance Australia Fair' in front of 100,000 people and millions on TV at the MCG on the AFL Grand Final day ... a far cry from singing 'God Save The Queen' at camp on New years Eve

        .........  and it will be broadcast around the World too  !!!!!!    Did you see the expression on Cameron's face when he was told  ?  This is better than winning First Place and better to let Justice Crew have the prize money to help them along. I think it was a win win for everyone and as for perfoming singers they have come first. Congratulations to both Cameron and Taylor.

P.S.   I voted for you both
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:16/06/2010 10:29 PM)

I hope that the reporter who quoted 'Brett' in today's Addy is continuing to monitor this site!!!!

Channel 7 or 9, can't remember which, had their chance to expose the GRC for what it is years ago.

Maybe because Australia has taken Cameron and Taylor to their hearts, they might have another go.

All credit to Taylor and Cameron for keeping quiet, they have more important things to concentrate on now.

It doesn't matter which teams play in the Grand Final , it will be a very special day now, with Cameron singing the National Anthem.

Lets hope all the members of the GRC get to see it 'live' and that Noel doesn't call a 'prayer and fast' with special admonishment to those who might be thinking of not going.




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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:17/06/2010 12:07 AM)

If you recorded the last Australia's Got Talent...Barry is sitting in the row behind Taylor.
Just read Taylor's last quote in today's Geelong Advertiser 17.06.2010 "I'm still taking it in," he said. "I was walking through town and people were congratulating me and I was thinking it's sad it's all finished."

It's only FINISHED if he goes back to the GRC.


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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:17/06/2010 4:05 AM)

Noel...and all those like you how dare you take the beautiful true words of the lord and turn them into your own sick, twisted and even perverted ramblings in order to seek nothing but control and power. You are disgraceful, dispicable, immoral and a walking, talking hypocrit. god himself would be totally ashamed and embarrassed of you. its religious fanatical, twisted freaks like you that have caused so much pain murder death and destruction throughout the world. you make me sick.
we do not need sicko's like you in this country.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:17/06/2010 5:03 AM)

This reminds me so much of story I hear in Sunday school once, about the fool who buried the talent his master gave him.  

I think, however,  this quote by H.G. Wells sums this up pretty well:  "Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo." 

How sad it is that this indignate and pious pastor can't embrace and appreciate the God given gifts of this remarkable father and son duo.   Maybe Taylor should join Guy Sebastian's warm and welcoming church?  (I'm assuming he hasnt' been kicked out of his church.)    

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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:17/06/2010 5:33 AM)

Revival church demands Taylor Henderson give up TV stardom

Alex Oates - Geelong Advertiser

June 17th, 2010

GEELONG'S newest superstar has been embroiled in claims the church he grew up in tried to force him to give up stardom.

Australia's Got Talent finalist Taylor Henderson, 17, was given an ultimatum to quit the show or be banished from the Geelong Revival Centre, it was revealed yesterday.

It is believed Pastor Noel Hollins told Taylor to choose between the church and his place on the Channel 7 reality show.

"He was given some options and made decisions and he's a free person," Pastor Hollins said yesterday.
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"He had the opportunity to make his own decision and that's all there is to it."

News of the ultimatum surfaced less than 24 hours after Taylor and his father Cameron surged to stardom in Tuesday night's Australia's Got Talent grand final.

Cameron, 42, was runner-up to Sydney-based dance group Justice Crew, while Taylor won enough nationwide votes to finish third.

The pair were at the family's Ceres property yesterday coming to grips with their stardom as music industry offers began pouring in.

Even the Geelong Advertiser was contacted by a company hopeful of signing Cameron to a contract.

The Hendersons declined to comment on the controversy, instead choosing to focus on their careers.

However, a former Geelong Revival Centre member who wished to remain anonymous, yesterday revealed details on the saga.

"Three weeks ago, he was marched to the pastor's office and given an ultimatum: give up the competition or don't attend the church and he chose the competition," he said.

"Australia's Got Talent  is considered worldly, a way of making a living. Certain careers in Geelong Revival Centre are not considered ethical or spiritual.

"It's unlikely for a lawyer to be part of the Geelong Revival Centre ... careers for women are frowned upon. This church is divided. It divides people and families."

Word on Taylor's plight spread quickly on an internet forum developed by ex-members of the Geelong Revival Centre.

One person, known as Brett, said the decision to banish Taylor was poor.

"How utterly typical. Will Noel ever realise that he has pretty much single-handedly killed the moving of the Spirit in the GRC?"

"Taylor and Cameron have that talent or gift, why not use it and share it with those less fortunate."


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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:17/06/2010 5:36 AM)

This pastor is turning young people away from religion rather than encouraging them.  Guy Sebastian and others belong to a church and their church has not turned them away, if anything people will be drawn to the church knowing the nice clean living and loving effect it has on them.
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
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(Date Posted:17/06/2010 6:11 AM)

Story now picked up by the Herald Sun:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/australias-got-talent-finalist-taylor-henderson-forced-to-choose-tv-stardom-or-geelong-church/story-e6frf96o-1225880976537

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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:17/06/2010 8:51 AM)

Who do you think you are? Taylor Henderson isn't doing anything evil, immoral or wrong, he is only a kid, a very polite and well mannered 16 yr old who happens to be talented. What message are you trying to send him by kicking him out of your church? You really are unbelievable.....what sort of church is the Geelong Revival Centre? By doing what you have - you're basically sending the message to the rest of the country that you are some sort of weird cult with weird and unusual beliefs...I don't know your church - never heard of it until now, but if I were Taylor Henderson I would be happy to leave your bizarre little centre. 
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RE:Geelongs Has Talent
(Date Posted:17/06/2010 6:16 PM)

The judges could see a goodness in Taylor this is the Lords goodness Hollins is so blind he cant see it.
I hope this experience doesnt make Taylor bitter.He can be used to give kids hope in this dark world, hollins,addison,bryden,griggs etc are just adding to that darkness.

Mat 6:23 But if your eye is evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!



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RE:Geelong Has Talent
(Date Posted:18/06/2010 6:21 PM)

Now back to the Hendersons. As we all know, Taylor has been put out of GRC fellowship. And we know what that means. Noel gave a talk last wednesday and I am led to believe that he reinteriated  his policy re members being out of fellowship, and that is DO NOT  TALK TO THEM , DO NOT OFFER COMFORT, SUPPORT OR SYMPATHY. IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO TALK TO THEM THEN SEE ME (NOEL HOLLINS) FOR ADVICE.  Now for the kicker to the Hendersons, we know that taylor and his family don't go to the GRC. Did you see the Aust. Got talent final? Did you see the audience shot of Taylor's family, did you see who was sitting behind Taylor and his family, yes thats right, sitting behind was Barry and Jan, We all know that Barry no longer attends the GRC, but Jan still attends. Ok Noel, what are you going to do now? Current GRC  attendees are  not allowed to comfort and support out of fellowship GRCers'. ARE YOU NOW GOING TO KICK OUT TAYLOR'S GRANDMOTHER, JAN HENDERSON?

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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:18/06/2010 9:09 PM)

Amazing talent, by both father and son. This pastor Noel must be so greedy for power and control of other people's lives. To use that power to split families up from their church, friends and loved one's is a crime. An even bigger crime is to use that power and control to split families apart. An evil and un-Christian act. 
My partner left the church and was shunned by family/friends. It made my partner such a strong willed and wonderfully colorful person. 
More power to Cameron, hope he realizes that life doesn't end upon leaving that place.
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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:18/06/2010 9:49 PM)

When I was a kid I was in the GRC and I went onto the Early Bird Show, after that I got into hugh trouble for going on the show, I was told somthing along the lines of saved people don't go on TV it worldly and to never do it again, man I just wanted to meet Marty the Monster!
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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:18/06/2010 11:42 PM)

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Just heard Noel has given Taylor a choice... What can you say? Any young people who might have thought about going to the grc as a result of Taylor's testimony and talents will hear and be turned off by Noel. How utterly typical. Will Noel ever realise that he has pretty much single-handedly killed the moving of the Spirit in the grc?
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Hey Noel... I'm tempted to say I told you so...

In 2000 we were also given an ultimatum in the Philippines. To continue teaching things we had discovered were lies and fables (The British Israel doctrine) or that we'd be kicked out of the GRC. Noel told us our salvation depended on believing the British Israel doctrine (no mention of Jesus) Noel lied to us about coming to Manila, refused to answer any questions we raised about the truth of British Israelism and in the end said if we left (The Philippines) quietly (so that he could quietly take over the Philippine churches) he'd take care of all the expenses that entailed. Otherwise...

We chose otherwise. As a result we were utterly shunned by all our friends and family associated with the GRC. Noel predicted ruin for the Philippine churches which has not happened. When my mother-in-law died of cancer in that group we weren't even informed and the funeral was rushed so that Brett (her son) could not attend.

In 2000 I discovered the truth about Noel Hollins. He is a megalomaniac (control freak). He believes that his is the only group that has the 'truth' and that unless you are a member of that group (or its affiliates) you have no assurance of salvation. It is isolationist and sectarian to an extreme.

When I was 22 I was 'advised' to quit teachers college. I was not given any reason. I already had been indoctrinated by the understanding that to go against any 'advice' given by the ministry was tantamount to rebellion against God. So when people say you have freewill there it is not strictly true. I was told what to wear, how often my boyfriend could visit, how often he could call me, (we were both in our mid 20s) how long our engagement had to be, when we could marry, who we could invite to our wedding, where we could live (ie near the GRC). We were told how to bring up our children (ie to beat them till their will was broken) When we had pastoral visits we were told how our family life should be organised. We were made to feel guilty for not beating our kids regularly, to feel a bit unclean if we ate pork. When we lived in Australia camp was pretty much compulsory, as was attendance at Sunday and midweek meetings, and young people's meetings. As a woman I was expected to refer to Brett as 'my husband' at all times and whenever there was any problem it was 'understood' that it was because I wasn't 'submissive' enough.

Freedom in the GRC is no freedom at all but a requirement to be obedient to a complex set of social rules. If you break one of these rules you feel guilty - nevermind that these are not rules in the New Testament but a pick and choose of assorted Levitical laws and in many cases simply rules that Noel made up to control you. (For example teenage boys and girls are virtually banned from talking to each other in meetings.) Over the years more and more rules have been added - like the automatic two year expulsion for any sexual immorality. Back in the 70s and 80s a couple who 'did the wrong thing' was expected to marry and basically that was that. But over the years the punishment got more and more severe. Who gave Noel permission to do that? It's not in the Bible. That is legalism

You have NO freedom to think for yourself in the GRC. My partner used to be in the 'inner circle' of GRC ministers so we have some idea of what went on behind the scenes. What we saw/heard was Noel wanted total control. I remember him saying in 1995 after BH left that it was more important than ever that people look to him. He also told Brett that as a pastor he had to teach what Noel taught and say what Noel said. Is that freedom?

Noel condemns the papacy but he has become a pope in the GRC.

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(Date Posted:19/06/2010 1:25 AM)

Don't they do singing, Dancing,  and Drama at school, ?? Shouldn't Hollins then tell all the school kids to leave school.  Absolutely Ridiculous

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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:19/06/2010 2:20 AM)

If Noel kicks out people for being on TV because it's "worldy" then he should kick himself out for being on the radio in the 1050's-1960's

The following is from the Jan-Feb 1959 Voice of Revival magazine advertising Noel Hollins radio program on 3GL 



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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:19/06/2010 4:00 AM)

I remember Nat de Palma once telling me that on one of his trips to Canada he met Danni Minogue, he witnessed to her, he said that she wanted to get saved but she didn't because she didn't want to give up her career. 

Funny how the circle of life keeps turning  -
- Nat de Palma gave up his music career  to follow the GRC (he was the drummer in a band with Darryl Cotten). 
- He then tries to convert Danni who chose her career over being a GRC'er
- Danni discovers Taylor who is kicked out of GRC for a music career

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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:19/06/2010 6:42 AM)

My ,my, my, how the world turns, how History Repeats Itself. 
     
                      When I began this Topic ... Geelong Has Talent,  I knew that Cameron and Taylor would be targeted by Nasty Noel and something would be said in print ..... you don't have to be Einstein to see that coming, but wow, has it gone ballistic ! .....  and the joke is , that it is all of Dopey Noddy Noel's own doing.  He has brought all upon himself with his own Weird Cultilistic Rules.
                      Last Wednesday night's Combined Meeting in Norlane saw the paint burning off the walls of the platform and since then the newspapers have had a field day with this story and this Cult Mentality of Noel Hollins. 
                    Australia Has Talent is Channel 7's Baby and heaven help anyone who who touches it !  Channel 7 won't let this slip by them , it is already  National  News and it is being watched by International TV as well.  Noel Hollins is into this up to his neck and he cannot stop it.  Again , it is of his own making, so what does he do ? What has he done ?  .......  
                                     " Call a Prayer and fast" !   Lock the doors and Batten down the hatches!
      Noel Hollins has gone into damage control.
 
   
                   Now bare in mind, he must be under great and intense pressure here and hence he has called a Prayer and Fast ,  ie.  his " Comfort Zone",  where he can stand tall and preside ( dictate)  over the Flock. We can well imagine what is being said there and the mood in that Hall.  I dare say that Hades would have to be a cooler place to be today than on those bench seats, with ears burning red-hot and the guilt trip that must be pouring out upon them all from the tongue lashing they would be receiving ......" Pray you Bastards - Pray !"
                
                  Noel Hollins is now in his eightieth year as he was born in1930, and this weeks events has thrust huge attention upon him and all of his beliefs being brought into question Nationally. This would place enormous pressure upon anyone, body mind and spirit. So how will things unfold and how long can he last ? 
Then will come the next stage, if there is no Noel, will they select a new pastor? or will they fight to who the  suiter may be? or well the Flock finally see an opportunity to get out while they can while they squabble amongst themselves?
                  Either way, many are going to get hurt here as they flee or are flogged because of the Spiritual Abuse they have incurred.  To all those who are in or out of the GRC Pty. Ltd., now is the time for you to think hard and get serious about your future.   Questions are going to be asked and you need to speak up and answer. Channel 7 will be about and may approach you for information. Don't be afraid, as they can keep you anonymous, blurr you image and change your voice and no-one will be the wiser. They are only interested in Noel Hollins Story - not yours.

                 Is this the end of the Fourth Reich ? Has the time finally come ?  It won't unless you speak up and be heard  !  Be prepared and be hopeful, there is life after Noel Hollins......


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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:19/06/2010 9:55 PM)

by supporting Cameron n Taylor, and speaking out, the "church" will grasp this as the worlds is agianst them, justifying themselves to be the only true chosen church. I was just reminded this, and yes its true. Im sure we can all recall the talks on how we were only hated and debused? defamed? because we were the chosen ones.
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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:19/06/2010 11:55 PM)

Are you people for real?

You kicked these two out of your Church because they sang on TV?

If this is true, you really need to take a good hard look at yourselves and what your 'ideals' are.

Don't you dare use the name GOD and your actions in the same sentence!

This is sounds more like the work of an evil little man with an agenda trying to control his constitiuents, and not of those who do His work, with love in their hearts.

Shame, shame, shame...
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(Date Posted:20/06/2010 1:02 AM)

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by supporting Cameron n Taylor, and speaking out, the "church" will grasp this as the worlds is agianst them, justifying themselves to be the only true chosen church. I was just reminded this, and yes its true. Im sure we can all recall the talks on how we were only hated and debused? defamed? because we were the chosen ones.


Yes its unfortunate that they would be sucked into thinking that. It is true that Christians are persecuted and the Bible states that this will happen, but Hitler was also persucuted and many other dictators. Noel is not being persecuted because of Christ or the Gospel but because he ruins peoples lives and preaches a false gospel and a heap of other reasons. I pray that people that are under his brainwashing will look to their Bibles with eyes open and not think when something is bothering them about Noel that it is Satan getting in their ear. It is more likely God or even their own concsience showing them Truth. Its interesting too, on the subject of Hitler how his motivation and methods of gaining power are similar to our friend Noel. Hitler just managed to gain more disciples. Watching video of Hitler he shows affection to children. I believe even Hitler had more ability to love than Noel. I have never seen a person with so little compassion and natural affection, even to his own grandchildren he was always cold and distant. I feel sorry for him in  a way. I doubt he understands the joy of love.
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. I believe even Hitler had more ability to love than Noel. I have never seen a person with so little compassion and natural affection, even to his own grandchildren he was always cold and distant. I feel sorry for him in  a way. I doubt he understands the joy of love.

To be perfectly frank, if the love of God were to be manifest in Noel Hollins, there would be associated signs such as; lovingkindness, mercy, longsuffering, gentleness, etc... But you only get those things if you're a man accustomed to walking in the Spirit. I doubt that Noel Hollins has ever really "walked in the Spirit" - if he had, the GRC and its associated assemblies would look much different today. Hopefully, when the GRC falls into a heap (as it needs to), some will rise out of the ashes and preach the truth and guide others along that path that leads to life eternal. I'm afraid that under Hollins' ministry, the assemblies are following Noel Hollins on a path to destruction - no doubt about it!

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(Date Posted:20/06/2010 4:47 AM)

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Noel is not being persecuted because of Christ or the Gospel but because he ruins peoples lives and preaches a false gospel and a heap of other reasons.

Prezy, Noel is not being persecuted at all. He is being challenged, asked to answer for his actions and even accused of crimes he may or may not have committed. But he has not been persecuted. Persecution is not merely opposition.

Persecute: To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or beliefs.

Noel's freedom has not been limited in any way, he has not been oppressed or ill-treated and he continues to carry on as he did before. He cannot claim persecution.
Religious persecution in Australia is very rare, ALMOST NON-EXISTENT.


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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:20/06/2010 5:23 AM)

you know whats also very funny? Cameron & Taylor may have come second & third because the members of the GRC voted for him!
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(Date Posted:20/06/2010 8:11 AM)

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Noel is not being persecuted because of Christ or the Gospel but because he ruins peoples lives and preaches a false gospel and a heap of other reasons.

Prezy, Noel is not being persecuted at all. He is being challenged, asked to answer for his actions and even accused of crimes he may or may not have committed. But he has not been persecuted. Persecution is not merely opposition.

Persecute: To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or beliefs.

Noel's freedom has not been limited in any way, he has not been oppressed or ill-treated and he continues to carry on as he did before. He cannot claim persecution.
Religious persecution in Australia is very rare, ALMOST NON-EXISTENT.

Well, goodness me!!!!! 

So, the dictionary definition of persecution, is EXACTLY what Noel has been doing to his followers for years.
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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:20/06/2010 5:49 PM)

RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
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you know whats also very funny? Cameron & Taylor may have come second & third because the members of the GRC voted for him!
 
Yeah and the funny thing about Taylor and Cameron is that they are both untrained musicians who went onto the  show with no real ambitions to win or even to get as far as they did. They went on as a duo act. the judges splitt them up, they sang their own songs, about  themselves, their family. it was all from their heart. and they beat all those trained musicians and other acts.
The winning group, Justice Crew, were also an untrained act. They did it themselves and I am led to believe christian based.
No cameron and taylor didn't come 2nd or 3rd . they came 1st. along with the Justice Crew.   
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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
(Date Posted:20/06/2010 7:53 PM)

Remember when Richard 'playstation" Hollins went on the USA basketball tour? A posting 6/1/07 in the Tour Notice Board, quotes a KAREN, in reply to a question " Describe in a word or a sentence the best part of the tour thus far !" A; Karen - Exciting opportunity. , Playstations' answer was. "Rich - Awesome, good" ,

Anyway, I think it is appropriate to say a big thank you to Len, Karen & Playstation HOLLINS, in sticking it right up Noel and doing something that many, many GRC families have been wanting to do for years and that is just doing things when the opportunity arises and not letting the GRC lifestyle interfer with your lifestyle. I am sure that Len, Karen and Richard have not forsaken the Lord, and that the trip will not interfer with their spiritual life. For years GRC families have had to say no to these events, they have had to stop their children from attending school camps, staying over with unsaved school friends, forsake the silly harmless things of this word such as events like Xmas and Easter, pursue sporting prowess, be members of clubs etc. The list goes on. But now we have a family that is a part of Noels family, albeit Len only being his step child, nonetheless, a family member who has broken free of the stupid GRC rules. Now every kid in the GRC will be able to go on Yr 7 school camps and do all those forbidden things.  Well done Len, Karen and Richard, you are true champions in the great Aussie spirit.

And remember people, when you come across such wankers as Greg Gerardi, Peter Cordone, and the likes, who forsake things of the world because of Noels misguided teachings, don't forget to ask them for a comment about Len and Karen basketball trip  

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RE:GEELONG HAS TALENT!
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