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RE:families destrpyed
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 4:55 AM)

Dear, dear Prezzy. How out of proportion can your incredibly selective replies be?

Man-hater? Why, because I said that I don't bow the knee to any man, only God? Ah, yes. And from this you infer that I must be a 'man-hater'.

You couldn't be more wrong. I love men. I am a woman after all. And I have many men in my life who I respect, admire enormously. I also defer to them when they provide me with excellent and productive advice which has my best interests at heart. My father was the most precious person I've ever known.

On this forum, however, I do not see any good, productive forces at work. All Ian has subjected me to is bile.

Please see post below as to my true feelings.
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Re:families destrpyed
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 5:14 AM)

Oh yeah, I forgot one from my list of the cult-like attributes of this forum, as dictated by Ian.

* Demonisation and vililfication of rebels so that they a) conform to leader's wishes or b) leave.

Many have left here in the past, eh? Wonder why.
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RE:families destrpyed
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 5:22 AM)

AN&S,

Well, you've made your feelings abundantly clear. This being the case, what do you think you're achieving by continuing with your tirade of abuse? You came, you pontificated, you shat all over the forum, so now you can leave and embrace the company of those you'd much prefer.

Goose.

Ian
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Reply to Guest, friend of UK cultwatch
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 5:25 AM)

Hi Guest

When you warn your UK cultwatch site, might I suggest you post a link to this particular thread, as I believe it will prove most enlightening to your readers there.

BTW A little reality therapy:

re your pt 8) Ian has already pointed out that he referred to IP addresses b/c you continue to be discourteous by refusing to use a consistent nom-de-plume to identify yourself to enable him to know who is addressing him

re your pt 9) Moth, Dog and Glad - for starters - most definitely do not see things from Ian's perspective

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RE:families destrpyed
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 5:32 AM)

Now, these are just a few things that make me think Ian has really got lots of you under his thumb, just a bit too much.  
I'm sorry if, Moth, you are offended. I can feel that even before I post, but tough.

God, don't apologise. I find all this thoroughly entertaining. I'm just hoping you don't stop too soon, because heck... I'm just fascinated by anyone with passion such as yours, and I'm completely fascinated by people with obsessions. Boo hoo hoo... your forum's a cult and you're all bullys. You all hate women and blah blah.

I think Ian is an intriguing guy, and is the sort of dude who has an opinion I appreciate when I'm in a pinch. I value him as an online friend. I'm no Christian, but it's my favourite religion out of all of 'em - lol. You'd know I wasn't a Christian hey, because you're an expert at pointing the bone at 'real' Christians and otherwise, huh? Now THAT little judgement on other people is exactly what Revivalists do. See what I did there? It seems the ultimate 'insult' is to compare people to 'Revival' or 'cults'. Heck, the principal at my school and the outfit he runs fits the 'cult' criteria.

Ian's a big personality and I've been following his antics here for years. There's no one else on the planet who has his knowledge and savvy when it comes to dealing with the 'demon' of Revival doctrine. He's no social worker, and we don't have social workers on this site, so if you're looking for professional shoulders to cry on... well, maybe this isn't the perfect place for you. Not that we haven't had incredibly awesome and empathetic people visit the forum over the years. There's a dozen people I could name who will share a tear, and offer a prayer. But you come on here, and attack attack attack, and get all Galienish on everyone's asses and expect 'love'?

And 'offended'? Me? Heck, nothing you've said offends me. I don't get offended by anything apart from people who badmouth what I consider quality television. I'm a bit offended by the haircut I paid too much money for. It looks like I've got a mullet! God damn outback salons.


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Reply To Guest
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 5:41 AM)

Reply to Guest

Oh yeah, I forgot one from my list of the cult-like attributes of this forum, as dictated by Ian.
* Demonisation and vililfication of rebels so that they a) conform to leader's wishes or b) leave.
Many have left here in the past, eh? Wonder why.

Maybe they're LESS obsessive than others, and have got over it? (Gotten over it?... is gotten a word?)

Anyway, as long as you confine yourself to this destroyed 'families destroyed' thread then don't leave. Stay. Ian's not the bloody leader here. He just acts like it :P He is very near his 2000th post and I'm hoping to fill this thread with 190 meaningless posts so that I can catch up.

Yep, we're EXACTLY like a cult here at Aimoo. Make sure if you continue to enjoy yourself harassing the regulars and making yourself a fixture, please make sure you 'donate' to the Magnificant Moddy. She only asks for 5% percent of your income. That's HALF what the cults ask for! A bargain for a public forum without advertisements, imo.

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Re:families destrpyed
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 6:07 AM)

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Re:families destrpyed
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 10:46 AM)

Lovely language that Ian.

Not what I'd expect from someone who is supposed to be in a respectable kind of position in the world, but maybe that's not the case.

Let me explain to the others as they have interfered without knowing the exact occurance of events.

I intially posted on here, my 'Spirit Soared' post, in order that I could express something in a manner I felt would be cathartic because of said issue, that you have so blatantly disregarded.

I did not come here to make enemies. But you chose to target and vilify me from the beginning, and quite frankly, Ian, I'm not going to accept it.

Some of my first posts were very supportive of you. I thought you were doing a great job at refuting Revivalist theology. However, my first post was not related to theology issues. Nevertheless, as a Christian I am obviously very interested in them. That is why I continued to log on and read some of your replies to others with admiration, almost. However, I was slightly concerned at how you responded to some other people, who you seemed to talk down to, as if they were entirely stupid.

You then decided to target something else I wrote, stupidly, I admit. But your reaction was so disgusting I only had one option. I stood up for myself, and since then it has been ongoing from you - unable to concede when you have overstepped the mark.

You bring it on yourself. Not everyone is in awe of you, Ian. Certainly not me.

Goodbye.
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Re:families destrpyed
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 11:06 AM)

Thank you Moth, that was almost a compliment.

Au revoir tout le monde......

Going off to the Spirit in the Sky.....

Oh yes, and Talmud, if I had not been demonised and vilified by Ian the Bully I would most certainly have called myself 'Tiger'. Happy now?

Grrrrr....

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Reply to Tiger
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 2:21 PM)

 Hi

Why would I be "happy" when my point was that you did not use a nom-de-plume to identify yourself, and that was why Ian says he checked your IP address? You would have still been anonymous.

BTW might I suggest you check out the difference between Talm*i*d (my actual nom-de-plume) and Talm*u*d (what you've read into it).

Anyway, all the best for the future.


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RE:families destrpyed
(Date Posted:25/01/2011 6:26 PM)

AN&S,

Lovely language that Ian. My choice of word was intentional, and full of biblical precedent. The Old Testament in Hebrew is very 'earthy', and Paul himself even used a Greek word that has precisely the same meaning and rhetorical impact as does our English word, 'sh*t' (of course one can find in the KJV the expression 'pi*s' in an number of places too). Not what I'd expect from someone who is supposed to be in a respectable kind of position in the world, but maybe that's not the case. Perhaps it's more the case that you simply don't understand how languages function in different cultures; that sometimes a word not normally used can be applied selectively in order to make an impact?

Let me explain to the others as they have interfered without knowing the exact occurance of events. Don't be so sure that the 'others' are ignorant of the chain-of-events, especially given that the entire series of posts is available to be read by all and sundry. I intially posted on here, my 'Spirit Soared' post, in order that I could express something in a manner I felt would be cathartic because of said issue, that you have so blatantly disregarded. And yet you intentionally engaged in libel by doing so, but without having the personal courage to 'own' your comments. I did not come here to make enemies. I suppose you should consider such to be an inevitable 'secondary effect' of your posting tone and style, then. You clearly haven't been trying to make friends! But you chose to target and vilify me from the beginning, and quite frankly, Ian, I'm not going to accept it. Actually, it was you who targetted and vilified others right from the 'get go', and it was you who lied, right from the 'get go'. Sadly, you've kept at both since, and then in spite of several people remonstrating with you. I can only assume, therefore, that you struggle with accepting correction, yet another character trait unbecoming of someone who claims to being Christian.

Some of my first posts were very supportive of you. I thought you were doing a great job at refuting Revivalist theology. What? I should be thankful?! However, my first post was not related to theology issues. Nevertheless, as a Christian I am obviously very interested in them. Apparently your interest wasn't sufficent to moderate your behaviours. That is why I continued to log on and read some of your replies to others with admiration, almost. However, I was slightly concerned at how you responded to some other people, who you seemed to talk down to, as if they were entirely stupid. Please let me remind you that your perception doesn't necessarily equal reality.

You then decided to target something else I wrote, stupidly, I admit. This is the very first admission of wrongdoing from you, and it's been a very long time coming. But your reaction was so disgusting I only had one option. I stood up for myself, and since then it has been ongoing from you - unable to concede when you have overstepped the mark. My reaction was 'disgusting'? Pointing out that you were deceitful was 'disgusting'? Did you repent of the lie? Did you confess it? Did you write, 'oops, I'm sorry that was a mistake'? 'No', not you. What you did was what you've done since arriving on this forum. You demonstrated your inner character by maliciously engaging in a running series of personal attacks. So none of this is about me; this is all about you and your behaviour, and it's about time that you accepted as much.

You bring it on yourself. Not everyone is in awe of you, Ian. Certainly not me. Have you noticed how keenly you seek to absolve yourself of blame? Have you noticed how readily you are to redirect attention away from your behaviour by trying to find fault with others? Let's be blunt, shall we? You're bemoaning the fact that your actions have led to this point. You're bemoaning the fact that you brought this upon yourself. It's not about me; it's not about any of the other 'bullies' that you find lurking around every corner here. It's you.

I mentioned in one of our earlier engagements that not everyone who visits or posts here is naive. Some of us have considerable experience of dealing with duplicitous, agenda-laden people, and they invariably get short shrift when their actions warrant it. You've since discovered this for yourself.

Goodbye. That would be best, I think.

Ian

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(Date Posted:25/01/2011 7:07 PM)

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189 to go

  oh motho !!!


... cheers Eric..
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