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(Date Posted:20/11/2010 6:58 PM)
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What will they use all the guns for as they have in CAI?
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Re:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:20/11/2010 11:28 PM)

Mostly, they were meant for protection/self defense when one of the prophecied events finally would hit and bring anarchy with it, therefore forcing CAI members to retreat to their designated 'shelters':

- Russian invasion of Europe
- WWIII
- Y2K
- Indonesian/Japanese invasion of Australia


I probably forgot some. But basically, CAI people are meant to be able to defend themselves and their worldly goods when one of the above events strikes and all the 'heathens' around them run through life with no other thought than plundering/burning and murdering CAI people for their stockpiles of food and blankets.

That's the official version anyway and I haven't heard another one.

JP
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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:20/11/2010 11:58 PM)

Guest,

But basically, CAI people are meant to be able to defend themselves and their worldly goods when one of the above events strikes and all the 'heathens' around them run through life with no other thought than plundering/burning and murdering CAI people for their stockpiles of food and blankets. CAI must stand for, 'Crazy Apocalyptic' Idiots'. Just as was the case with the ill-fated 'Branch Davidians' the CAI has: (1) their own 'Waco-'like 'compounds'; (2) their own cache of firearms; (3) a unique take on Christian 'end times'; (4) sexual misconduct rife among their leaders; and (5) their very own 'David Koresh'-like Messiah figure!

Be afraid, people! Be very afraid!

Blessings,

Ian

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(Date Posted:21/11/2010 1:01 AM)

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Mostly, they were meant for protection/self defense when one of the prophecied events finally would hit and bring anarchy with it, therefore forcing CAI members to retreat to their designated 'shelters':



That's the official version anyway and I haven't heard another one.

JP

Talk about crazy. And where have they stored their armory and what does this armory consist of ??? .. I suppose the NSW police and ADF would not be too pleased if this armory should be hidden away in the back hills of little ole Coff's Harbour... That is if such an armory does exist .. and possession of unlicensed fire arms is an indictable offense in all Australian states as far as I am aware ..

Tut Tut these guys are nuts

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Re:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:21/11/2010 5:16 PM)

Actually, most fire arms would be licensed. People were told to obtain a license/permit and keep it up according to regulations, so they would be stored in the respective people's homes. Since the NSW police has the right to enter any home at any time to inspect the safe keeping of licensed fire arms, those are kept according to regulations. Don't forget, CAI people are told not to bring any shame on the CAI and therefore will obey these kind of rules. At least where there is a danger of discovery if they would not do so.

As far as I'm aware of, there's only perhaps one rifle that might not be licensed but that is, in fact, a rumour that I cannot prove or disprove.



Ian, you've never been a member of the CAI so why do you constantly hang about here and judge members as well as ex-members? Sweep in front of your own door before trying to clean up other people's places.


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(Date Posted:21/11/2010 5:38 PM)

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Actually, most fire arms would be licensed. People were told to obtain a license/permit and keep it up according to regulations, so they would be stored in the respective people's homes. Since the NSW police has the right to enter any home at any time to inspect the safe keeping of licensed fire arms, those are kept according to regulations. Don't forget, CAI people are told not to bring any shame on the CAI and therefore will obey these kind of rules. At least where there is a danger of discovery if they would not do so.

As far as I'm aware of, there's only perhaps one rifle that might not be licensed but that is, in fact, a rumour that I cannot prove or disprove.



Ian, you've never been a member of the CAI so why do you constantly hang about here and judge members as well as ex-members? Sweep in front of your own door before trying to clean up other people's places.


JP

Hi JP,

I am not speaking for Ian but it is obvious that Ian is only expressing an observation that is in my opinion the view of the majority of folk who visit these boards do hold. Ian is not judging at all to be quite frank and given that abuse has been extended to minors (persons under 18 years of age), I would heed Ian's public views quite seriously.

Eric
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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:21/11/2010 8:29 PM)

Good afternoon, JP.

Ian, you've never been a member of the CAI so why do you constantly hang about here and judge members as well as ex-members? One doesn't need to have been a member of your former sect to be able to judge it against the normative standard of Scripture. Sweep in front of your own door before trying to clean up other people's places. My doorstep is well swept and is clear of debris.

Blessings,

Ian

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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:23/11/2010 6:43 AM)

Ian is actually healthy for us, not enough people who left CAI have taken some time to step back from the "church" and consider the beliefs we had entrenched into our mind/ being and consider any of the correct meaning and context of the scriptures. Sometimes I wish I had a day or two to ask him about a gazillion questions - just on the correct meaning of certain scriptures.

Guns in the hands of men who believe they are above the law- NEVER a good thing.


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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:23/11/2010 3:12 PM)

Ian,
one reason they haven't freaked yet like other groups (Koresh etc) might be that they actually aren't as dumb as USAmericans. Most of the people actually enyoyed a school education beyond racist extremism.

That is one thing driving fat leaking dick willie crazy - that his folk is not as thick as he is. (will never forget when he wrote - in red - that "every idiot knows these days that Saddam hides weapons of mass destruction" - that was the very moment when I lost the last bit of trust in that disgustingly false prophet)

However, CAI folk are naive, loyal and brain washed enough to follow him on his road to hell.

(not all though - another one quit in Germany recently as he could not stand the lies of Lars Finke anymore)
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(Date Posted:24/11/2010 9:12 AM)

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Ian is actually healthy for us, not enough people who left CAI have taken some time to step back from the "church" and consider the beliefs we had entrenched into our mind/ being and consider any of the correct meaning and context of the scriptures. Sometimes I wish I had a day or two to ask him about a gazillion questions - just on the correct meaning of certain scriptures.

Guns in the hands of men who believe they are above the law- NEVER a good thing.



I also think Ian's input is very good and worthwhile.  However, for all of his talent in disecting scripture, I wonder if he ever reflects on the fact that there may, just may, be a little bit of more skill he could gain in engaging with people as opposed to triggering annoyed reactions from people.  Presumably Ian has devoted years to mastering the scriptures so that he can benefit other people, and so some time dedicated to learning how to win people over more effectively prob wouldn't go amiss. 

I await Ian's response letting us all know that, it's everyone else and not him!

He that winneth souls is wise... He that annoyeth the shit out of so many - not so wise!
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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:24/11/2010 2:09 PM)

"He that winneth souls is wise... He that annoyeth the shit out of so many - not so wise!"

Hey, that's not KJV, is it?
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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:24/11/2010 4:35 PM)

Good morning, Guest.

I also think Ian's input is very good and worthwhile.  However, for all of his talent in disecting scripture, I wonder if he ever reflects on the fact that there may, just may, be a little bit of more skill he could gain in engaging with people as opposed to triggering annoyed reactions from people. And where would the fun be in that?! I'd suggest that if my approach or demeanor so 'triggers annoyed reactions in people', then such people should probably stop and ponder 'why' it is that they're so easily annoyed? Wounded pride, perhaps? Presumably Ian has devoted years to mastering the scriptures so that he can benefit other people, and so some time dedicated to learning how to win people over more effectively prob wouldn't go amiss. I think I 'win people over' effectively enough. That is, if raw numbers are anything to go by!

I await Ian's response letting us all know that, it's everyone else and not him! Hardly. I'm all for personal responsibility. Hence I'm responsible for my actions; however, others are responsible for their re-actions!

Blessings,

Ian

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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:24/11/2010 4:41 PM)

Guest,

"He that winneth souls is wise... He that annoyeth the shit out of so many - not so wise!" Hey, that's not KJV, is it? 'Nope', but the following pithy little sayings are: 'The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall.' (Proverbs 10:8); 'Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge: but a fool layeth open his folly.' (Proverbs 13:16); 'Wisdom is too high for a fool: he openeth not his mouth in the gate.' (Proverbs 24:7); 'A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool’s back,' and 'Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.' (Proverbs 26:3 and 4).

Interesting, eh?

Blessings,

Ian


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Re:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:23/03/2011 3:03 PM)

Aren´t the so called people in CAI wants to scare people with their ugly weapons, like crazy horses? Or, am I wrong in this opinion? What does really Scott Williams want to do? What is his aim? Does he just want to press people with his armed force? Whatfore then? This CAI policy look so unhealthy now, that I don´t really soon know what to do with them. The only way for CAI now, if people doesn´t wake up now, is the road to hell. Whatfore? Is CAI a doomsday group? Or what really want Scott and Michy want to do? Just rob people from their minds and money, and to have power over them. I think Scott and Michy already has gone "over the line". There is no way back for them now. And just therefore they seem right now to be really dangerous. They soon, or already, know they are lost, and then everything really dangerous can happen. Aren´t the people, or some people anyway, in CAI already desperate? Somebody wrote that, anyway. They have gone into a dead-end, and there is soon no way back. I think the leadership in CAI already realize, or soon realize this, and what shall they do then. Just explode!

And that is my fear, for all ot the some still innocent people in CAI, will they go with the leadership in CAI to hell too. To the hell in this world, and just explode themselves? This is a risky moment now, and that person who can, but not help the innocent people in this situation, what will that person say if all this just will collapse. They feel fear maybe, but I also think they wrongly feel no responsibility, or think that someone else has to fix it and order up everything. But that is your responsibility now, and noone else´s! Ok, let them die then, but then their blood will be one your hands also.
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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:24/03/2011 4:17 AM)

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues"  -Relevation 18:4-

Greetings to all brethren, Erwin R.
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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:24/03/2011 10:43 AM)

The blood will be on Scott Williams hands and his fellows comrades.
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RE:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:24/03/2011 1:04 PM)

See you later alligator, good-bye to you all! Hope I not will see you anymore.

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Re:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:24/03/2011 8:51 PM)

I love Australia, and the good people there. But Scott Williams, you have tried to destroy my life by purpose, and you and your henchmen have harassed med for over 17 years now, so now I will follow you, and your henchmen, and destroy your lives, as well. Beware of yourself now, because my anger is now big. If I see you again, and if you, and your henchmen harass me once more, and the people around me, I will just destroy your lives. Think once more, Scott and your henchmen, is it worth it!

And a little warning, I hope you and all who has harassed me will rotten in jail, or hell, for the rest of your lives, you deserve it, and if you Scott Williams not will put everything right again, I will put you so long distance from mankind that you can´t imagine it, and you know this is true. I give you two days to put everything right again, otherwise I will come after you. 

And the worst thing is that you have enjoyed to harass me, but your sh*t-house will not last so long then. 
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Re:Why do they have so much guns in CAI?
(Date Posted:30/03/2011 2:30 PM)

IF YOU ARE STILL IN THE C.A.I  --- there's life outstide the group.

it is possible to re-build a good, productive and fulfilling life.

BE CAREFUL  of end-of-world and doom  teaching and pressures.   
- you can leave  - God won't damm you - Only Scott/Michy and your cell-leader.
- but they aren't important in your life.

Think of leaving ...  GO FOR IT ....  you'll not regret it.
 - even you Andrew,  you can also  rebuild your life and change. 


All the best all

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