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(Date Posted:06/10/2010 6:33 PM)
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I'm doing some research for a friend. Any information about leaders in the RCI who have operated in Scotland will be very welcome.
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RE:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:06/10/2010 6:40 PM)

Re to my own message as I don't know how to edit:
I'm particularly interested in somebody whose name begins with the letter 'A'. I know this is cryptic, but I have my reasons.
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From: Australia
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RE:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:06/10/2010 10:09 PM)

Andrew?o.O Scottish guy with red hair- married to Sandra and used to live in the EHQ, moved to Pitversie then had to move out in disgrace because his wife couldnt cope- God Bless her, we all know its not easy.


Thats the one? Owns a part share in Douglas House- lives there now I think.




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Re:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:07/10/2010 4:12 AM)

Thank you Saiyth. This is useful. If you find out anything else please let me know. Some men in the Scottish RCI groups have committed some unspeakable acts against children and some women. It's only a matter of time before they are exposed, God willing.
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Re:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:07/10/2010 2:42 PM)

Andrew Vidler: http://www.manwithavan.es/ now in Spain.

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Re:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:07/10/2010 3:09 PM)

Thank you Guest. Is AV still linked to the 'church'? Or is he trying to start a new life? What exactly was his role in the Scottish groups?
If anybody can give me any positive information about who operated in the Scottish groups during the 1990s it will be much appreciated.
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From: Australia
Registered:05/06/2009

RE:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:08/10/2010 9:26 AM)

This is him- and how typical. They make him work for years in the EHQ then boot him out with his family. They make him buy a house in Abernethy and then tell him to move to Spain. or is he still renting it out with no heating to unsuspecting victims?


He has a trade which he worked in as a proffessional but now he drives a van for a living to work for the "Lord", for 12 bucks an hour recruiting cannon fodder for the cult.

Shame on you people. Shame on you.


But yeah- this was the guy fronting up the European work through the 90's I believe- Larsy and John only came along later.
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Registered:05/06/2009

RE:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:08/10/2010 9:28 AM)

Of course ASW was there at the start of the 90's- one Anthony Scott Williams. IF that is the guy you are looking for then he's currently living in Australia and is in quite a deal of trouble with the Authorities for crimes of a sexual nature.

Come to think of it this could be the person you are looking for. If so- give the Coffs harbour police a ring- they might be interested if you have been involved with this man.
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RE:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:12/10/2010 12:42 AM)

Thank you again.  I also found out that he's working in Spain not only 'driving' his white van but is a distributor for No Greater Joy ministries which is the corruption of the Lord's Word that Michael Pearl and his wife are involved in. So, under an 'innocent' and secular occupation he's quietly working away to destroy the Lord's truth even further. And in another country. Amazing how these people move about, taking their wicked ways with them and destroying more lives. Insiduous people.
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RE:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:12/10/2010 1:00 AM)

And on the subject of ASW, let's just say I now know that his influence was at work in the Scottish groups in the 1990s. At the moment, it's good enough for me to know that he's finally been arrested for his sexual depravity. It's been a long time coming. As far as my friend's situation is concerned - it's very complicated. She wasn't directly involved in the cult, but became a victim of terrible sexual abuse through a family member who was involved and who allowed their influence into her life. I hope that one day she will be able to do something directly to help convict more of these scumbags, but for a long time she's been working very hard to make something of her life, and has done a brilliant job. She's a highly qualified, professional person now (unlike most of them, I'm assuming, or does driving a white van count?)  One day she will speak and people will listen to her, but when she was abused by the men in the group, she was a very confused and vulnerable young woman and they knew that, which was why she made an easy target. But not now and not in the future. 

Believe me, if she was in the position to speak to the police about ASW or anybody else, she would. But the nature of the abuse was so destructive and sustained over a long period she suffered terribly and her life collapsed. She had to piece it back together again and has been extremely successful in this. My encouragement goes out to anybody else who has been affected in ways like this by these evil men. You can recover! You can get well again! You can find justice!

P.S No offence to any good white van drivers out there intended.
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Re:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:17/05/2011 5:19 AM)

Interesting allegation and quite a strong one. Even a non-christian stance on making such allegations publicly would require some form of detail or proof. If one is not willing to follow through properly than I would simply have to either call this tale-bearing, anonymous slander or an inability of holding the tongue whern required.

I was one of the three responsible for Scotland/Europe together with Pastor (overseer?) Fraser and Pastor Sam... and also with the other EU Secretaries. I arrived in Scotland 2003. You are probably talking about an incident before this time... as I would be extreemly surprised if either Lars, Fraser, Sam would have anything to do with such matters - I would simply rule it out... unless you are able to give names and proof. If not - I would recommend to remain silent.

Greetings, Torben
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Registered:07/05/2011

Re:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:17/05/2011 5:39 AM)

@Saiyth, so true,

I pity Andrew and Sandra. In this case it would be no exaggeration to say that Andrew was literally 'broken' in a negative sense.
I was even involved as a cocky know-nothing, catapulted into a senior office, blindly executing the orders from Australia. We tortured this man psychologically until he broke after a few months and accepted the overseers unjust opinion blindly... and abandoned once more his own reason. I apologiesed to him during the Aussie AGM in Coffs Harbour a couple of years ago.

This extreem type of breaking is not happening anymore (but on a more subtle mild level) - thanks to the people who mand a stand since 2006 and since. The last people I know personally for a certainty were Michy, Drew, Lars, John and Andrew. Lars was promoted to Pastor within one or two years (?) of joining CAI and then sent to live with Michy in Paris. Breaking methods used were things like having Lars lead a group of people through Paris and when he leads left - he would be publicly ridiculed for that stupid decision and everybody would go right... if he said right.. he would be humiliated publicly and everybody would go left. Eventualy one would only seek to please the commander without any intelligence on your own part. Additionally he was told that he was so proud - he would be sent back to Germany and sacked if he didn't break in 24h or so.

I know all this from Lars and Michy first hand and was instructed to train according to similar patterns. I am sincerely sorry for anyone who suffered from my un-christian behaviour in the time of the DH renovation time till 2009, when I started to change and woke up gradually.

Maybe this helps some people not to focus their anger on the 'broken' officers, as they were young and vulnerable when they got sucked in... they are more victims than we are and in a more secure prison.

Greetings Torben
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Re:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:17/05/2011 9:48 PM)

CAI will go to hell, anyway, and I think it´s only good. Who will miss them, nobody. So everyone can go on with his/her "new" life, and put everything with CAI behind. What a blessing, if CAI just stopped existing. You could then breathe normally again after have hold your breathe for several years now. It´s torture, from ASW´s side.
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RE:Who are the leaders that have operated in Scotland?
(Date Posted:18/05/2011 6:30 AM)

Pity Andrew & Sandra? You must be bloody joking.

Sandra never did anything bad to me, but Andrew is a completely different story. He did plenty. I managed to contact him after I had long left CAI and I asked him for an explanation of a particularly vicious attack on me (not a physical attack, an attack against my reputation and employment) undertaken by him. He said he couldn't remember it. As we sometimes say in Scotland, can't remember, AYE RIGHT!

I know we should try to forgive, but until this bastard apologises to me, there will be no "pity" from me.

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