---

Biggs got a new c6 mod done at TNT. Motor looks good we watch him do the mod. pretty neet ...I,m ready to see how this effects biggs driving could be good could be fatal..........................................................................lol

---

---

Reply to : majic mike 73Biggs got a new c6 mod done at TNT. Motor looks good we watch him do the mod. pretty neet ...I,m ready to see how this effects biggs driving could be good could be fatal..........................................................................lolthats pretty cool that u were able to watch. did he get it broke in yet?

---

---

listen to u.... u gonna stay loyal?

---

I havent changed motors......yet!

---

Reply to : RyanRodfl6363lulisten to u.... u gonna stay loyal?I havent changed motors......yet!

---

---

Reply to : matt713Reply to : RyanRodfl6363lulisten to u.... u gonna stay loyal?I havent changed motors......yet!i was reading, i think on neobuggy that one of the pro drivers was sayin how that new vspec is faster then anything he had ever driven1 u waitin on it?

---

Yeah, I would hope so... it's $500 bucks! That sucker better fly, literally!

---

Reply to : RyanRodfl6363luReply to : matt713Reply to : RyanRodfl6363lulisten to u.... u gonna stay loyal?I havent changed motors......yet!i was reading, i think on neobuggy that one of the pro drivers was sayin how that new vspec is faster then anything he had ever driven1 u waitin on it?Yeah, I would hope so... it's $500 bucks! That sucker better fly, literally!

---

said it before and Ill say it again......I really want a V-spec. but I dont want the price tag or the replacement costs, over and over.

Yeah, I think they are testing the waters with that price. Once they see very few people will put that kind of money out for something with little or no garrantee then they will drop the price. But then again if they start selling  alot of them at that price then you will see alot of other engines go up in price as well.

I'm not sure what is so spectacular about it? The tungsten inserts and stuff is also being done by the newer Axe Rossi motors and they are alot cheaper. $300 range. You may not hear any U.S based pros saying the Axe Rossi Cobra "is the fastest motor they have ever ran" probably because there are no pros sponsored by Axe Rossi in the U.S running that motor. I bet the Axe Rossi Cobra would hold up to the new V-Spec.

vspecs have always looked good in my opinion.  they always seem to run riducously fast with a great combination of topend and awesome bottom.  when is the last time u have ssen one flame out, or have trouble starting?  they dont.  however the thought of throwing 300+ for something that  WAS known for bad bearings, and called "the one race engine" at one time scares me!  i think that one day i will try a stock one when i know that OS has corrected their flaws.

---

vspecs have always looked good in my opinion. they always seem to run riducously fast with a great combination of topend and awesome bottom. when is the last time u have ssen one flame out, or have trouble starting? they dont. however the thought of throwing 300+ for something that WAS known for bad bearings, and called "the one race engine"at one time scares me! i think that one day i will try a stock one when i know that OS has corrected their flaws.

---

It makes no sense to me why they can not make an engine that lasts, when they do so well with the smaller engines.

I am considering the Mega engines for my next purchase.

---

mega is what the machine runs isnt it? his cars haul a$$!

---

I did read that.

It will be hard to go away from the ninja though. 

---

aren't the Mega engines made by Novarossi? I just read that the .12 mega was

---

The .21 are picco based, with the novarossi based ones coming.

Those Italians can make some motors.

There has got to be only so much that can be done to a nitro engine. There are so many brands out there and a good bunch of them are designed by a rossi. This leads me to believe that there can't really be much of a performance difference between a $200 motor and a $300 motor.

I'm leaning towards getting a $180 motor and invest another $50 to $100 for some good mod work. I bet that combo would stil rock and roll just like the $300+ motors.

i guess it just depends on what u are looking for.  i truly beleive that there is not a HUGE difference in these high dollar mills.  instead i am concerend with longevity.  my first ws7 was a great engine, only gave me a headache once, and i still dont know what was wrong with it, but anyways it started gallon 10 in ocala, and was screaming!  just got my second one, and almost have break in complete.  so for $300 bucks, and 10+ gallons, i cant complain!  its a good back up, and if i when it finally dies, i wont even bother rebuildin, i got my money worth out of it!

back to the mod...  i think that the modded mills look great, but to spend less $ on a stock mill and then get it modded.....  y not just spend the money on a great stock motor rather then mod a cheaper one?  just my opinion though, i know that modification on boats, jetskis, cars, bikes, etc make them more unreliable dont know if it is the same with nitro engines, i like all my engines as reliable as possible.  thats my .02

---

i guess it just depends on what u are looking for. i truly beleive that there is not a HUGE difference in these high dollar mills. instead i am concerend with longevity. my first ws7 was a great engine, only gave me a headache once, and i still dont know what was wrong with it, but anyways it started gallon 10 in ocala, and was screaming! just got my second one, and almost have break in complete. so for $300 bucks, and 10+ gallons, i cant complain! its a good back up, and if i when it finally dies, i wont even bother rebuildin, i got my money worth out of it!back to the mod... i think that the modded mills look great, but to spend less $ on a stock mill and then get it modded..... y not just spend the money on a great stock motor rather then mod a cheaper one? just my opinion though, i know th

---

also. it depeds on who is doing the modding.

Modding an engine is ok, but it is NOT going to get lap times down on its own. You could actually buy a "cheap" engine, and do fine with it stock at most tracks in Fla.

I think when you are driving your best, and you feel that is all you can do. After putting on new tires, the engine mod may help, but to be honest, noone in 1/8 scale complains about straight away speed. If its bottom you desire, buy a smaller clutch bell.

I have never came off the stand and said "if my engine was modded I would have beat _____. It is usually "if I had not crashed.... or if I had mounted the right tires...... OR had a new painted body for my GT2   you get the point.

All things considered, if they were the same price, I would buy the mod, but until the engine stays running at a reasonable temp. I would stick to the stocker.

Think I have 8 gallons on my NInja. it is still "kicking".

---

i guess it just depends on what u are looking for. i truly beleive that there is not a HUGE difference in these high dollar mills. instead i am concerend with longevity. my first ws7 was a great engine, only gave me a headache once, and i still dont know what was wrong with it, but anyways it started gallon 10 in ocala, and was screaming! just got my second one, and almost have break in complete. so for $300 bucks, and 10+ gallons, i cant complain! its a good back up, and if i when it finally dies, i wont even bother rebuildin, i got my money worth out of it!back to the mod... i think that the modded mills look great, but to spend less $ on a stock mill and then get it modded..... y not just spend the money on a great stock motor rather then mod a cheaper one? just my opinion though, i know th

---

AGREED!     when you port,  polish, cut , shave, bore, you are most likely to loose dependability. (not that someone hasnt done mods to thier engine and it hasn't  been successful) but I would rather an engine run consisrtant rather than be a fireball and unreliable. 

Aaron made an excellent point in stating that a faster motor will most likely not put down faster lap times. I have a .21 sportworks in my Mayhem Pro and it has more than enough power for any application.    

Well it really boils down to whos modding it. If you have someone like Jim Hottinger doing the work then chances are good it will be right. As far as performance consistancy that is one of the bigger reasons people choose a mod. From what I have read from nearly all the major modders is that a mod will help create a smoother more consistant power band.

Also consider the benefits of a balanced crank, if done correctly this should help prevent premature bearing failure and wear in certain areas that would cause the motor to perform badly or fail all together.

I don't think it's fair to assume a stock motor will last longer or be more dependable or consistant than a mod motor.

like i said before, i dont know about nitro mills, but anything else that u mod will be more unreliable and higher maintenance.  so ask yourself is the trade off worth it?  to me it isnt...  however i am not in the A main consistently, or running with the pros!  if i was then i would want every advantage possible!  so for me, a mod isnt what i need.  in other words, a modded engine will not put me in the amain more!  drivin and learning setup/tires is where i need to concentrate.  also, if it flames out, the race is over!!!  however i do like a smooth engine and one that dont flame out. 

EXACTLY!  thats what i am trying to learn.  i like a engine that is smooth, reliable, and most of all easy to tune, the less time i have to spent on the bump box, and tunning the more time i get to have on the track, and messing arround with different things on the car.  however i was thinking about mods after posting last night, and duanes mod never misses a beat.  i have never seen it flame out, or give him any trouble at all, so after thinkin about it a little more, some mods are great, he can get almost 11 mins to a tank with that thing!!!

Yup, there are different ways to mod a motor. Increasing power is not always the objective. CEO power mods actually has 2 or 3 different types of mods you can buy from them. One being just getting a smoother power band and better run times which is just a mild mod then they have a wilder mod that will give you more power but runtime my suffer.

I think TNT Mods did Duanes motor, I hear good things about thier work.

duanes is a JP Modded Vspec.  i think that OS and JB actaully work together...  this to me is worth it.  if a engine company has faith to send their engines from the factory to be modded, then that tells you something.  (larger price tag though!)

Hey Jesse, Duane here my motor is a jp mod vspec.