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stxangler
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(Date Posted:09/23/2012 08:18)
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Hello everyone I want to ask for your support on this but will understand if you do not feel the same way but would like your feed back positive or negative. Ok here is the deal I have bought memberships to almost every site there is some good some bad we all have or own preference . I have been a on and off member of CLASSIC CAR  LADIES for years and also when TESSA PEDALS  was around that was one of my favorite sites . About 2 months ago I wanted to purchase a membership to CLASSIC CAR LADIES because Tessa was there and he had new models but there were no models smoking so I emailed the webmaster and asked him if he would have some of them smoke and crank I new Tessa smoked and I am most sure he has other models that smoke as well . Well he never responded so I sent another email asking him why he would not at least respond . You know were I am from it is comman curtisy to at least respond to a customers request weather you can fullfill that request or not you know all I ask for is a yes or no . I did find out through other people in the PP community that he does not smoking well that is fine but at least let the customer know . Well I never heard a peep from him then I thought well I will buy a months membership anyway I do like the models . I fill out the info to purchase a membership and it says CREDIT CARD DENIED  well I new this was wrong so I tried another card and the same thing happened . I then contacted BHE-BILL about the problem well no response from them so I thought maybe It is a technical problem with there billing so I waited and tried again a week or so later still nothing . This went on up till yesterday when I emailed the website support they emailed me back and said the WEBMASTER HAS BLOCKED ME FROM THERE SITE . What a JA#% AS# he does not even have the Ba??s to answer requests and this is how he handles things . I WOULD GREATLY APPRICIATE ANY HELP IN BLOCKING HIM OUT OF THE PEDAL PUMPING COMMUNITY WE DO NOT NEED PEOPLE LIKE THAT IT IS OBVIOUS HE HAS NO RESPECT FOR CUSTOMERS SO WHY PAY HIM . IF YOU ARE A MEMBER IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRICIATED IF YOU CANCEL YOUR MEMBERSHIP SEND HIM A MESSAGE WE DO NOT NEED PEOPLE THAT DO BUISNESS THIS WAY IN THE PEDAL PUMPING COMMUNITY. THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS .  
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Jackson61
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:09/23/2012 11:20)

stxangler,

I was formerly a member of CCL about 4 years ago.  Upon joining the site I too ended up quitting after a run in with the site's owner.  It had nothing to do with any of the models' smoking.  Personally I detest that disgusting habit, but that's my own beliefs having extended relatives on both sides of my family who died prematurely from smoking related illnesses the last 25 or so years.   Living in a democratic society we all have a right to do whatever we want with our bodies.  If people want to smoke, despite all of the warnings from the American Medical Association which positively have stated for the last 45 years that smoking is directly related to various forms of cancer, emphaszema, heart conditions, strokes and etc., then that's their business.  But I just did not want to dwell on that as I respond to your post.

I agree 100% with you concerning the issue of the site owner and his seeming rudeness towards you with regards to a question that you state you posed to him personally.  I quit the site because the owner was particularly rude to me, a paying customer in response to a simple question that I asked him concerning one of his models.  I was in no way offensive, derogatory or disrespectful to this model, either. 

 Based on reading your thread it is quite clear to me that this owner still doesn't understand the notion that it is imperative on his part that he provide positive customer service to you.  That includes responding to any questions that you ask of him as a part of two-way dialogue;  providing of course that you, were first respectful of him.

 The owner of this site is in the business of trying to attract people to his product - in this case female pedal pumping/cranking.   In that type of business, each owner HAS TO treat his customers with complete RESPECT; that is if he, (or she) wants to survive in the industry.   If the business owner instead wants to act like a complete a- - hole and demonstrate utter disrespect to his customers, then IMO that person would not receive one blessed penny out of me.  That exactly was my thinking when this particular individual and owner of the site in question showed his contempt and vulgarity, making it even more personal through his response to the point where I felt compelled to immediately pull the plug on my membership.  Why should I support a business owner who couldn't understand the word R-E-S-P-E-C-T if I pointed it out to him while placing a dictionary right in his face?

On a personal level, stxangler may I suggest that you simply forget about him.  Instead focus in on the fact that you're saving $$ on your next credit card statement because he irrationally denied your membership.  It's less $$ that he is making in his business.   There are other sites out there, my man!  The two that I personally am a member of, (MsVeryShy and Pedal Pumping Aspen) both have gone out of their way to treat me like a valued customer.
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:09/23/2012 11:41)

I really appriciate the positive words you have given I to do not smoke and will not ever it is a wierd turn on for me though and if a model smokes then she is awhere of the consequences . You hit the nail on the head in everything you said and you are very correct on saving my money and joining a site that appriciates my buisness it is clear he does not . Hopefully this will send him a message if we all stick together . To take in consideration he is selling a product and we are the customer . Though I really do not think he is smart enough to do that type of logical thinking . 
AS RON WHITE SAYS ( YOU CAN NOT FIX STUPID ) 
Thanks Buddy  

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badmike
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Re:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:09/23/2012 18:44)

Neither of you are new around here, right? Why so surprised? Do either of you know any webmasters that do requests or post material based on their customers preference? I'll LOVE to hear about them.

None of the webmasters do requests. None of them. Some of them solicit requests, none of them actually do requests.

I had to laugh when I saw on Tessa's Youtube site, "Hope to hear from you all very soon regarding your preference in footwear, clothing, etc." No matter what our preferences, CCL is 90% high heels, 3% "keds", 2% everything else.

Just remember the PP webmaster motto: "Don't like it? Don't sign up!"
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Jackson61
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:09/24/2012 08:26)

Hey Mike,

The issue of requests has nothing to do with what I was in dialogue with stxangler.    My discussion with him had to do with the fact that a website owner still has to exhibit a bit of professionalism and courtesy towards his/her members.  A webmaster, dealing with requests from members does not have to reply back in a vulgar, nasty tone showing complete disrespect towards his/her paying subscribers.   Remember it is the paying members/subscribers that make or break a site.  No owner of a female pedal pumping/cranking is going to survive and thrive if his/her actual total number of members can be counted on the fingers of one hand. 

That's all I was talking about with stxangler.  He has the right to issue a request to a website owner.   Whether or not the website owner follows through on this request is up to him or her.  But if the website owner chooses to reply back to the individual who issued the request, there is no need for him/her to do so in a derogatory tone.  Anyone who is in the business of trying to advertise or sell a product in a business would tell you this.  It doesn't take a PHD from Harvard Business School to understand that philosophy.
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Re:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:09/24/2012 17:39)

I agree with you Jackson. That's an element of my point as well. Webmasters not only don't do requests, but some are even hostile toward requests. I too have contacted the aforementioned site owner with a very simple, polite request and was ignored. He doesn't care what I want to see.

Unfortunately for all of us, conventional business sense does not apply here. Webmasters know that regardless of what they post, enough people will sign up to keep the party going.

Webmasters act out their fantasies, YOU pay the bill. And at 30-40 dollars per month for these sites, you're paying two-three times what a typical porn consumer pays.
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crissycrankscars
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Re:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:09/29/2012 08:30)

 Some of the web sites do requests-I can specifically name them if I need to, but look around for examples-many sites have a clip or two of a woman in bedroom slippers, many sites have shots of the exhaust-all specifically done for requests, I have taken and filled specific requests for many sites.
Not every request is possible-we wanted to film a bunch of stuck footage last winter but we got no snow.
Smoking is different-people are quitting the habit and it is getting more difficult to find models who are willing to smoke, but I have filmed models smoking on many different occasions-as have other sites as well. Even if we do find a model who smokes, it probably won't be enough to fulfill your specific fetish, although we would have fulfilled your requests.
Take a look at Aspen's site-check the updates page, it specifically states when a request has been fulfilled. Same thing with Pump That Pedal and Nichole-just to name a few. They all post when they take requests.
So you can't say that none of the sites take requests-I am just giving some examples, there are other sites that take requests as well.
Some sites film far in advance and make requests nearly impossible, but they have so much footage they have updates planned through 2013, so they focus on providing content to the masses-providing consistent updates with new models-everyone wants that and they fulfill that need.
Some sites are on auto pilot and make even responding to emails difficult-they might be run by part-timers who hold down other jobs. But they focus on content for the masses, and providing a fair deal for whomever joins.
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:12/19/2012 18:12)

Ok everyone I must have missed this somehow Charlie and I are chatting and have been for a good while now I bashed him here and should not have I apologize to him and to all that read what I said about him He is a good man and an asset to this fetish . He does listen to requests as I have asked him to see a couple things and he is glad to help Tessa and Charlie are great and and its an honor to be able to chat with him.
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:12/22/2012 08:00)

Personally, I can do without the models smoking; only 'smoking' I want to see is the kind coming out the exhaust pipes of their cars 
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stxangler
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:12/23/2012 16:19)

You have your prefernce and I have mine The key is meeting everyones prefernce if you are selling somthing not just what you or I want..
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:12/25/2012 18:02)

How stupid.  The key is not meeting everyone's preference.  The key is offering a product that folks can buy if they like it and shop elsewhere if they don't.  If you don't like a Ford, don't criticize the dealer for selling them.  Just walk across the street to a competitor.

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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:12/26/2012 16:15)

xxcrankerxx are you really this stupid or is this just an act That Is What I Said you need to think if you are able to before posting Dum A**
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:12/26/2012 18:36)

Open mouth, insert foot.  That is not what you said but apparently you hear only what you want to hear.  Tough to argue with folks with a closed mind and the intelligence of a second grader.
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:12/26/2012 19:25)

You must be stupid did you not read the post I just put up a couple days ago you are as stupid as they come .
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RE:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:12/30/2012 16:15)

You said - The key is meeting everyones prefernce if you are selling somthing not just what you or I want. - You obviously flunked spelling.

I said - The key is not meeting everyone's preference. The key is offering a product that folks can buy if they like it and shop elsewhere if they don't. If you don't like a Ford, don't criticize the dealer for selling them. Just walk across the street to a competitor. - I don't like McDonalds but they seem to do quite well in spite of me.

Happy New Year to one and all, including the mental midgets of this world.  There is a lot of resources to choose from, web sites, clip stores, YouTube and I am sure there are others. 

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Re:CLASSIC CAR LADIES
(Date Posted:01/01/2013 16:27)

That is cute xxcrankerxx an english major Bet your Mom is proud . Enough of that BS look you brain dead moron if you can not understand what I ment you need to move on . I do not have time to play with you anymore nor do I have the patients So FU** Off. Find another board to be a spelling wiz on . It is obviouse you are not very welcomed here you have nothing but BS to say with no meaning and most of us no its you BILL ..
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