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Title: Contender Type I and Type II
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(Date Posted:04/07/2004 6:46 PM)
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OK, what the heck is the difference between a TC Contender Type I and Type II? I have seen it for years but never really knew the difference. And I am not sure which one I have. Thanks all!
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(Date Posted:04/08/2004 1:43 AM)

I think you are referring to a G2 contender. The G2 is the replacement for the original contender and looks like a scaled down Encore frame. The original contender has a panther on both sides of the frame. The G2 didn't hit production until the summer of 2003. If your frame is older than that, you probably have the original frame. BTW the G2 does not require the barrel to be opened up each time you want to cock the hammer.

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(Date Posted:04/08/2004 1:50 AM)

Thanks Paul but that is not correct. I am referring to the older style Contenders.

Anyone else???
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(Date Posted:04/08/2004 3:14 AM)

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Thanks Paul but that is not correct. I am referring to the older style Contenders.Anyone else???





OK, I'm going on memory here and since I truly and deeply hate Contenders, that memory may well be faulty. But here goes - I'm sure someone will point out if I'm wrong.

As best I can recall, the earliest Contenders (Type I) were somewhat difficult to break open. Some of the lockwork geometry was slightly changed to make them open easier and these newer guns are referred to as Type II. I have no idea when the transition occurred.

Does that sound right? Anybody?
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(Date Posted:04/08/2004 3:25 AM)

The original contender frame had a harder to open frame and the rimfire / center fire selector was done with a screwdriver. Thompson then made an improvement on the original frame by changing the pivot point for the trigger guard to make it an easy open frame and changed the hammer with a rimfire / centerfire selector that you can twist with your fingers. Thompson then came out with an Armour Alloy II frame. It looks like stainless steel but is not. The serial#'s on Armour Alloy frames begin with an "A". The Armour Alloy was dropped and replaced with a real Stainless Steel frame. The serial# of blued frames are all numbers and a stainless steel frame begins with a "S". These are all the variances that I know of. Anyone else???

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(Date Posted:04/08/2004 11:19 AM)

All very good guesses but no cigars. The monikers Type I, II, III Etc. refers to, not the frame, but the barrels.

Thompson Center has been making the Contender for around 40 years now, I think. The number of calibers/variations offered over the years is staggering. A group of collector/enthusiasts got together several years ago and founded the Thompson Contender Organization with their quarterly publication, "One Good Shot", dedicated to buying, selling, collecting and shooting Contenders. They even offered factory, special run barrels in contours, lengths and chamberings exclusive to members.

Collecting and cataloging the different iterations of barrels offered over the years have necessitated the labels "Type I", "Type II", etc. Some of the variations, and combination of variations include; contour, length, rear sight length, chambering and even goes into the lettering on the barrel. One line, two line, N.H. or N H, and so on.

I'm not sure because I haven't been a member for several years but I believe a Type I barrel is an octagon, one line, short sight barrel and the Type II is octagon, two line, long sight. Even if I'm completely wrong on the features, you get the idea.

So, thanks to all the contestants. We have some lovely parting gifts, including a copy of our home game.
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(Date Posted:04/08/2004 11:29 AM)

Oh, and as to the frame differences. The early frames, besides the old style trigger and hammer, had the pivot pin to break open the action at the front of the trigger housing. Later models had the pivot pin moved to the center increasing leverage and making it easier to open. Hence the name of the new frame design, "Easy Open".

If anyone has an old style frame with the front mounted pivot pin, T/C will convert it to easy open for you, along with upgrading the hammer and trigger for a reasonable fee. I did this to my frame and highly recommend it.
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(Date Posted:04/08/2004 4:19 PM)

Ok, I will throw my 2 cents worth in.  To the best of my memory the Type I frame was where the pivot was in front of the trigger guard and was hard to open.  The Type II (easy open) move the pivot back.  As far as the rimfire/centerfire selector I don't believe this had anything to do with the Frame type other than on Type I frames it was changed with a screwdrive on the front face of the hammer.  The change to the selectable lever came after the Type II frame was released, I know as I had a Type II frame that had the selector on the front of the hammer and was changed with a screwdriver.  This was retrofitted by TC at no charge to the new lever system.  I believe this retrofit was offered because this selector has a middle position which also acts as a safety.  In any event it was basicly a hammer swap.

Bret

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(Date Posted:04/08/2004 10:56 PM)

If you want to find out more about the different barrel types, check out this web site.
http://members.aol.com/ronstcs/
This is for RJ's guns and he has a lot of contender stuff including barrels from type 1 to type 9 with an explanation as to what is the difference.

Paul
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