http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudorsAimoo CityAimooen-USAimoo http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Henry-VI-Crazy-or-Just-Sick-1-2027407.html scarlet_11dy6 2011-06-30 15:36:23.227 The Plantagenets A catatonic state can be caused by schizophrenia (which is what I always pegged Henry as as soon as I found this stuff out b/c that's what they think Grandpa had & that can be genetic), or even severe bipolar syndrome, autism, or PTSD (maybe Jack Cade really scared him :-O).But it can also be ca http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Plantagenet-Jesters-1-1841803.html Criccieth 2010-06-14 07:39:45.907 The Plantagenets The existence of jesters (or Fools, probably natural fools) at the court of Edward II is fairly well established - guy liked to laugh! But there seems to be relatively little known about Edward IV. There are some references to John Scogin (various spellings) but I can't find any proof that he actual http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/A-Plantagenety-January-1-1708801.html Forever_Amber 2010-01-13 03:03:10.903 The Plantagenets 3 - 1437 - death of Catherine of Valois at Bermondsey Abbey5 - 1209 - birth of Richard, Earl of Cornwall, son of John & Isabella d'Angouleme; also Holy Roman Emperor-elect6 - 1367 - birth of Richard II, King of England7 - 1355 - birth of Thomas of Woodstock9 - 1431 - trial of Joan of Arc begins http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/A-Plantagenety-December-1-1690128.html Forever_Amber 2009-12-22 20:00:29.25 The Plantagenets 1 - 1170 - Thomas a Becket reconciles with Henry II & returns to Canterbury after a 6-year exile6 - 1421 - birth of Henry VI, King of England13 - 1470 - marriage of Edward, Prince of Wales & Anne Neville, at Amboise16 - 1431 - Henry VI crowned King of France at Notre Dame, Paris19 - 1154 - c http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/A-Plantagenety-November-1-1654611.html Forever_Amber 2009-11-21 03:53:37.91 The Plantagenets Let's play with them, too:2 - 1164 - Becket flees England3 - 1456 - death of Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond4 - 1470 - birth of Edward V, King of England, the elder of the Princes in the Tower6 - 1282 - Battle of Menai Strait; Welsh trounce English1429 - coronation of Henry VI, King of England, at We http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/These-Wounds-I-Had-on-Crispin-s-Day-1-1647444.html Greensleeves 2009-10-25 11:36:29.577 The Plantagenets Tis the 594th anniversary of Henry Vs "band of brothers" & their stunning victory over the French at Agincourt.  Superior English archers with longbows, not crossbows; French knights in heavy armor drowning in the mud; valiantly determined Henry outnumbered 11dy6 to 1....we've all heard the http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Dickon-We-Hardly-Knew-Ye-1-1592573.html Greensleeves 2009-09-18 02:41:48.903 The Plantagenets http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Knight-Effigies-Timeline-Nice-Links-1-1491307.html Greensleeves 2009-05-19 01:10:42.373 The Plantagenets I just thought THIS was kinda of cool to scroll down & see how tomb effigies evolved, starting round 1200 thru about 1400, so roughly from John thru Richard II timeline.  Haven't got a clue as to who 90% of these guys are tho.  Liking the mid 14th-century brass ones & yknow, I wann http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Pontefract-Bloody-Pontefract-1-1462450.html Greensleeves 2009-04-22 19:19:27.433 The Plantagenets I'm struck by how much blood was spilled at Pontefract.  Twas the seat of Lancastrian power in John of Gaunt's day & the site of the execution of Edward IIs half-brother, Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, who opposed Richard II over Gaveston & whom Richard held responsible for Gaveston's execu http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/John-of-Gaunt-The-Father-of-Many-Countries-1-1440530.html Forever_Amber 2009-09-07 05:45:57.39 The Plantagenets I recall Mark posted about some German guy who can be traced back as a common ancestor of all extant royal houses.  But John of Gaunt was no slouch in disseminating his seed far & wide, either.His eldest daughter by Blanche of Lancaster, Philippa, was married at age 18 to John I of Portugal http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/6-Degrees-of-William-Marshal-1-1392341.html Forever_Amber 2009-03-05 05:25:57.08 The Plantagenets You know FA cannot stay away from those begats LOL & William Marshal's are especially interesting.He married at age 43 to 17-year-old Isabel de Clare, heiress of the famed Richard "Strongbow" de Clare who was the main thrust of Henry IIs invasion of Ireland.  By marrying Isabel, Marshal ass http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Plantagenet-Coincedences-1-1392200.html Forever_Amber 2009-03-08 01:47:46.98 The Plantagenets Henry the young king & Geoffrey both died aged 28. Henry, Geoffrey, & Richard all died in France; Henry & Richard both died in the Limousin whilst beseiging things.  Tho Henry alas not so gloriously with the dysentery. Henry was married to Louis's daughter Marguerite 23 yr http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Chaucer-the-Gaunt-Connection-1-1376718.html Forever_Amber 2009-04-04 21:19:12.123 The Plantagenets From: Greensleeves  (Original Message)Sent: 10/13/2003 1:20 AMFor some reason there seems to be a lot of documentation of all the many offices, purses, & pensions which Geoffrey Chaucer was awarded during his tenure as Edward III's unofficial poet laureate.  Now granted some peopl http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Edward-IV-Illegitimate-1-1376684.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-21 02:22:31.717 The Plantagenets From: romeomikegolf  (Original Message)Sent: 1/4/2004 12:44 AMLast night (Saturday 03/01) Channel 4 in the UK screened a programme about Richard III, whilst nothing new about Richard himself was thrown up, it did air some very interesting new information concerning his brother Edward.Edwar http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/The-Beaufort-Children-1-1376618.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-21 01:47:10.84 The Plantagenets From: Lady Helen  (Original Message)Sent: 6/12/2005 6:58 PMHi, I'm new to the group but really love English history. There is a lot I don't know so I hope people don't mind my ignorance or if I ask too many questions. Like - why did the children John of Gaunt had with Catherine Swynford no http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Edmund-Earl-of-Lancaster-1-1376611.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-21 01:43:28.247 The Plantagenets From: Lady Helen  (Original Message)Sent: 6/23/2005 12:00 PMI read somewhere that when Henry IV usurped the throne from Richard II one of the reasons used was that Henry was more entitled to the throne becuase his great great gandfather on hso mothers side - Edmund { son of Henry III }was http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Richard-II-1-1376592.html Forever_Amber 2009-04-05 16:37:43.577 The Plantagenets From: Lady Helen  (Original Message)Sent: 7/25/2005 1:21 PMIf Richard II's crown had not been usurped by his cousin Henry IV who would have succeeded him following his death had he died childless?At one time Roger Mortimer was named heir but I wondered as his claim came through his mother http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Battle-of-Northampton-1-1376583.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-21 01:23:45.42 The Plantagenets From: Lady Helen  (Original Message)Sent: 8/3/2005 7:57 PMWhy didn't Richard - Duke of York - seize the crown for himself when he captured Henry VI after the Battle of Northampton in 1460? Why did he settle for the Act of Accord which named him  Henry's heir over Henry's son Edward ?F http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Richard-Couer-de-Lion-1-1376534.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-21 01:03:04.34 The Plantagenets From: LadyoftheGlade1  (Original Message)Sent: 10/12/2005 1:29 PMEvery school child knows the famous King Richard the lion-hearted.  Hero of the crusades, beloved King of England....wait a minute! Richard I was one of the WORST Kings England ever had!  Let's take a look at s http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/The-Clarence-Follies-1-1374452.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:55:23.047 The Plantagenets From: Greensleeves  (Original Message)Sent: 10/8/2006 6:40 PMGeorge, Duke of Clarence was in conflict with his siblings Edward & Richard since he was old enough to scheme straight. He married Isabel of Warwick against Edward's express wishes.  He joined Warwick in his rebelli http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/York-Taking-the-Throne-1-1374450.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:53:25.577 The Plantagenets From: Greensleeves  (Original Message)Sent: 4/10/2008 7:08 PMHaving just immersed myself in a War of the Roses novel, thoughts sprung to mind about the entire reason for the wars & the men involved.  Henry VI was basically an idiot ruled by his strong-willed wife, Margaret of Anjo http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Yet-Another-Princes-in-the-Tower-Theory-1-1374445.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:51:25.233 The Plantagenets From: MarkGB5  (Original Message)Sent: 5/25/2007 2:03 PMThere's a new book out which puts forward the theory that the two Princes were not murdered at all; Edward died of natural causes whilst Richard was spirited away to be brought up at the Abbey of St John in Colchester. He became a bri http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Princes-in-the-Tower-Thought-1-1374436.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:48:27.513 The Plantagenets From: Greensleeves  (Original Message)Sent: 7/7/2006 12:03 AMThey know where Edward IV & Elizabeth Woodville are buried....why can't they do DNA testing on the remains found in the 1600s under the Tower staircase & prove once & for all if it's them?  Plus all the Tudo http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Margaret-of-Anjou-1-1374433.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:46:19.06 The Plantagenets From: ReplacedJudymar  (Original Message)Sent: 7/26/2006 7:52 AMI just finished reading Jean Plaidy's "Rose of Anjou" about Margaret wife of Henry VI. Not only was she more "forceful" than I had previously thought, but with the exception of Henry being totally out of it for about a year du http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/What-Happened-to-Edward-II-1-1374427.html Forever_Amber 2009-04-28 06:53:21.247 The Plantagenets From: LadyoftheGlade1  (Original Message)Sent: 6/23/2002 12:20 AMEdward I...Was known as, The Hammer of the Scots, also named, The English Justinian, subdued the Welsh, went on crusade....(much more) Edward II... was gay, poor king, got himself assasinated with a hot poker up his butt http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Berengaria-of-Navarrre-1-1374420.html Forever_Amber 2009-03-02 12:24:20.53 The Plantagenets From: Berengaria  (Original Message)Sent: 9/21/2002 10:15 PMBerengaria of Navarre(1163/65-1230)Queen of EnglandBerengaria was the Queen of Richard I of England. A Princess of Navarre, Berngaria was the daughter of Sancho VI of Navarre. She was said the have been very beautiful and well edu http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/The-Best-Plantagenet-King-1-1374417.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:30:35.513 The Plantagenets From: ForeverAmber  (Original Message)Sent: 6/28/2002 12:43 PMI would hazard a guess that it is pretty clear to everyone that my favorite of all the Plantagenet monarchs would have to be Richard III!  Just cuz he was a damn fine king & didn't get a fair shake, either in life or in http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/The-Eclipse-of-the-Sunne-in-Splendor-1-1374413.html Forever_Amber 2010-06-29 13:26:30.173 The Plantagenets From: Greensleeves  (Original Message)Sent: 7/18/2005 8:30 PMGot to thinking about how Edward IV only managed to last till age 42.  You look at contemporary accounts of his demise, & basically wenching & drinking gets the blame for it LOL  Now naturally that I want to I c http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/I-Do-I-Do-for-now-1-1374404.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:25:17.81 The Plantagenets From: ForeverAmber  (Original Message)Sent: 5/5/2005 6:32 PMJust pondering the ladies' man Edward IV & wondering....do we think there was any truth in his precontract with Eleanor Butler prior to his marriage with Elizabeth Woodville?From: terrilee62Sent: 5/6/2005 8:48 AMIt could very http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Cicely-Neville-1-1374402.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:19:12.03 The Plantagenets From: Lady Helen  (Original Message)Sent: 6/13/2005 6:47 PMWas there any truth to the rumor that Edward IV was not Richard Duke of Yorks son because of a affair his mother was alledgedly supposed to have had?? Was this use against Edward's sone Edward V when he was passed over for Richard http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Richard-Maligned-Again-1-1374400.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:17:34.967 The Plantagenets From: terrilee62  (Original Message)Sent: 5/11/2005 8:27 AMOK, this is the kind of thing that makes me crazy!  Reading an article about George Lucas and the new Star Wars movie coming out next week, it begins like this: Lucas Glad to Leave Star Wars BehindMay 10, 12:28 PM ESTThe http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/An-Uncommon-Commoner-1-1374396.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:15:13.263 The Plantagenets From: ForeverAmber  (Original Message)Sent: 6/8/2003 9:45 AMBegats Time!!! LOLWhen recounting the apocryphal meeting between Elizabeth Woodville and King Edward IV beneath the oak tree near the Woodville family manor that led to their clandestine wedding in May 1464, history books almost i http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/The-Last-Plantagenet-King-1-1374392.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:12:16.56 The Plantagenets From: ForeverAmber  (Original Message)Sent: 6/25/2002 3:38 AMDATELINE: LONDONJune 25, 1483 Meeting at Westminster, Parliament decided that Richard, Duke of Gloucester, Lord Protector of the Realm, should be asked to assume the throne in lieu of his nephew, Edward V.  They had dec http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Edward-II-Bad-Rap-1-1374388.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:09:47.53 The Plantagenets From: O'hUigin  (Original Message)Sent: 1/6/2003 7:24 PMI read a book recently about Edward II.  I confess he has always interested me because of his most unusual death, or what is generally accepted about his death.  I was considering the irony of his deposition, death and then http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Eleanor-the-Troubadors-1-1374384.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:07:47.95 The Plantagenets From: ForeverAmber  (Original Message)Sent: 12/21/2002 2:06 AMEleanor’s inheritance of the duchy of Aquitaine ensured her a unique existence as a politically powerful woman of the middle ages. But underlying her vast political influence was a cultural one of innumerable value. Her lifelong http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Simon-de-Montfort-1-1374382.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:06:21.36 The Plantagenets From: Greensleeves  (Original Message)Sent: 8/13/2002 4:00 PMSimon de Montfort was married to Eleanor, daughter of King John & Isabella d'Angouleme, sister of Henry III.  Henry was weak with ineffective rule,forced by the barons to sign the Provisions of Oxford (the Magna Car http://forum1.aimoo.com/allmytudors/category/Richard-I-the-Acre-Massacre-1-1374378.html Forever_Amber 2009-02-19 21:04:48.747 The Plantagenets From: ForeverAmber  (Original Message)Sent: 8/20/2002 3:41 AMDATELINE:Acre.....August 20, 1191.....Richard I of England, aka the Lion Heart, massacred nearly 3,000 Saracen hostages at Acre.  Why?  Saladin owed him money! In exchange for sparing the lives of Acre's defenders,