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(Date Posted:08/17/2009 7:02 AM)
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Under the 'someone must make her stop' category - Philippa Gregory is publishing yet another 'historical' novel about Elizabeth Woodville - called 'The White Queen'.  The blurb on the author's website says "With this contradictory parentage of mine:  solid English earth and French water goddess, one could expect anything from me: an enchantress or an ordinary girl.  There are those who will say I am both."  Apparently you can follow la Liz on Twitter (!) with entries such as 'WhiteI lay a curse on whoever took my son from the Tower, I swear that he will lose his son and grandson and have nothing left but girls.' (gasp - foreshadowing!!) and this morning these three tweets - 'The future opens before me like snow melting. Will I see my daughter on the throne that was mine, my son named as Richard’s heir?' 'We have to wait. Can Richard’s wife Anne Neville accept a divorce? And if she not, will the North back her – their own – against Richard?'  'Despite my own caution, despite my own fears, I start to hope. Richard will marry my daughter and I will bring my son home' - she has also said that her son Richard is safely in Flanders, 'Only I know for sure, there is a Prince, like one in a fairytale, waiting in Tournai, living like a poor boy, studying his books. Waiting'.....

Apparently the tweets from Liz only last through today and then you can view them all on the author's website starting tomorrow..the book's release date. 
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RE:The White Queen
(Date Posted:08/22/2009 2:01 PM)

Methinks I am going to puke smiley1

WTF is wrong w/ PG???  She destroyed the Tudors & now she's gonna mess with Woodvilles?  Has she no shame?  Imagine how many humps Dickon will end up with if she's not as fond of him as she is of Anne Boleyn smiley4
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RE:The White Queen
(Date Posted:08/22/2009 2:06 PM)

OK that right there.....Jacquetta de la St Pol was from Luxembourg.....that ain't French & HOW is she a "water goddess"? smiley1  I've heard of her being accused of witchcraft (tho not to the extreme of Eleanor de Bohun, Humphrey of Gloucester's wife), but water goddess?

WHAT is PG smoking & can we have some? smiley9

I knew it was just a matter of time....they got John Quincy Adams tweeting diary excerpts from a trip he took to Russia over there smiley6
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RE:The White Queen
(Date Posted:08/23/2009 5:00 PM)

I must confess - I have the book on reserve at our local library - I want to read it but I'm NOT going to buy it!  

I've always liked the story of Jaqcuetta & Richard Woodville - she was married at 17 to John Duke of Bedford (Henry VI's uncle), who was 43.  They were married 3 years when the Duke died - his chamberlain, Richard Woodville, was asked by the king to escort the widow back to England.  They fell in love & married without the king's permission (shades of Brandon & Mary Tudor??).  Anyway, their love match became overshadowed in history by their daughter's marriage to Edward IV, but they interest me.

I have read that this novel also hilights the bond between Elizabeth & her brother Anthony - which I have always wanted to read more about.  Anthony Woodville is often forgotten.
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RE:The White Queen
(Date Posted:08/25/2009 1:07 PM)

The Duchess of Bedford became a virtual nonentity for marrying so far beneath her, so it must've been a love story.  From all accounts Bedford was a good guy, but I'm sure most 17-year-old girls weren't swooning at the notion of marrying a man in his 40s, & it was done in rather indecent haste after the death of his 1st wife, Anne of Burgundy.  At least he was so busy trying to hold the English claim to France that he wasn't home much to bother her ROFL

Much as I hate to be even slightly anti-Ricardian, I do sometimes think Richard was hasty in getting rid of Anthony Woodville.  From what I've seen he seemed to be the best of a bad lot & he might have been persuaded to support Richard.  He was quite intelligent, religious, & a huge patron of the arts, & at least he's also remembered for being the author of the first book printed in English as well as for losing his head.  Then again, I can see why Richard regarded a Woodville with half a brain as a huge threat.

I don't know, I'm sure it was different back then, but how folk could just run amuck blithely cutting off the heads of friends & rellies is beyond me.  I mean, nowadays when someone really aggravates you & you're all I'm going to kill him....you can't ROFL  Well, you could, but most folk aren't worth doing time for.  Then they could do it, & sometimes in the heat of the moment, like what happened with Hastings.  You have to wonder if any of them regretted yelling off with his head & wished they'd calmed down before saying it.
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RE:The White Queen
(Date Posted:08/25/2009 1:40 PM)

And the bad reviews begin in 3....2....1....HERE

PS> There's a plethora of Woodville stuff in this blog FYI

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RE:The White Queen
(Date Posted:08/26/2009 8:57 PM)

Perpaps Richard remebered whas happened when big brother Edward pardoned one of those Beaufort Somersets - he went back on his word before the year was out.  It seems that Edward was much more likely to pardon rather than kill nobles before his mid-reign exile to Burgundy.  Perhaps Richard didn't want to wait to give folks a chance to turn on him.  And really, as much as I like and admire Anthony Woodville (I agree, probably the best of the lot), he was committed to being the guardian of his nephew, and not at all likely to submit to Richard declaring them bastards.

As to regretting saying 'off with his head', Elizabeth famously did, after she signed the execution order for MQOS.  Although it's hard to know when she was acting & when she really meant it, I do think she was terrible reluctant to order the death of a fellow anointed queen, and I believe she truly did regret it, even though she understand the reasons it had to happen.
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RE:The White Queen
(Date Posted:08/27/2009 5:15 AM)

Nother bad review HERE  I think the reviewer sez it all in her 1st word: UNDERWHELMED LOL

OK we knew THIS was coming just by the title....PGs next book is sposed to be called The Red Queen & be about Margaret of Anjou.  It might be groatworthy just to see HOW she's going to manage to make French She-Wolf #2 a sympathetic character smiley4
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RE:The White Queen
(Date Posted:08/29/2009 3:15 PM)

The Boleyn Inheritance was sooooooo bad I don't know if I can ever force myself to sit through another of PGs novels again smiley6  Didn't she have an MQOS one recently BTW?  I don't know what PGs problem is, because her earlier novels aren't that bad & I particularly enjoyed the 2 books about John Tradescant, Charles Is gardener (Earthly Joys & Virgin Earth).  It sems the more famous the person the worse job she does.  It's pretty bad when the movie (The Other Boleyn Girl) is better than the book!
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