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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:03/07/2009 12:09 PM)
I was always fond of Henry's "I like her not" as re Anne of Cleves.
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MarkGB
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:03/07/2009 1:51 PM)
Perhaps the most famous of them all - Henry II, December 1170, "Will nobody rid me of the turbulent priest".
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:03/25/2009 9:32 PM)
Jolly good one there 
Am I confusing Shakespeare with real history, because I vaguely recall some apocryphal tale about Richard IIs dog preferring Bolingbroke after RII came back from Ireland, & RII saying something like (& I paraphrase egregiously) "Even Math knows who is master of this realm?"
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TudorChick
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:03/27/2009 2:24 PM)
How about Elizabeth saying, on Thomas Seymour's death, "This day died a man of much wit and very little judgment."
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Reply To TudorChick
(Date Posted:04/21/2009 7:52 AM)
Perhaps not pithy, but I always get a shiver when I read, at the close of a book about Richard III, the quote in the York Civic Records that 'on this day, our good King Richard was piteously slain & murdered, to the great heaviness of this city." I think they could have been sorely punished by the new regime for such a remark, yet they did so anyway.
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:05/01/2009 6:29 AM)
Two more great Elizabeth qotes:
"I do not choose that my grave should be dug while I am still alive"
in an address to Parliament when they were pestering her to name her successor.
and to Robert Cecil -
"Must! Is must a word to be addressed to princes?
Little man, little man! thy father, if he had
been alive, durst not have used that word. "
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Greensleeves
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:05/01/2009 10:39 PM)
Elizabeth was either sharp as a tack or had some great behind-the-scenes writers LOL Can you imagine anyone sassing Henry with a "must"?
O speaking of Anne of Cleves....there was that bit where peeps were trying to find out if she & Henry were getting horizontal & was she mayhap preggers yet, & Anne says, "'When he comes to bed, he kisses me and taketh me by the hand, and biddeth me 'Goodnight, sweetheart,' and in the morning, kisses me, and biddeth me, 'Farewell, darling.' Is this not enough?"
Females was woefully unedjamacated in those days lemmee tell ya LOL Can you imagine a woman in her 20s not knowing where babies come from nowadays?
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Greensleeves
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:05/01/2009 10:42 PM)
O look....under Terrilee's last post we got an ad hit for Henry VIII primary documents LOL If they keep this up maybe those ads won't be so annoying to scroll past.
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Forever_Amber
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:05/04/2009 4:25 AM)
Nell Gwyn had some good lines. There's the one where her carriage was attacked by a mob thinking it contained the Catholic Louise de Kerouaille, one of Charles IIs other mistresses, & Nell stuck her head out the window & yelled, "Good people, you are mistaken, I am the Protestant whore" to much cheering.
Also the one about her calling to her elder son by the king, "Charles, you little bastard, come here!" & when his father was appalled, she replied sweetly, "But Your Majesty has given me no other title by which I may call him". I can't decide which of these tales of how Nell's kids got titled better, as there's also another one where she supposedlt hung poor little Charles by his ankles out a window & threatened to drop him unless the king did something about a title (& I guess this line would be Charles's, then), so the king said, "God save the Earl of Burford!" to get her to stop. I'd like to think the 1st story is the true one, as Nell was known more for her wit than for her tantrums (that would be Castlemaine ROFL).
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Forever_Amber
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:05/06/2009 4:16 AM)
I was trying to think of that satiric epitaph on Charles II after that last post:
Here lies our Sovereign Lord the King,
Whose word no man relies on,
Who never said a foolish thing,
Nor ever did a wise one.
To which Charles replied something along the lines of, well, of course, I speak for myself but my councilors are responsible for what they do in my name. I bet Charles would've been a fun dinner date ROFL
I had to go surf for it because I couldn't remember it all. It's one of the many poems of John Wilmot, the Earl of Rochester, another one like Darnley where you think he was pretty young to be dying of syphilis, just how much action did these guys get & how early did they start? I found it at a site called Old Poetry & they pretty much have the entire Wilmot collection there, so I had a look.
I fear for the future of this planet now ROFL Visitors are allowed to comment, as on a lot of sites, & the commentary of some had me shaking my head. There were a few that were all "Gee, I didn't know they had the f-word & the c-word back then"  ....like it was just invented especially for the 21st century or something  ....as his poetry is peppered with the profane. Folk is commenting "they had porn back then?" There's this terribly sad poem he must've written while he was in the end stages of syphilis about how his equipment alas no longer works & how it got him into this predicament & someone comments "o that's so erotic"  Probably his most famous poem, after C2s, is a hysterical parody of Restoration Court life morals, even funnier if one knows the players as he does mention lots of Stuart movers & shakers, & some stick in the mud (from UK no less judging by the phrasing of her post, & they complain TTOS is naturally dumbed down for the Americans) has to comment on what "facile shallow rubbish" it is. I'm thinking she was expecting something explicit as the title of the poem is Signior Dildo ROFL & was disappointed that she couldn't tell the players without a scorecard. I mean, this poem is a scream & he was known for being a jaded, cynical satirist, so I'm just not getting it
What killed me the most was the girl who posted she'd never read such a long poem before & keep up the good writing LMAO Honey, the man has been deceased since 1680.
I am seriously starting to think that anyone born past 1970 did not receive the sort of education us older folk did (Message edited by Forever_Amber On 05/06/2009 4:21 AM)
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MarkGB
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:05/06/2009 12:18 PM)
What amazes me is that some people have no concept of time. King John and Lord Nelson could have met each other as far as their knowledge goes.
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Berengaria
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:05/08/2009 9:03 AM)
Weren't they in league with the three great warrior queens, Isabella, Boudicca, and Joan of Arc, at the siege of Acre? That reminds me of what someone posted at the old AMT about The Other Boleyn Girl, that a friend had the ending of the movie ruined for her when told about the execution scene and was hoping Anne and Henry would live happily ever after.
Edward IVs fool came to entertain wearing a short shirt and no pants and said it was because "The Rivers are so deep in this kingdom" in reference the the Woodvilles. I always thought that was a great play on words.
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Forever_Amber
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:05/23/2009 9:08 PM)
How about Elizabeth & the fart? ROFL
Legend has it that Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford, let go a loud ripe one when bowing to the queen one day, stinking up the palace. The poor man was so mortified he ran away from Court for quite a while. When he finally came back & made his reverence to the queen (no doubt squeezing his cheeks together & praying it wouldn't happen again), Elizabeth said to him, "My lord, you need not have stayed away from Court so long! I had completely forgotten about the fart."
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Greensleeves
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:06/13/2009 12:25 PM)
This isn't exactly a quote, but an epitaph (my that Find A Grave nonsense is addicting LOL)....& wants explaining. Elizabeth chose to be buried with, of all peeps, Mary, & their grave says:
"Consorts both in throne and grave, here rest we two sisters, Elizabeth and Mary in the hope of one resurrection".
What's that supposed to mean? The one resurrection bit. Seeing as they each prolly thought the other would burn in Hellfire for not following the True Faith. And why would Elizabeth want to be buried with Mary? Why not move Mom or some other rellie?
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RE:They Said WHAT?
(Date Posted:10/07/2009 6:09 PM)
I've always wondered why Elizabeth never moved Anne Boleyn out of the Tower. James moved MQOS, didn't he? She wore that ring with her mother's miniature in it, so there must've been some feeling there for a parent she probably couldn't even remember.
Here's a good line Elizabeth said to Dudley:
"You are like my little dog; when people see you, they know I am nearby."
ROFL
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Naturally I will commence the festivities with:
A lot of Richard's problem was that he was hardly ever at Edward IVs court & was the mighty Lord of the North which the Percys weren't fussed over at all & changed coats on him, too. I think it does say something about his character that the York peeps would dare incur Henry VIIs wrath by publicizing that.
