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Title: Ghost Hunters guys interview Yvette Fielding from Most Haunted
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(Date Posted:06/20/2007 11:58 PM)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YHhskkKCSEPart 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT09_yerNiE&mode=related&search=Part 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQRgO92sA7E&mode=related&search=Part 3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCWW-0OtyOM&mode=related&search=Part 4Man... these guys can't be more high on their own methods... must be nice to rig events for tv and then claim Most Haunted is crap... yikes... get it together guys... they just get further and further down my list as they keep putting their feet in their mouths... seriously.... listen to the whole program (about a half hour in all) and listen to the parts where they SLAM the Most Haunted show in the beginning and once Yvette is on the phone suddenly, "what do you mean we think you're nuts?" etc. And then to sit there and say they don't fake anything... um - hello? I've heard from more than one source ON the show that things are "re-enacted" for the cameras... some of their most "incredible" moments if you will if not caught the way they would like it presented... I could really go on for quite a while. These guys have got a little too much ego for my taste.... if only I had the means to go all the places for they get to go... and see for myself.
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(Date Posted:07/01/2007 5:02 PM)

They had an 'A Haunting' marathon on Discovery Channel on Saturday.  Now THAT was entertainment!
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(Date Posted:06/26/2007 1:02 AM)

Absolutely - these shows are just entertainment.  But these so called characters take themselves WAY too seriously I think... talk about the ego getting in the way.  I have no problem with mediumship as a practice, but I like a little proof to back stuff up.  As of right now I don't think any amount of gadgetry will ever prove it to me either though.  Being as no one even knows what a ghost is composed of (besides energy, and obviously no one knows what KIND of energy) to be able to measure it appropriately. Therefore I'm not too fond of the air ion detector theore or radiation detectors or other such nonsense.  Is ghost radiation - probably not.  I'm "ok" with EMF since that seems to be the closest we have come to "detecting" an outside energy, but obviously that almost has more faults than validity for all intents and purposes.  I like using photo, video, EVP personally, but those areas too are way too forgiving to error in this venue.  Combine all three methods though and you get things to coincide, then I'll pay attention.  No, I'm not rolling my eyes Mark - I just like things to match all around.  I really don't take one of any format to mean anything.  If you get to investigate with me you'll know that.  I pretty much debunk anything that comes my way, but that's just the way it is.  I don't want everyone running around thinking they've got ghosts when that is really 99% sure it's not the case.  Imaginations get the best of people.  Now, if you get two or more of the methods to coincide, then you've got my attention. 

My two cents though, is until someone knows what the heck a ghost is and how to measure it, I pretty much think all the tech stuff is a bunch of bullshit that people play up to pretend they know what the hell they're doing... but hey... maybe they know something the rest of the world doesn't about what a ghost really is and just won't let the rest of us in on the big secret.

(Yes, I'm tyring to pull some of our illustrious "tech" crew out of the woodwork on this to show me what you got! LOL )

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(Date Posted:06/25/2007 2:03 AM)

Wow, don't sugarcoat it, tell us what you really think!  

Just kidding! 

But seriously, I personally see all of those shows as being entertainment.  The fault lies with the producers and the networks for trying to presenting them as a real, scientific shows that offer factual evidence of something (I hate the term 'paranormal') that is outside of most individuals experiences. 

Not to mention the fact that no matter what someone comes up with for 'genuine' proof, somebody somewhere will find a way to debunk it.  That is why (no offence meant anyone), I am not a huge fan of the so-called 'technical' validation. 

(Feel free to roll your eyes at me Erica, I know your views on mediumship as validation )

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(Date Posted:06/24/2007 5:09 PM)

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I guess I have a little bit closer of an understanding of the show GhostHunters than the general public might.  I do KNOW for a fact that many of their occurances on "film" are re-enacted for the cameras.  And if you watch their shows lately they are passing off a lot of so called "evidence" that can easily be dubunked by the most mundane and novice ghosthunter.  So it really confuses me in general, the success of the show.  They are not even "likeable" people for me to want to watch.  Most Haunted really doesn't have an excuse either.  But as far as Yvette being "defensive" Ann, I think that is because they really did attack her (well, Jason mostly) about some really stupid points, when she could have easily turned the tables back on them she just had to take the flack back on her end.  Neither show is legitimate to me, but when they are sitting there BASHING outright on her character before having her on the phone and saying they are all idiots for the most part - and then swear up and down that is not what they are doing when she is finally on the phone.  Not cool - bad form boys.  Made that respect meter drop another few notches.  Not that it is all that high to begin with. 

And don't even get me started on Brian - because he is no longer on the show (though they are still showing "new" epdisodes with him in it - he hasn't been a part of the team (again) for quite a while.  Yes, he is the creator of "Dude Run" and in the last episode I watched a week or two ago with him in it (England I believe) he said something along the lines of how he doesn't understand why people are so afraid of the paranormal and get all freaked out... um... ok, just shut it already... "dude, RUUUUN".  No respect for you anyways.

And as for questioning the sensibility of Most Haunted fans... I question those of the Ghost Hunters fans as well.  People are so willing to go along the ride with these guys without taking note of what is real and not, and taking their words as THE WORDS.  Do a little background research first, it'll be interesting to hear what people say about them when they actually know a little bit more about the goings on of that show.  I'd like to hear more of your thoughts then guys!   They certainly play ghost hunters on tv, but when it comes down to it, their investigative skills are quite lacking as well as the presentation that is supposed to be what carries the group. 

Not that I'm siding with Most Haunted, but I just think this was one more push in a bad direction for these guys.  I can't stand that group... sorry! LOL

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(Date Posted:06/23/2007 5:55 AM)

Thanks for posting the links. I had not heard those, and they were a hoot!. Like I told the people who went to the June meeting, I can't handle the "Most Haunted" girls and guys. Jay and Grant made a great comment about how the Most Haunted people ALWAYS had spirit activity wherever they went, while the T.A.P.S. people had a much lower success rate. I liken the Most Haunted group to "professional" wrestling. It's all about entertaining, very little is real, and  I question the sensibility of their fans.

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(Date Posted:06/21/2007 5:26 AM)

Hmmm... Yvette is a little defensive.....particularly at the end.   LOL  You know their (Most Haunted) producers call the show entertainment--why are the "actors" taking it so seriously?  It sounds as if they believe they are professional paranormal investigators.  There really is no such thing.   Yes we, act professionally when we go on investigations but we are not professionals--we are just investigators, learning more with each investigation.  Producing or being in a show about the paranormal does not make  you an expert in the paranormal. Grant and Jason appear to understand that (for the most part, not sure about their whole team though) Yvette does not.  Though all of them have huge egos--the mine is better then yours is obvious throughout the interveiw.   I think we see a lot of that amoung all paranormal groups--the "my evidence is better then yours" syndrome.

As for the shows faking their evidence. I think both shows get some of that flak, but with Most Haunted it is almost impossible to believe pretty much every episode from their evidence to their antics.  Where with Ghosthunters most  (Brian's "Dude Run" not withstanding)of the issues seem to be in the interpretation of their evidence, rather then how then go about getting it.  That is every investigators issue -- the presentation of solid unrefutable evidence. Very little of that exists for the paranormal field.  It is, in the end, hard to believe any made for TV paranormal evidence.

Anyway....What I believe  about these shows is irrelevant--it is after all TV!  That's entertainment!!!

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(Date Posted:06/20/2007 11:58 PM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YHhskkKCSE Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT09_yerNiE&mode=related&search= Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQRgO92sA7E&mode=related&search= Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCWW-0OtyOM&mode=related&search= Part 4

Man... these guys can't be more high on their own methods... must be nice to rig events for tv and then claim Most Haunted is crap... yikes... get it together guys...  they just get further and further down my list as they keep putting their feet in their mouths... seriously.... listen to the whole program (about a half hour in all) and listen to the parts where they SLAM the Most Haunted show in the beginning and once Yvette is on the phone suddenly, "what do you mean we think you're nuts?" etc.  And then to sit there and say they don't fake anything... um - hello?  I've heard from more than one source ON the show that things are "re-enacted" for the cameras... some of their most "incredible" moments if you will if not caught the way they would like it presented... I could really go on for quite a while.  These guys have got a little too much ego for my taste. 

... if only I had the means to go all the places for they get to go... and see for myself.

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