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(Date Posted:02/08/2007 2:59 AM)
Reply to : Kiger Dreaming
Received this email. Seems to me that it's KMA with a new name. If I'm wrong please let me know. ToniHi Toni,I've been busy lately with the formation of a newassociation and registry. Check it out athttp://www.kigerhorse.org We are striving for anassociation that is more member-oriented while stillmaintaining the intrigity of the Kiger breed in theregistry. It is still in its infantacy, butdeveloping every day. Come join us!Jillian McIntosh
Take a look at the listed officers and that should be enough of an answer. This is one road I will never go down. Now it seems we may have two branches of the same quagmire.
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(Date Posted:02/08/2007 9:05 PM)
"While maintaining integrity within the breed"? Is that what she said? With all those found horses? and..get ready to have your mailboxes flooded with all that behind-the-scenes-artillliary we are so familiar with.
Usually, I'd say, whoever wants to give it a shot, power to them, but ...Nope, this sure ain't the new registry I want.
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(Date Posted:02/09/2007 6:16 AM)
I don't understand Bettye. why is this not a good thing? I don't follow the politics nor know them. Can you explain this to me either on here or email so no one gets offended?
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(Date Posted:02/09/2007 7:20 AM)
Over the last 19 years there has been things that made me ashamed that we ever started this breed but to day is absolutely the worst I have ever felt . For the horses not the people.
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(Date Posted:02/09/2007 9:10 PM)
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I don't understand Bettye. why is this not a good thing? I don't follow the politics nor know them. Can you explain this to me either on here or email so no one gets offended?
Oh, hon, you've been around too long, I bet you do know something of the politics. Horses that are not Kigers have being passed off as Kigers for 15 years. Not to improve the breed, but to line pockets.
As for offending anyone, you can't inhale around here without offending somebody. But then, we can't all have the same point of view, it would make for a dull world.. I'm vocal alright, but probably not very popular. Ciest la vie, the right to express an opinion is still there, eh?.
I believe KHAR will certainly solve the problem of untimely registration, which is a very important thing. I bet that they will get accolades for rapid transit of paperwork.. Something that will encourage other registries to step to the plate in that respect.
But beyond that, it appears to carry with it the same set of problems that existed in the KMA. Namely, the promotion of found horses (pseudo-Kigers) , people reported to be prone to infighting, and a farciful inspection process.
I will oppose the found horse fiasco for as long as I own Kiger horses. Period. Not because adding some outside blood is a horrible thing, but because It was done for the wrong reasons and in the wrong way and conducted underneath the sheets at the expense of unsuspecting innocent buyers. It therefore costs us the opportunity to represent these horses as honestly as they should have been represented. .
And I simply will never respect an inspection process when it is conducted by amatuer owners. When processed by the unqualified, it becomes a self-important procedure that actually harms breed credibility, magnified when one considers the BLM source of this breed . If the U.S. Goverment issues a title on a horse saying it is a Kiger, then no inspection process in the world can change that fact. Pictures say a lot about where this breed is headed, and right now it doesn't look real good. Things were actually more promising back in 1995! The KHAR photo gallery confirms to me that we are light years away from having professional horsemen involve themselves with Kigers : pix of out-of-shape so-called endurance pairs (duh! an endurance rider has to be as fit as the horse!) , and reiners on fear-eyed horses being cranked, mouth gaping, to a stop. (yecch!) Now I can only assume the people in those pictures are the KHAR "inspectors", since some of them held similar positions in the past in KMA. Professional horsemen will continue to be put off...not so much by the Kigers, but by the Kiger owners who claim to be on a professional level, and when I see pictures like that I feel it just is not the case. I certainly realize that we can't all be Bobby Ingersoll, I personally am about as amateur a rider as they come. And there is certainly nothing wrong with being a novice or even a slightly below-average or even a slightly above-average rider. But that's not what qualifies a person to be an inspector in my mind. I have sense enough to identify hype, am only saying that the Kiger community, as a whole. implies credentials that it actually lacks, and that kind of thing always catches up to itself eventually.. On a personal note, I just am not the least bit interested in having my horses evaluated by people who are no more skilled than I am, and in some cases, less skilled. That's just how I feel about it. To submit to that process is a waste of time and money. as far as I'm concerned . I'm sure I have incensed some people by voicing my impression of the photos mentioned, but that IS the impression that I got.
This just looks too much like KMA, quicker paperwork is its only virtue that i can see. Otherwise it's the same airplane, just a different pilot. No, I'm not interested in this one, especially since the options are plentiful. I do not believe the KHAR can change the present situation where, the most valuable Kiger papers you can get still come from Uncle Sam.
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MysticKiger
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(Date Posted:02/09/2007 9:32 PM)
Personally, I'm interested in finding out more about English Reining!
........ and how does a horse with up to 39% outside blood qualify as a Traditional when a full blooded grey qualifies as Part????
Karen
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(Date Posted:02/09/2007 10:09 PM)
As usual,Bettye,You are right on...at least Most of the time ! I have to burst your bubble on the reference to "out of shape endurance riders !!"There are plenty of them out there and if they're doing well,it's cause they ride exceptional horses.A good,fit ,experienced rider ,can get an average horse into the top ten,but when the opposite is true,it's the horse that deserves extra credit!
But back to the topic we all love to hate....last weekend at the clinic I attended,I saw a horse that would have been eligable to be a KMA kiger ,in fact when I first saw him,I ran up to his owner & said...ohhh,is that a kiger???She was a little taken back,not sure if she even knew what a kiger was,but,this colt was THE flashiest dun factor horse I've seen in ages.Huge dorsal with prominate wither stipes,stripes all up 4 legs,striped ears,frosted mane !!WHEW,what a lovely boy,good conformation & handsome head.....AND a pure bred,registered Quarter Horse!!!!
My point ?Inspection is not an option for registration of kiger mustangs.The ONLY horses that will ever be KIger Mustangs must be able to trace their relatives back to BLM branded horse from either Kiger HMA. Color doesn't matter only their bloodlines.A kiger is a breed developed in a specific place over many years,it's not a type or colored horse that comes from anywhere else.
To my mind,the KMA should have been DMA,or Dun Mustang Assoc. & then they could go the color,inspection route & no one would say boo,but since they were interested in money & not preserving the original horses uniqueness the horses' future is now threatened .What a shame
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