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(Date Posted:05/04/2006 8:18 PM)

Urgent action is needed. The New York Legislature has introduced misguided bills -- S02164 and A14253 -- which would require boarding kennels and grooming facilities to obtain proof ofANNUAL VACCINATION"against distemper, hepatitis, para influenza, leptospirosis, parvo and bordetella during the previous year"for dogs and"against feline viral rhinotracheitis, feline calicivirus,or feline panleuopenia within the past year"for cats engaging their services (http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgiinsert S02164 in the box at the top after "Bill No.", click "2006" and check the "text" box to read the text of the bill).If these bills pass, companion animals in New York will berequired by lawto be overvaccinated in order to board or groom their animals. PLEASE copy the e-mail addresses of the NY legislators below in my "TO:" line and send them an e-mail urging them to vote against this irrational legislation.PERMISSION GRANTED TO POST AND CROSS-POST THIS MESSAGE. Please help spread the word.Regards, Kris L. Christinecyoung@senate.state.ny.us;padavan@senate.state.ny.us;lavalle@senate.state.ny.us;seward@senate.state.ny.us;morahan@senate.state.ny.us;little@senate.state.ny.us;winner@senate.state.ny.us;valesky@senate.state.ny.us;stachows@senate.state.ny.us;breslin@senate.state.ny.us;jdklein@senate.state.ny.us;fuschill@senate.state.ny.us;nozzolio@senate.state.ny.us;marcelli@senate.state.ny.us;ojohnson@senate.state.ny.us;robach@senate.state.ny.us;krueger@senate.state.ny.us;sabini@senate.state.ny.us;hassellt@senate.state.ny.us;alessim@ assembly.state.ny.us;butlerm@ assembly.state.ny.us;abbatep@ assembly.state.ny.us;benedem@ assembly.state.ny.us;delmonf@ assembly.state.ny.us;destitr@ assembly.state.ny.us;cohena@ assembly.state.ny.us;camarak@ assembly.state.ny.us;crouchc@ assembly.state.ny.us;cymbros@ assembly.state.ny.us;GiglioJ@ assembly.state.ny.us;finchg@ assembly.state.ny.us;fieldsg@ assembly.state.ny.us;rabbita@ assembly.state.ny.us;GuntheA@ assembly.state.ny.us;Pheffea@ assembly.state.ny.us;riverap@ assembly.state.ny.us;mcenenj@ assembly.state.ny.us;RosentL@ assembly.state.ny.us;McDonoD@ assembly.state.ny.us;mengj@ assembly.state.ny.us;markeym@ assembly.state.ny.us;liftonb@ assembly.state.ny.us;maisela@ assembly.state.ny.us;mcdonar@ assembly.state.ny.us;mageew@ assembly.state.ny.us;peraltj@ assembly.state.ny.us;reillyr@ assembly.state.ny.us;tonkop@ assembly.state.ny.us

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(Date Posted:05/05/2006 1:14 AM)

I hope I am reading this correctly, maybe I'm confused....

Any boarding facility I've ever used in NY state, which is where I live, has ALWAYs required proof of vaccination. Why would I want my dogs exposed to an unvaccinated animal?

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(Date Posted:05/05/2006 1:59 AM)

There is no need to vacinnate our pets annually.  It is very unhealthy for the pet--causes deadly reactions, cancer, and various other disorders.  Think about it this way, why do humans only need vacinations every few years--sometimes over 10 years apart?  It is the same for our pets.  There are many healthier alternatives--talk to your holistic vet.
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(Date Posted:05/05/2006 9:46 PM)

With the new AVMA and AAHA recommedations, as well as veterinary schools switching to a 3 year vaccine protocol, I don't understand why the legislature is trying to push this into law as it goes against the current recommendations.  The only vaccine that I think should be required annually, if not every 6 months, would be Bordetella as the recent research has shown the protection may only last 6 -12 months.

It makes you wonder if the legislature has even bothered to contact the veterinary community about this as to what is correct. 

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(Date Posted:05/05/2006 10:30 PM)

Here in Iowa the only thing required is Rabies and a 3 year will work. When people drop off their pets to be groomed or boarded the staff looks at their vax records. It has everything on it but the only thing needed by law is Rabies like Lori said, the Vet recommendations have been changed to. I hate to hear the state is telling us how many chemicals we have to put in our MS when the vet says they aren't needed. 

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(Date Posted:05/10/2006 5:02 AM)

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OK guys - guess I haven't posted on this topic in a while.  For the long-time members this will be a repeat...so skip as you wish.

Short form in my own lay-terms:

HEALTHY dogs' immune systems have the capability to "remember" exposure and immune response to any threat to the body. Once exposed - whether it is from puppy shots, walking in the park, picking up something on the floor of the groomer's shop - wherever - the body starts to mount a defense and then it remembers that response and the next time the dog is exposed the body responds again.  No need for any "reminder" vax or boosters.  That's why if you forget the boosters your vet wants you to give - if you go past the "due date" by six months - but your dog is still out and about in parks, your yard, etc. - the dog does not get sick.

Compare to humans:  WE do not need annual vaccinations - or even THREE YEAR vaccinations - to fight off most illnesses.  We healthy individuals are not normally at risk for measles, chicken pox, mumps, etc. - all the things we were vaccinated against in childhood.  Same for dogs.... When my 15 year old Gizmo passed a year ago she had not had any vax in years and years - - and years and more years.  When my 14 year old Rosie passed not long ago, she had not been vaccinated in years as well. Neither had been seriously ill with anything during that time.  And I live in the middle of the desert where the winds blow in all kinds of germs and the varmits carry all the other kinds of germs.  Why?  Because their immune systems remember the last response they built to these illnesses. 

Point of fact:  I had a dog WITH DISTEMPER here in my house for several weeks.  None of my other dogs - old or young - contracted that very contagious illness.  Why did that dog get it?  Because he had received vax under an old protocol for show dogs requiring parvo and distemper shots for puppies every 10 days until 20 weeks of age - and then again at six months.  It killed his immune system.

Vaccines have a place - but not on a regular basis.  Healthy dogs do NOT need shots every three years.  Healthy dogs do not need any shots after (perhaps) the first year boosters.  I don't even give those.  I have 3 generations of dogs that have received only puppy shots and still had immunity in the 3rd generation from the dams.

With tip of the "respect hat" to Doc Lori - even Bordatella is a ridiculous thing to repeat and repeat and repeat.  It's like a cold to a healthy animal - and the vast majority recover from it with no attention at all. In fact, many of the long-time breeders I know never give Bordatella for just that reason.   Give a dog a shot every six months - geesh.  Fact is, the Bordatella shot covers FEW of the strains of Bordatella out there - there are dozens of them.  So you may give the shot for 6-12 varieties - but what if your area is infected only with the 14th and 22nd varieties?  You've put chemicals in your dog but they treat nothing.  Same with automatic worming of puppies.  It's nonsense!  It is NOT true that ALL dogs have worms when they are born.  I've NEVER had any puppies with worms - and I NEVER worm the pups.  I always do stool samples at their first vet visit and encourage buyers to do the same.

Think people, think!  It's common sense.  Feed poorly and vaccinate often and you will kill your dogs - or create a weak immune system that brings on terrible consequences later in life...arthritis being one of the major illnesses suspected of resulting from vax.

Feed well (fresh/natural foods) and vaccinate minimally - and your dog will live the long and healthy life it is intended to do.

There are so MANY scams out there - in every facet of our lives.  This is one of them - scare the people into "saving" their pets - so that vaccine manufacturers reap the profits.  Probably the state of NY is in "cahoots" with the local veterinary bigwigs.

Please read the post regarding Dr. Dodds and Dr. Shultz response to the NY bills.  And please send your own e-mail to the congresspersons.  We need to speak out on these topics....

Tania (the long lost moderator)

 

 

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