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(Date Posted:10/29/2006 5:14 PM)
Being a bit dim here, is that for playing on the computer or a DVD player?
I will look forward to your report on this.
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(Date Posted:10/29/2006 7:34 PM)
I believe it is intended for playing on a computer, but can't some DVD players also play CDs?
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(Date Posted:10/30/2006 1:24 AM)
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I believe it is intended for playing on a computer, but can't some DVD players also play CDs?
Yes Karen, mine does. I ordered the CD too. Curious to see what they did with that.
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(Date Posted:11/18/2006 1:43 PM)
Just asking as I don't think my DVD plays american ones.
Any reports back on how good it is?
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(Date Posted:11/18/2006 6:10 PM)
I haven't gotten mine yet; how about you, Tania? Seems like it should have come by now.....
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(Date Posted:11/19/2006 4:00 AM)
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I haven't gotten mine yet; how about you, Tania? Seems like it should have come by now.....
Yes, Karen, I received mine - it's been at least a week maybe two weeks. I'm pleased with it. I think it's very well-done for the most part. It has lots of pictures of good (but unidentified) dogs. I think it would have been nice to know who the dogs are. (It's funny though because you will be able to recognize quite a few of the example photos from the clothes worn by the handler - even though they show no handler faces - just dogs!  )
The thing that is probably most helpful to me is the gaiting section with videos. They have videos of GOOD movement, but none of poor movement, which would have been a bonus and most educational to be able to do the comparison. OH - and I really appreciated the discussion of the black and silver rear illusion - they explain it well and have a video also to show it.
It has a number of videos of obedience & agility which I think is really good; those events - along with earthdog and tracking (!!!!) have sections and I'm glad they are recognized along with conformation. (Warning: you have to HUNT for those sections as they are curiously placed under "TEMPERAMENT." There are some excellent photos of earthdog and again - I wish they were identified. Books that are bought in a store have the dogs identified, generally, and Kiedrowski's books are all well-identified photos. Not sure why AMSC thinks they shouldn't or don't have to give credit to all the hard-working people & dogs.
Their discussion of the standard had some drawings that helped me understand that a bit better, but overall, not a lot of new info (on that specifically) for me personally. I thought their video on how to use a "real" wicket was interesting and somewhat amusing. (Do judges really not know how to use a wicket????? EEEKKKK!) It has a quiz over the standard in it. There's a section on "sparring technique"......and a video on "how to examine a schnauzer"... Obviously it's primarily intended for judges' education, but it does say it's intended for owners as well and it's a nice thing to have for reference.
It has no grooming in it (at least that I've discovered yet - but maybe it's hidden away like the performance events are) if anyone was hoping for that. I also like and appreciate the dictionary of terminology which is very handy for "newbies" - boring as hell for the judges tho.
My only complaint (outside of dogs not being identified) is that it seems they did not ask permission to use photos (at least in every case - but I have to admit I cannot verify that. One owner of one pic said she had never been contacted about using her photo on the CD). It seems like since they are selling the CD outright that they should've had a release form for owners to sign - but I'm no lawyer. I think that's a tad bit rotten since AMSC has such a strict policy on copyrighted materials. I mean, who is going to say "NO" you can't use that photo - because I think it's somewhat an honor to have a dog chosen to represent the breed on an educational CD; but still, it was not their property and owners should have been asked...and maybe most were.
Oh, and the auto-run function doesn't always work on my computer, but maybe that's just a quirk.
Picky, aren't I, for $25? (g)
All in all a very good effort and worth the money in my opinion. Kudos to those who made all the effort to produce the CD.
Tania
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(Date Posted:11/24/2006 12:25 AM)
Thanks for the run down of the CD Tania, it sounds really interesting. I shall have to put it on my xmas wish list.
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(Date Posted:11/27/2006 7:41 AM)
My CD finally arrived today, and I enjoyed it for the most part. I do think they could have elaborated a bit more on some of the subjects, and I would have liked to have seen more photos. I had no problem navigating through it, and don't think I missed anything.
To address some of the things on which you commented.... I felt they could have picked better dogs to demonstrate good side movement, and it would have been nice to have seen those dogs on more of a loose lead. Guess I've been looking at BS for too long; I cannot understand why people think the coloring gives an optical illusion in the rear. A good rear is a good rear. (Although that BS video had me going for a moment as that dog starts out side-winding and doesn't exactly move in a straight line!) Your comment to me on good coloring on a BS... I think the one they used might have been a puppy due to the intensity of the coloring. My good ones look like that as puppies and lighten up a bit as they age.
My complaints.... under discussion of the "body", the photo of a "correct" body is a great example of the pear-shaped body shown in the drawing. I don't think the width of the shoulders should ever be wider than the rear. This same photo is shown under "hindquarters"; follow those legs down... not exactly what I would call wide.
In the Gallery of good dogs.... well, OOPS, while a lovely dog, I do think one is demonstrating a breed disqualification.
And under Sparring, it says to never bring out more than three dogs at a time.... as the photo shows four dogs sparring.
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(Date Posted:01/25/2007 7:06 AM)
Sparring?
As in....boxing? LOL
Thanks for the reviews of the cd's. And Tania, you're right about release forms. It's very unprofessional and potentially litigous to use video of people sans a release waiver.
I've done some video work myself and would never sell anything without that. For one, it's a consideration to the people involved who are part of you being able to create a video anyway. I think it is very unethical to make a profit without informing the participants that you are going to be selling the video, and that's WHY some videographers do not mention it. They don't want anyone to perk up and say,"Oh, well I'd like .01% roylaties in that case." I also think failing to make it plain what the dogs names and handlers names are in the photos or during the motion segments is pure laziness. Titling is not that hard.
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(Date Posted:01/25/2007 5:48 PM)
AMSC has its thing about everyone, every dog, being non-entities so that no single person or dog(s) can be singled out. They don't want to be labeled as putting down anyone, or by the same token, as promoting any one dog or line of dogs. Hence, everything is anonymous.
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