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(Date Posted:10/16/2006 1:49 PM)
This theory has elements of many other theories out there, and all the questions we have had are taken into consideration. if there was anything i missed, let me know, ill have an answer that ties into this theory.
here is the theory:
Why the Lostees are on the island: The Lostees have been selected because of their genes. Almost everyone on that flight has certain genes that have a natural immunity to a virus that has been manufactured by DHARMA. This is similar to how 1 in 100 people have a natural immunity to AIDS. some of the people on the plane do not have this immunity, and these people have either died in the crash, or were taken by the others. The ones that were not immune were given the cure, so they will never catch the disease. although these people cannot die or get sick from the virus, they can still carry it.
What is the virus for and Who created it: The virus was created by DHARMA, all in an effort to create the perfect utopian society. The plan was to bring the Lostees to the island and get them infected. Although the others are making it seem like they are bad guys, they are really the scientists responsible for the creation of the virus. The plan is to keep the Lostees on the island for a certain amount of time, after which they will be rescued. The Lostees do not know that they are infected, nor would the rescuers. Once rescued, they will return to their homes, accross the globe. The Lostees will unwittingly spread the highly contagious virus to the rescuers, to their friends, family, media, and after a few weeks, the virus will have infected 75% of the global population. not too long after that, 99% of the world will be infected, with the acception of the people that have a natural immunity to the virus.
How the virus kills: The virus has a form of time delay built into it. the effects of the virus will only show after a few months. by this time, it will be too late. From the moment the symptoms begin, death will occur within 24 hours. Since the world has never seen this virus, there is no cure, atleast no known cure. ofcourse, DHARMA will have the cure, and they will give it to only certain people around the globe. These people are already aware of the plan. They will be the new world leaders once the virus has finished killing.
The Plan: Once 99% of the global population is dead, The utopian society will be born. Within a matter of days, the worlds problems will be gone. There will be no more famine, no more poverty, polution will exponentially decrease, the world itself will rid itself of the threats that humans pose. Since the virus will kill off so many people, without destruction, all the planets resources will still be here. our vehicles, our internet, our electricity, all the information that has taken mankind hundreds of years to comprise. since the people left alive have the rare genes that make them immune to diseases, there will be no more AIDS, HIV, and most STD's will be eliminated. The virus will only target human genes, so the animal species around the world will not be effected, and wont have to face the threats of poaching, habitat destruction or continuing polution problems. Even the Rain Forrests will be saved.
What is DHARMA: DHARMA is much older then anyone could imagine. It was an organization formed in the early 1800's. The members of this organization include high ranking people of the largest most powerful countries in the world. This organization is top secret, and no governments around the world know of it today. The goal of DHARMA was and always has been to create the perfect utopian society. They havent had the opportunity to create it until today. Although the plan was developed decades ago, Now is the time that the DHARMA initiative was to take effect. From the creation of DHARMA inthe 1800's, the founders have put tremendous amounts of money into the program, money which has been building interest for 200 years. DHARMA has literally trillions of dollars which it is using as part of this initiative. They have technology that is upwards of 30 years ahead of its time. They have created everything get this plan together, including the Island itself, which was created 50+ years ago. They have conducted research on the island, and developed many technologies. One technology is the electro-magnetic shield around the island. This prevents the island from being entered, or seen from space.
What is the Hanso Foundation? The Hanso Foundation is one of many large companies whose Owners and CEO's are members of DHARMA. Alvar Hanso is one of these members, along with the high ranking owners of other companies including GM, Coca Cola. I say these companies because of the Commercials that had tie-ins with Lost. Through these large companies, DHARMA kept their money flowing, so that no one would find it. Alvar hanso is very old, as are some other members of DHARMA. they used the same technology that was used on JOOP the ape to extend their lives to well into their 100's. Hanso is one of the founders of DHARMA, and the Hanso Foundation is just another way to keep the DHARMA money flowing.
Why so elaborate? If DHARMA just released the virus into different countries, there is a chance they would get caught. although the plan would most likely succeed, the people that remained alive would be living in fear, thinking that there is an enemy out there that has killed their loved ones, friends, and changed their entire world. Rather, They will use the Lostees to distribute the virus, this way, it will almost appear as if it was just a pandemic, naturally occuring. People would be forced to carry on their lives, not knowing what really caused this to happen. If the Lostees infect the world, it would be completely untraceable to DHARMA, especially since the virus is time delayed.
Why all the drama on the island? What is happening is similar to a the tricks of a magician. The Others are using Slight of Hand, in other words, they are making the Lostees focus on one thing, while something completely different is happening. The lostees believe the Others are their enemies, kidnapping them, kiling them, making life a living hell for them. All this in an effort to conceal the whole virus thing. When Rousseau and her team made it to the island, an early version of the virus was introduced, and it killed everyone except Rousseau. She was pregnant at the time, so the Others took her baby to study her and figure out why the virus didnt kill her. now the Virus is perfected. Every other strange thing on the island is a result of the testing and research that has been going on over the past few decades.
The Others: they believe themselves to be good, because what they are doing will save the planet from mankind. They are bad, yes, but its all about the greater good. they all strongly believe in the initiative, and they have been vaccinated so the virus wont effect them.
I know this is pretty long, so thanks for taking the time to read. Let me know your opinions and thoughts on this theory...
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(Date Posted:10/16/2006 6:41 PM)
I was just thinking and this may sound stupid but what if the whole seris of Lost is like the Final Destination movies? Wouldn't that be crazy? What if one of the Lostees got on the plane and all of a sudden had a vision of everything that happened and will happen on the island? This could be a possibility couldn't it? I don't know! I know it sounds crazy and probably stupid but it is just a thought!
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(Date Posted:10/16/2006 9:38 PM)
Jmarcroyal-That is quite an elaborate theory. It definately sounds possible.
I too have had the thought that maybe it was a plan formed decades ago, but could not have said it as well as you. DiVinci Code has a similar organization that formed long, long ago and that organization (The Brotherhood of the Sion--something like that) had to wait for a very long time for the purpose of their work to come to fruition. Right?
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(Date Posted:10/17/2006 12:10 AM)
wow. Oddly enough I am going to beleive this theory until proven otherwise. I may even pass it off as my own. Thanks.
What's up with the ghostly images like Walt and the Horse? Is that the others sending these things as like holograms for some reason.
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(Date Posted:10/17/2006 12:30 AM)
Well, if my theory is correct, the Others have been doing crazy research on the island for decades, and the crazy things on the island could have something to do with psychic abilities. the horse was seen by both Kate and Sawyer, so it was either real, or it was a collective hallucination. it is also possible that one of the Experiments on the island involved mind control or something along those lines. this could explain why more then one person can see the same thing. There is also the possibility that it was Walt all those times, and he was told to stand there and do his thing. It is also possible that the horse was real, and it was just a coincedence that Kate saw it.
I think the Others have a farm of sorts, it is proved when Ben gives Kate the eggs for breakfast. I dont think eggs are the kind of thing DHARMA could send over in a supply drop, they looked fresh, which would imply they have chickens. also, they had cream for the coffee(im pretty sure), There was also cheese on the grilled cheese and it was fried in butter, which is all dairy, which comes from cows. all this tells me they have a farm, and they probably make fresh vegetables too.
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(Date Posted:10/17/2006 7:30 AM)
Where did you get this thing from? All of this seems like parts and pices manipulate from the Hanso web sight. The virus was in Africa by the way .
1st part of your theory doese not include the Others. If you recall the first episode of season 3. None of the others knew who,what,why the flight 815 went down. In fact Ben said go, You two find out as much information you can. Why would he even bother sending the spies in if he already knew what the losties have to offer.As far as Dharm it's self. maybe, maybe not. We don't know anything about Dharma . Just it's facilites on the island and only five of them six if you want to include the fake village.It's quite obvious why Dharma chose the Losties. Each has a special talant unlike anyone else in the world. I can name all of them. But it would take me all night.
2. There isn't any virus. Because Kelvin even went outside unprotected and he wasn't even on the flight as well as the whole Others. The sickness was just part of the Psycoilogy game the Others are playing with our Losties. Not only that. everyone on th eisland has went months without Proper medician and ther eisn't even 100 people. Ther eis 40 something. If Charlie was amune to teh virus. He wouldn't had to be winged off the drugs all season one. His body would detox within hrs which took weeks.
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(Date Posted:10/17/2006 10:20 AM)
yea, but these people are all immune. Even Kelvin is immune, he worked for DHARMA so he knew what was going on. He just wore the suit to make desmond believe there was a virus, only to get caught without it. now Desmond might not believe there is a virus, but there is. nothing is as it seems!
also, the Others didnt know the exact time the plane would get there, and when it crashed, they wanted the spies to go there and see what exactly the damage was. They wanted to see who died, who was injured, and what the general mood a vibes are for the survivors. Depending on who survived,the ones with the good or bad genes. they would take the ones with the bad genes, including the children, and give them the cure.
They needed the spies to go there because that was the only way to get accurate information
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(Date Posted:10/17/2006 7:13 PM)
There are some very plausible thoughts in your theory. Some of it makes perfect sense. The only thing is.......are you implying that many of the people on the plane were hand selected? After all, if the Others know which ones are genetically desirable, they would have to know all of this through prior extensive research, right? So what about free will???? How would they get all of the desired Lostees on 1 plane to crash on 1 island? I mean, people do have a choice in a free society, and I don't think that even Dharma could manipulate that many people without someone catching on. I think that the whole reason that the Lostees ended up on the plane was by their own choice combined with Fate/God, or some higher power. Each Lostee embarked on a spiritual journey/awakening when they got on that plane & each one is dealing with his/her own spirituality, beliefs, & demons. So as to why the Lostees ended up on the plane, I'm sticking with "Fate" until something happens to make me believe otherwise. As far as how the Others seem to know everything about the people on Flight 815, I'm guessing that they have connections through the airline, got the flight manifest, & then their research team gathered the information about all of them. Simple as that.
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(Date Posted:10/17/2006 10:49 PM)
I couldn't have said it better Sprola.
To Jamrcroyal-Anwser this: If Charlie was amune to the virus. He wouldn't had to be winged off the drugs all season one. His body would detox within hrs which took weeks.
I think the granddaddy jewl of them all is Locke. the Others I belive even can't take on Locke's true inner energy. Though I do give Ben cridit. He was doing a good job manipulating Locke. Now Locke knows his calling is true and has renewed faith. I think Locke is now more prepaired than he ever was. He's sorta like the Neo of the matrix. The one that can not be manipulated. Neo use to be until Morphus showed him the truth. Now Locke has been shown the truth and ther eis no shying him away again I think.
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(Date Posted:10/17/2006 11:01 PM)
That is a good possibility. another along the same lines is that perhaps certain blood types are more prone to this genetic disposition. is this were the case, im sure that would be somewhere on the Lostees records. the reason it was that plane was because of the unusually high amount of passengers with the certain blood type.
Remember Jack slmost couldnt get on the flight, because he couldnt take his fathers body? well, through enough arguing, they got him on the flight. This tells me that either Jack had the good Genes, so the airline bent the rules to get him on. another possibility was that he didnt have the good genes, but he was persistant, so they let him on, and thats why he was taken, along with Sawyer and Kate. they werent meant to be on that flight, they didnt have the gene. They were taken so they could be given the immunity. all this forced work and living in cages is just to distract them from the fact that they were immunized, and they will soon be released(although they will think they have escaped)
one more possibility is that the research conducted on the island included the study of psychic abilities. if these abilities could be honed, and heightened, it would be possible to influence the mind of other people, leaving only the illusion of free will.
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(Date Posted:10/17/2006 11:07 PM)
Good points. I think Locke will be "reborn" so to speak. he will be the Neo of this story. I think he will have a much bigger role in the series, especially in february when the series resumes.
About charlie, well, just because these people have this genetic immunity to viruses, it doesnt mean that drugs wouldnt effect him like anyone else. A lot of the addiction is mental, a lot of it is physical. Charlie was using heroin for a while in the first season, and the effects of that drug are horrible. It messed with his mind, it hurt him physically and emotionally. Charlie couldnt control it.
All im saying is that Charlie was affected by heroin like any other addict, but he wouldnt catch aids from sharing a needle!
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(Date Posted:10/18/2006 5:53 AM)
This most recent episode was very interesting. Desmond is becoming a prophet of sorts. he saw the future before it happened. I believe this is partly because he has been on the island for so long. the island gave him this ability, and it will prove quite important in later episodes. to tie this develop into my theory, I believe he will become the saviour of the world. He will soon see what the others are planning, and what will happen if the plan goes through.
My theory discribed the virus, the plan to kill off billions in an attempt to make a utopian society. This is DHARMA's plan, that is what will happen if it is not stopped. As cool as it would be to see, I am pretty sure the Lostees will be the ones that stop them. It makes for better TV. Perhaps at the end of this season, Desmond will have a dream, he will dream of rescue, homecoming, and he will see what the virus does to the world. He will see the future, but at that time, he will finally realize that what he sees will happen. This will leave us hanging over the summer for next season, when the Lostees begin their war against the Others. There will be lots of action and violence next season, People will die, people will change sides, The lostees will get rescued.
This will lead to season 5, where they are on their voyage home, and when they arrive. it will be totally different, but the virus will still somehow escape the island aswell.
ofcourse that is all theory, but it would be cool if they find out abou the virus, deal with that and get home, only for something worse to happen!
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(Date Posted:10/18/2006 7:40 AM)
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Well, if my theory is correct, the Others have been doing crazy research on the island for decades, and the crazy things on the island could have something to do with psychic abilities. the horse was seen by both Kate and Sawyer, so it was either real, or it was a collective hallucination. it is also possible that one of the Experiments on the island involved mind control or something along those lines. this could explain why more then one person can see the same thing. There is also the possibility that it was Walt all those times, and he was told to stand there and do his thing. It is also possible that the horse was real, and it was just a coincedence that Kate saw it.I think the Others have a farm of sorts, it is proved when Ben gives Kate the eggs for breakfast. I dont think eggs are the kind of thing DHARMA could send over in a supply drop, they looked f
Juliet told Jack that he was drugged and he would start hallucinating.
Anything could be in the food supply.
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(Date Posted:10/18/2006 8:02 AM)
I think jmarcroyal is right about Desmond seeing a horrible future event. He will then have to deal with his new "gift" in a productive way, or it will drive him to insanity.
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(Date Posted:10/18/2006 1:17 PM)
this theory is so far off its not even funny. theories have to involve taking into account every single thing that has happened onto the show and explaining them. not taking a couple things that happened and developing a whole fantasy around that. work on something new
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(Date Posted:10/19/2006 3:15 AM)
ok, i can almost prove this theory of mine. read the theory, and then watch the hanso exposed video. i watched it recently, and there is so much proof in that video. The video says they want to save mankind from itself. it mentions the problems of poverty, famine, all that. watch this video and you will have a much better reason to believe me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVSuoSjcXmg
I want everyone that reads this post to watch this tape, and then let me know what you think, there are many parallels to my theory
also, Juliette told Jack that he was drugged. that doesnt mean anything. To be drugged does not mean he was given hallucinagins, or something else. it could mean he was given medicine. medicine is another for drugs. Juliette and the others want to tell the lostees something, even if they just bend the truth. if the others tell them one small, non important thing, the lostees might stop asking questions. just watch the video, tht is my evidence
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(Date Posted:10/19/2006 5:58 AM)
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ok, i can almost prove this theory of mine. read the theory, and then watch the hanso exposed video. i watched it recently, and there is so much proof in that video. The video says they want to save mankind from itself. it mentions the problems of poverty, famine, all that. watch this video and you will have a much better reason to believe me.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVSuoSjcXmgI want everyone that reads this post to watch this tape, and then let me know what you think, there are many parallels to my theoryalso, Juliette told Jack that he was drugged. that doesnt mean anything. To be drugged does not mean he was given hallucinagins, or something else. it could mean he was given medicine. medicine is another for drugs. Juliette and the oth
you have to remember that the entire Hanso thing was part of the lost experience game this summer. They said that this game wasn't going to directly have anything to do with the show. It was just an extra little thing that they did to get more advertising (sprite-jeep-etc.) So this Hanso video isn't directly linked to the show lost
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(Date Posted:10/19/2006 6:06 AM)
it is connected, it explains a lot, just not how it is connected to the lostees. kind of like the animatrix, was definately part of the series, just nothing huge revealed in it.
This video isnt a fan produced video, it is produced by lost, and it was spread over the internet in a very creative way. it kept us occupied before season 3 began. All the information on that tape was as real as any DHARMA video in the show.
Lost isnt just the tv show. even after the first season it was more then that. there are all sorts of websites, from Hanso, DHARMA , even the Oceanic-Air website, and the Apollo candy bar site. all these sites were part of the overall lost experience. it adds a entirely new level to the series. none of these sites are fansites, they are all created for the series.
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(Date Posted:10/19/2006 7:19 AM)
You don't have to explain your self to these people. It's your thoughts man. Don't let them get in your way. I think it's pretty good what you have. I just don't see a connection. Doesn't mean your wrong. Pluss the ones who do down you. I haven't seen them say to much of anything usful anyhow. Just poking fun at people. Come back when you have something to offer. Other wise let people dream as they want.
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(Date Posted:10/19/2006 8:45 AM)
I almost gave up my own theory until I read sprola's comment. I agree with sprola and now I will still stick with my own theory.
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(Date Posted:10/19/2006 12:24 PM)
just a point on the free will. I think everyone has freewill, and it will be a part of saviour of the planet. The lostees werent using their freewill when they were on the path leading to the plane. that was all controlled through some unknown method. possibly psychic mind control, possibly some unknown technology developed by the tremendous resources of DHARMA. as i said earlier, DHARMA is very old, and its pockets are very deep. they have been conducting research for decades, and with their money and resources, along with the best minds on the planet, they most likely have technologies decades ahead of its time.
Oh yea, watch the hanso exposed video, any lost fan should see it, it really is a good an interesting video!!
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(Date Posted:10/23/2006 2:38 AM)
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it is connected, it explains a lot, just not how it is connected to the lostees. kind of like the animatrix, was definately part of the series, just nothing huge revealed in it.This video isnt a fan produced video, it is produced by lost, and it was spread over the internet in a very creative way. it kept us occupied before season 3 began. All the information on that tape was as real as any DHARMA video in the show.Lost isnt just the tv show. even after the first season it was more then that. there are all sorts of websites, from Hanso, DHARMA , even the Oceanic-Air website, and the Apollo candy bar site. all these sites were part of the overall lost experience. it adds a entirely new level to the series. none of these sites are fansites, they are all created for the series.
The problem with all these theories is most of them are comprised with "what if"s instead of facts or even hints from the show. There is nothing to suggest things like DHARMA was created in the 1800's, there is just as much evidence that it was created by super smart dogs, or by underwater sea creatures trying to take over the planet for all we know they chose all these good looking people so the could create an ultra-beautiful world. It may be fun to come up with all these thing in your head, but until they say anything to back it up, in this case anything that possibly refrences to the 1800s, they have no basis.
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(Date Posted:10/24/2006 6:27 AM)
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Reply to : jmarcroyalok, i can almost prove this theory of mine. read the theory, and then watch the hanso exposed video. i watched it recently, and there is so much proof in that video. The video says they want to save mankind from itself. it mentions the problems of poverty, famine, all that. watch this video and you will have a much better reason to believe me.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVSuoSjcXmgI want everyone that reads this post to watch this tape, and then let me know what you think, there are many parallels to my theoryalso, Juliette told Jack that he was drugged. that doesnt mean anything. To be drugged does not mean he was given hallucinagins, or something else. it could mean he was given medicine. medicine is another for drugs. Juliette and the othyou have
This theory brought to mind; during last weeks episode there was an American Express commercial. If anyone has this taped or on tivo check it out and tell me what you think about it. Its very odd and it is of a young woman walking and narrorating the commercial. She states several odd things/ example: 'My memory was erased when I was 28'. I am going to rewatch this myself but it caught my attention.
I have read from this site about commercials being made to give out clues to the show or just to play mind games with us. It was theorized that John Locke is the silloutte in the i-pod commercial.
If these commercials are such things as clues or playing with our minds I have to give my kudos to the people that are making this the most amazing celluloid vs. video gaming. What an amazing concept to create the largest Treasure Hunt type game by using the T.V. and the internet.
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(Date Posted:10/24/2006 7:57 PM)
I am not ready to embrace any part of this show as 'reality' . As I watch the show online I didn't see any of the commercials, but it is a great tie-in to include clues and such into 'our reality'. These writers/producers are geniuses!!
Does anyone have a link that we could check out the commercials if we have missed them?
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(Date Posted:10/24/2006 10:51 PM)
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Reply to : Gavin920Reply to : jmarcroyalok, i can almost prove this theory of mine. read the theory, and then watch the hanso exposed video. i watched it recently, and there is so much proof in that video. The video says they want to save mankind from itself. it mentions the problems of poverty, famine, all that. watch this video and you will have a much better reason to believe me.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVSuoSjcXmgI want everyone that reads this post to watch this tape, and then let me know what you think, there are many parallels to my theoryalso, Juliette told Jack that he was drugged. that doesnt mean anything. To be drugged does not mean he was given hallucinagins, or something else. it could mean he was given medicine. medicine is another for drugs. Juliette and the othyou have
If I responding to the right person and you were not joking that was kate winslet in a real american express comercial talking about all the roles she has played in movies(memory erased in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Jim Carey? Man everyone well not everyone reads to much into the show just sit back and enjoy it stop trying to be the one who figures it out really get a hobby I love lost but man If lost was a person you gyus would be served a restaining order remember the misdirection tactic the Others use the witres are probably using the same thing Not meaning to offend but stop with the super complex guesing and enjoy the greatness of Lost
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(Date Posted:10/25/2006 11:10 AM)
hahahahha that definitely was the commercial he was talking about. and am i correct in assuming that you suggested its possible that this show is pointing to a major event happening in real life? id like to here more. i dont believe it, not in the least. but i would like to hear what exactly pointed you to this/what you think might happen
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