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Little Red Dun
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(Date Posted:01/14/2007 9:10 PM)
Wonderful story and a truly beautiful mare.
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KigerCadence
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(Date Posted:01/18/2007 7:49 PM)
Such a wonderful story Betty!
We have also noticed that the kiger has a particular bond with humans even if they are not tame! Given enough time they will include you into their "herd". I always say the difference between a kiger and other horses is that the common horse will greet you and say "where is my food?" and the kiger will greet with "How are you?"
Janet
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lindad
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(Date Posted:01/18/2007 9:15 PM)
Betty,
This is such a sweet story, and one that will go on and on. Undoubtedly, Carinosa will remain a very special horse. These special events make up for the hard times that break our hearts, don't they! I hope somewhere, sometime that vet has a chance to see just how wrong the he was! He missed out on a real blessing. Just goes to show how important what we think about a thing is. Keep us posted as Carinosa is probably going to keep proving just how special she is! She is in the right place to do it, with you in her life providing the opportunities.
Linda D
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cindy966
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(Date Posted:01/19/2007 5:26 PM)
Thanks for the nice story with the happy ending!! Very enjoyable.
Janet, maybe it's because my horse is only 3/4 Kiger, but the last thing he would think is "how are you?" Usually it is, do you have any food, or can I lead today, or let's do something. My welfare never crosses his mind. My non-Kiger mustang is even more concerned about her welfare than mine. If I were to slip and fall she would try to run far away so that whatever happened to me wouldn't happen to her. One time I was riding behind another horse that fell on some rocks in front of us. Her reaction was to try to turn around and get out of there. Other more domestic horses I've seen in this situation usually just stand there. Her self-preservation is strong. I don't know about my Kiger in this situation yet. Probably he'd be curious but I don't think "are you OK?" would ever enter his mind. Good for you if your horses are like that!
I love the photo of Betty and the filly. Again, this is not like my Kiger at all. If I were to love on him and hug him around the neck he would pretty quickly start to get dominant and pushy and nippy. I've had people work with me with this horse and all agree that he needs rules and boundaries. Everybody loves him. He's a wonderful, intelligent horse that will be a terrific trail companion or whatever. But he's not like that filly. Kiger doesn't always mean gentle and affectionate. If I acted like that with him it would ruin him.
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KigerCadence
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(Date Posted:01/19/2007 9:25 PM)
Reply to : cindy966
Thanks for the nice story with the happy ending!! Very enjoyable.Janet, maybe it's because my horse is only 3/4 Kiger, but the last thing he would think is "how are you?" Usually it is, do you have any food, or can I lead today, or let's do something. My welfare never crosses his mind. My non-Kiger mustang is even more concerned about her welfare than mine. If I were to slip and fall she would try to run far away so that whatever happened to me wouldn't happen to her. One time I was riding behind another horse that fell on some rocks in front of us. Her reaction was to try to turn around and get out of there. Other more domestic horses I've seen in this situation usually just stand there. Her self-preservation is strong. I don't know about my Kiger in this situation yet. Probably he'd be curious
Hey Cindy
Let me tell you about an experience I had several years ago. We had just bought a group of mares that were not halter broken, Broodmares only, pastured with minimal human contact. (they are all halter broken now and in fact we we load them up with their babies to go to the grocery store and post office to start the foals off right).
Jillian was 4 hours away at college, and one of the mares foaled, I treated the navel, every thing looked ok, he nursed (the mare is a prolific milker} Next morning he was down. almost comotose.
I took the wheelbarrow out to the pasture, loaded the limp foal in it, and wheeled it into the barn, this mare had never been in a building before in her life, she followed her foal, I backed the horsetrailer (three horse slant} up the the barn,wheeled the foal into the trailer and mom hopped in and I shut the door.
It was a Saturday. The large animal vet on call was the owner of the vet hospital, all but retired, he covers weekends sometimes, He opened up the trailer gate and and never closed it until I was ready to return home. He held that baby in his lap, collected blood samples, started an IV for fluids, all with the mare hanging her head over his shoulder to watch what he did to her baby. I did not have a camera but the scene is ingrained in my brain forever. This kiger mare trusted a stranger to help her precious baby, if a younger vet had demanded I take the mare and foal inside or even just the foal all hell would have broken loose.
We tested for adequate cholostrum levels(they were ok). The foal was given gentamicin and sent home with IV fluids and antibiotics.
The mare remained calm all during treatments and handling. she was in an isolation pen apart from her lifelong herdmates, and accepted this calmly and quietly. I never feared for my safety, she just kept her nose to her baby and watched every thing I did, I had to treat him with antibiotics IV every 4 hours.
Her baby died the next day. He was a dun stud colt with incredible markings, he had a ventral stripe. (a dorsal-like line on his belly, from chin to tail, only the second we have had.
The mare has since produced healthy foals. she is the best to allow us to treat navels and inspect foals.
And I would say she has an incredible bond with humans!
Janet
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cindy966
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(Date Posted:01/20/2007 5:46 PM)
Janet,
Thanks for this story. I was going to say wonderful but the baby dying was not wonderful. I can see some of this in my colt too. I think he could have a sense of when people would be trying to help and trust. He is often less cocky and pushy in new environments as then he is less secure and he looks to me. I had a real positive experience like that the last time I took him somewhere new and there were other horses there. My mare I mentioned that has big-time self preservation surprised me at the hospital once. She was always wary of crinkling things-bags, tarps etc. She would shy from them when first seeing them, then would control herself but was never comfortable. One time she choked and they wanted her to breath into a bag after the incident was over to check her lungs. They took a plastic grocery store bag and put it over her nose. It crinkled in and out everytime she would breath. My friend and I were shocked that she stood quietly the entire time and inside a building as well.
Thanks again for the story! Nice to hear about that vet too.
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Bromby
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(Date Posted:02/24/2007 7:16 AM)
Good evening,
I'm not a real touchy-feely kind of guy but I got to tell you that sometimes, well, sometimes the emotions flow. Bromby, a yearling grulla stud colt I adopted from the 2003 BLM on-line auction was a wild man when I brought him home, so much so that I was unable to lay a hand upon him for almost two months. Once he was convinced that I was not out to eat him he warmed up to me very quickly.
Bromby, the Kiger stud colt proved himself to be remarkably perceptive to my moods. One day I went out to the barn for some routine ground work but my heart was just not in it. Issues at work were so preoccupying that I lost my concentration - by all rights I should have just packed it up and gone home or muck a stall or two. Instead, I sat down cross-legged in the middle of the round pen and soaked in some early Spring time warmth. I became so lost in my thoughts that I did not realize that the colt pulled up next to me and placed his muzzle in the crook of my neck and nickered - as if to comfort me. If this was not enough, the next thing I knew he actually laid down close enough next to me and again, nuzzled me. Yup, you guessed it - not only did this bring a tear to the eye of this hardened "male-type non touchy-feely sort of guy" but my mindset changed immediately - I left my work-related issues where they belonged - at work and we went on to have a great training session.
Indeed, my Bromby has become my therapist besides my best equine friend.
Thanks for listening.
Steve BennText to be set font.
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Ridgie
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(Date Posted:02/24/2007 4:29 PM)
Wow Steve! What a touching story! I'm so glad you shared. I'd love it if my horse laid down next to me! You are one lucky guy!
Nicole
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cindy966
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(Date Posted:02/24/2007 5:30 PM)
Wow Steve, what an incredibly neat story. Thanks for posting!!! My colt is fine with me sitting by him when he is laying down but I can't imagine he'd do what yours did. If I get lower than my colt his inclination is to think I'm being submissive. When I read this, to me it really sounds like you've got a terrific relationship with the horse being that he is respectful and trustful of you even when your mood is not one of being strong. Very cool.
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Chiger
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(Date Posted:02/26/2007 5:41 AM)
I am impressed!!!!!!!
Just this morning I was singing the praises of our Chiger. I was told to get him cut, as Stallions are dangerous. I couldn't get her to understand just how gentle and loving he is. She said he will change. Is that true???? Will he change all of a sudden? I like the sweet boy he is.
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(Date Posted:02/26/2007 6:26 AM)
Reply to : Chiger
I am impressed!!!!!!!Just this morning I was singing the praises of our Chiger. I was told to get him cut, as Stallions are dangerous. I couldn't get her to understand just how gentle and loving he is. She said he will change. Is that true???? Will he change all of a sudden? I like the sweet boy he is.
Chiger, Kevin Sink rides and shows his Stallion, Dino, regularly and wins. He is well behaved and a joy to watch. Kigers do respond to training and are well behaved but like any horse you have to remember they are horses. Love and enjoy your boy. My boy is going off to the tainer soon to become my riding stallion. Watch for us next year, I have to go to Alaska this year.
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Chiger
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(Date Posted:02/28/2007 9:02 AM)
like any horse you have to remember they are horses
Well NB, there's my problem. Chiger is SO different from any other horse I have handled before. His mannerisms, curiosity, knowledge and genuine respect for me. He surprises me daily with the new things he has picked up on, how he knows what I need to do out in the pasture and honestly tries to help (no, not just pester and demand attention, real help), and how he studies me so that he can better relate. He is a kind, gentle and smart human brain trapped inside a horse's body, just trying to figure out how to make the two worlds work together.
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(Date Posted:08/03/2007 1:37 AM)
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Hi,my parents bought me a 1 year old filly kiger mustang.She was half wild and she didnt like me very much.she didnt like ppl touching her or catching her especially catching her.She would run for hours and still even when she was tired she still ran.She was at a kiger mustang ranch cuz we had 2 fix are fence in the mini pasture.So the ppl at the ranch would catch her for me.I felt bad cuz they usually had 2 run in the hot sun. After they catch her i usually worked with her and she would ram into me and strike at me bite me,but i didnt care cuz i knew i had 2 gain her trust.I also knew it would take time and patience and trust.So i came as much as i could.And i worked with her.So 2 my surprise she started respecting me and listening.[she didnt li
my kiger is my treasure, when I decided to get a kiger I let my mom know and she researched the breed and was so excited for me and was waiting for her to get here to Az from Bend OR, I bought her from Rick, well my mom passed away and did not get to see her,and Stormy let me hug her her mane dried many a tear, and she listenend to me talk about my mom, we have a special bond and she is my treasure, I have other horse's and I love the but this horse is special to me and to my mom. but my most precious treasures are my family.... I have 4 kids and 4 grandkids and 2 daughter-in-laws.
this breed is above all others to me....
ROCK'N M KIGER RANCH
(SNOWFLAKE, AZ SOON TO BE HERE WE BOUGHT 9 ACRES)
NOLA
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Kiger134
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(Date Posted:08/04/2007 8:23 AM)
Im so sorry. Shes watching over u in hevan especially wen u sleep
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nrly_nola
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(Date Posted:08/04/2007 9:06 AM)
Reply to : Kiger134
Im so sorry.Shes watching over u in hevanespecially wen u sleep
thank you , I am so thankful for my religion, and the knoweledge that I will see her agian and that we are an eternal family, and who know's maybe she and I will have our Kigers in heaven on a nice ranch, nice thought isnt it, but I do believe she is watching over me, and that we will be a family forever.
Rock'n M Kiger Ranch
nola
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Kiger134
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(Date Posted:08/04/2007 9:11 AM)
Thats sweet Hey i know this is a bad time 2 ask but uhhh wats ur e-mail address? <ok that smileys creepy!!!!!
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nrly_nola
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(Date Posted:08/04/2007 7:53 PM)
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Thats sweetHey i know this is a bad time 2 ask but uhhh wats ur e-mail address?<ok that smileys creepy!!!!!
nrly@BillyBob.com
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Kiger134
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(Date Posted:08/05/2007 2:15 AM)
thx for telling me P.S.I love Kiger Mustangs mostly my horse senita!!!!*he he*
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she didnt like ppl touching her or catching her especially catching her.She would run for hours and still even when she was tired she still ran.She was at a kiger mustang ranch cuz we had 2 fix are fence in the mini pasture
