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JoanMRK
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(Date Posted:04/23/2006 11:01 PM)

Here's our first foal of the season (born this morning), a bay half Kiger full mustang fillyby the Sundance Kid and out of a twin peaks HMA mare, Huyana. Huyana's name means "rain falling" and the girl who now owns "Rainy" liked the name Dakota so I helped her put the sire and dam names together to create Dakota Raindance. It fits her nicely.

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kigercutie91
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(Date Posted:04/23/2006 11:36 PM)

awwwwwwwwwww what a cutie!!!!!

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(Date Posted:04/24/2006 7:54 AM)

Too cute! I like how deep his chest is and what a nice angle his shoulder has. Its always amazing to me that even a good sized nice mare like the dam has room for all those long legs. We need more pictures at a week so we can see him all "fluffed out".

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JoanMRK
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(Date Posted:04/24/2006 6:48 PM)

Thanks Christi and Dianne, she really is quite leggy and I'm amazed too.  She is all her dam, I really don't see Sunnie in her yet but I will be watching her especially at a week (and will definitely get some updated pictures).  That's when they look their best to me.

Simon's first reaction to her was that "Henna had a thoroughbred!"  I laughed, but he's right and the Twin Peaks HMA is made up of the cavalry mount descendents with a mix of spanish mustangs.  I found a very interesting article on the herd a few days ago and it says that they carry the same markers as the Kigers.  The article is below (I took out all the pictures):

The Twin Peaks HMA is located approx. 25 miles northeast of Susanville, CA. Highway 395 borders the HMA to the west. The herd area contains some 798,000 acres in Lassen County, California and Washoe County, Nevada.

The HMA is managed as 5 separate home ranges which provide a home for both wild horses and burros. (and yes, they do occasionally inter-breed, creating wild mules!) Appropriate management levels have been established for this herd management area. These levels call for managing between 448-760 horses and 47-79 burros.

Some of the original wild horses in this area descended from Spanish stock. Descendants of US Army Cavalry remounts prior to and during World War I and historic ranch stock consisting of both draft and light breeds make up most of the herd today. The wild burros likely originated from historic sheep operations in the area.

The Skedaddle Mountains area within Twin Peaks HMA also produces WILD MULES!!!

MORE: TWIN PEAKS HMA PICTURE PAGE

Dr. Gus Cothran, noted equine geneticist, analyzed 25 blood samples from Twin Peaks animals. I have done my best to give a synopsis of this report below.

Dr. Gus Cothran's Genetic Analysis of the Twin Peaks Herd:

(Summarized by Nancy - my apologies if I didn't get it right. If you want the "real deal" ask your BLM agent for a copy)

The two main areas he looked at were:

1. Herd health from a genetics standpoint, and

2. Clues to the herd's history. 

1. GENETIC HEALTH & DIVERSITY:

Looking at herd health, one of the first things to look at is genetic diversity - the more variable the genepool, one expects to find greater genetic health (as opposed to inbreeding, which narrows the genepool and can cause doubling up on weak or defective genes) 

He made the quite surprising discovery that the genepool is not very diverse. Normally this means inbreeding, but since Twin Peaks is a huge area with a very large population of wild horses, inbreeding is most unlikely. The more likely possibility is that all the horses are descended from a small (but diverse, in terms of breed represented) "founding population," and have not been infused with "new blood" or outside mixing, for a long time.

This is consistent with known history - that the already-present wild horses - who may have been fewer in number than we usually think, due to "mustanging" or whatever, were mixed with high quality domestic stallions for the Cavalry Remount program, etc.  

Another way a gene pool becomes less diverse is when people develop a new breed - the desirable animals are mated and reproduce, and the undesirable ones tossed out. New blood is not allowed in, and the genepool becomes, well, for lack of a less-highly-charged word, "purified." The animals "breed true,"  meaning they and their offspring have a certain set of recognizable and predictable characteristics that set them apart from other breeds, whether that be color, behavior, movement, conformation, performance, or whatever went into the breeding decisions. 

Obviously, people often mess up and along with the genes they want, they get disasters that they don't want, and they get the classic inbreeding issues associated with pure breeds. 

In the case of the Twin Peaks herd, this isn't happening. They got the concentration of genetic material that one associates with a true breed, but, probably since Mother Nature culls heavily, they don't seem to have the problems that go along with humans developing a breed.  

I should note, about the low diversity: In another of Cothran's studies (Carter Reservoir), he talks about this. When loss of diversity happens quickly (such as through inbreeding or suddenly low population due to disaster or whatever), the herd is in trouble. All the "bad genes" are suddenly doubled up on, and you start to see a lot of weak and defective foals. But when it happens slowly, gently, over a long period of time, as it did with the Carter Reservoir herd and most likely also in the Twin Peaks herd, it simply results in a more uniform, "true breed" kind of thing.

Since Twin Peaks horses are known for their size, beauty, nice temperaments, and fairly recognizable conformational similarities, it seems to me that this is what we have with Twin Peaks. Many  people report that they can pick out the Twin Peaks horses when they go to an adoption or horse show - there is something unique, recognizable, about the Twin Peaks horses. So the Twin Peaks Herd, according to my interpretation, may qualify as a True Breed - Dr. Cothran didn't come out and say it in his report, but the fitting description is there.

Dr. Cothran does not recommend making any introductions of new blood at this time, but notes that he would like to study more samples (as 25 individuals is a small sample size, especially from so large a herd area) and the situation should be monitored carefully over time to catch genetic problems if they arise.

2. ORIGINS:

The breeds most likely to have played a part in the origin of the herd are Iberian, Thoroughbred, Draft, Morgan, and the North American gaited Saddle breeds. (Most of this is typical of the Southeastern Oregon horses that I've read genetic studies on, too, only most of them don't have much, if any, draft)

As for ancestry and history, this is very technical, but the synopsis seemed to indicate that the Twin Peaks herd is similar genetically to other wild herds in the region - a combination of original Old Spanish horses, with more modern domestic stock, and the herd bears closest similarity today to the gaited American saddle horses, the Standardbred carriage horses and Thoroughbreds and Morgans - none of this is surprising.

What was surprising, although he made absolutely no reference to it in this report, was the inclusion of one of the known "Old Spanish" marker known as "D-dek" on the chart of markers identified. When this happened in the Kiger analysis, this was much ballyhooed, proof of "Old Spanish" lineage. But it was not even mentioned in this one, because Old Spanish was not the focus of the report.

There are only four known markers that are absolutely indicative of Iberian (Old Spanish) ancestry. One is the "D-dek" This is the one the Kiger herd has. It is also in the Twin Peaks herd!



TWIN PEAKS MULES
Apparently there has been some question about the origin of Twin Peak's mules, because Dr. Cothran makes a point of mentioning that one of the samples used was from a mule, and that everything about the mule's blood markers is consistent with having originated within Twin Peaks' wild horse and burro herds. In other words, the mules are not domestic runaways or recent introductions.

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Chiger
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(Date Posted:04/25/2006 7:09 AM)

Cute baby.  It always amazes me that those tiny bodies can master all that leg in such a short amount of time.

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DianneC
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(Date Posted:04/25/2006 7:16 AM)

Sorry to call her a him, she just is so big that I thought I knew what I was talking about...always dangerous. LOL I've seen a similar head on some Andalusian and Luisitano foals. This girl will be interesting to follow. Looks like a dorsal in that one shot, you think bay dun? I love it when they come out with those nicely defined butt muscles.

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JoanMRK
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(Date Posted:05/01/2006 12:34 AM)

Here she is at exactly a week old!  Looks just like her mama and is such a nice filly!  We're proud of this one...

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cindy966
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(Date Posted:05/01/2006 4:52 AM)

She has an athletic appearance, doesn't she?  Very cute. I also like the oak leaf on mama.

I finally got a chance to read that information on the Twin Peaks herd.  Very interesting.  It doesn't seem like low genetic diversity would create adverse problems in wild herds, like he said.  The herd just wouldn't last, I would think.  The mules were interesting as well.

 

kigercutie91
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(Date Posted:05/01/2006 5:25 AM)

wow what a nice filly!

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"A person can get into a car and see what MAN has made, but one must be put on a horse and see what GOD has made"
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JoanMRK
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(Date Posted:05/04/2006 5:17 AM)

Just had to share a couple more that I shot this evening -- this girl is something special!

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JoanMRK
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(Date Posted:05/15/2006 12:45 AM)

Here's a new one of Miss Rainy at two weeks old.  She's got quite a build.

As it turns out Rainy will be for sale after all -- the lady that is buying her dam has had some unfortunate circumstances and isn't able to have two horses right now and her niece was given an older Mustang gelding, so I think I'll post this little lady in the sale corral.  Oh well, someone will have one heck of a mare!

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