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(Date Posted:01/14/2007 9:37 AM)

Date Posted:12/31/2006 3:48 PMThe 2 year old filly in my avatar holds a very special place in my heart. She has several nick names: sweet pea, doll face, little bits (although she has outgown that one!) Her registered name is Carinosa Con Dulzura (affectionate with sweetness). Her story is long but worth reading. She was born premature out of a mare from the wild, a Riddle mountain mare. This was during the winter and we had just moved to this ranch which was NOT set up for horses. We manged to makeshift a few pens here and there for some wild Kigers that we had adopted the previous October. She was ice cold, wet, barely breathing, and almost stiff. The mare wasVERY wild, not friendly nor happy about living in captivity. When I entered her pen she seemed to understand I was there to help and allowed me to pick up her foal and carry her out of the pen . She never came at me but styaed closeand watched. The foal was very tiny, and I put her in my dogs knit blanket. I massaged her, moved her joints around, and held her until the vet arrived, about 5 hours later, trying to keep some kind of life in her. It was explained on the phone to the vets office that the mare was NOT approachable and that we wanted some colostrum milk for the foal as she was too weak to stand. This vet was the biggest jerk and took one look at the foal and said that she probably would not survive since she was so small and that it was only a Mustang so I should just put her down. Well, if looks could kill, he would have died right there in our barn!Realizing that he would never change my mind, he said that we would have to milk the mare, which we told him would be near impossible. He insisted, so we got her in a chute. The chute was very icy,the mareslipped and ruptured due to just having a foal and started bleeding very badly. With this, he started to pack up and said he did not want anything to do with the mare. Then he said that we should have just taken the foal down to the clinic where they have frozen colostrum. He also stated that he was now off duty. I told him he could at least call down to the clinic and tell them that we were on our way. My husband loaded the foal into the back seat of his truck, turned the heater on to high to try and warm the foal up and drove to the clinic. The vet on duty there was awesome! He put a tube down into her belly and fed her the milk. He thought that she stood a good chance of making it, as long as the mare would accept her after being gone for so long. My husband was driving home with the foal in the back seat and suddenly she came to life and kept trying to climb over the seat and out the window! (that is a another whole story!) Back home and into the pen the mare immediately accepted her foal. Carinosa has caught up with the other 2 two year olds that we have so she was not stunted in the least. I knew I was keeping her after that first day, she is very special to me. And extremely intelligent! I was halter breaking some yearlings last year that we sold and she barged into the round pen when I was letting them in. I had the halter in my hand and she came over and nudged my hand so I reached out and put the halter on her and she just led immediately. The same has been for everything we have taught her. My grandson (9 years old) put a saddle on her last fall and got up in it and she just did not care. She is so easy going and willing. She also is very loving and follows me everywhere, comes when you call her, just a doll! Next year she shall be my riding horse! Cant wait, I think we will make an excellent pair! At least the story has a happy ending! Hope you all enjoyed.Maythe new year bring many happy trails! and hope to meet many of you on those trails!BettyPS Mom is fine too and has had two more foals since Carinosa.

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(Date Posted:01/14/2007 11:10 PM)

Wonderful story and a truly beautiful mare.

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(Date Posted:01/18/2007 9:49 PM)

Such a wonderful story Betty!

We have also noticed that the kiger has a particular bond with humans even if they are not tame! Given enough time they will include you into their "herd". I always say the difference between a kiger and other horses is that the common horse will greet you and say "where is my food?" and the kiger will greet with "How are you?"

Janet
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(Date Posted:01/18/2007 11:15 PM)

Betty,

This is such a sweet story, and one that will go on and on. Undoubtedly, Carinosa will remain a very special horse. These special events make up for the hard times that break our hearts, don't they! I hope somewhere, sometime that vet has a chance to see just how wrong the he was! He missed out on a real blessing. Just goes to show how important what we think about a thing is. Keep us posted as Carinosa is probably going to keep proving just how special she is! She is in the right place to do it, with you in her life providing the opportunities.

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(Date Posted:01/19/2007 7:26 PM)

Thanks for the nice story with the happy ending!!  Very enjoyable.

Janet, maybe it's because my horse is only 3/4 Kiger, but the last thing he would think is "how are you?"  Usually it is, do you have any food, or can I lead today, or let's do something.  My welfare never crosses his mind.  My non-Kiger mustang is even more concerned about her welfare than mine.  If I were to slip and fall she would try to run far away so that whatever happened to me wouldn't happen to her.  One time I was riding behind another horse that fell on some rocks in front of us.  Her reaction was to try to turn around and get out of there.  Other more domestic horses I've seen in this situation usually just stand there.  Her self-preservation is strong.  I don't know about my Kiger in this situation yet.  Probably he'd be curious but I don't think "are you OK?" would ever enter his mind.  Good for you if your horses are like that!

I love the photo of Betty and the filly.  Again, this is not like my Kiger at all.  If I were to love on him and hug him around the neck he would pretty quickly start to get dominant and pushy and nippy.  I've had people work with me with this horse and all agree that he needs rules and boundaries.  Everybody loves him.  He's a wonderful, intelligent horse that will be a terrific trail companion or whatever.  But he's not like that filly.  Kiger doesn't always mean gentle and affectionate. If I acted like that with him it would ruin him.

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(Date Posted:01/19/2007 11:25 PM)

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Thanks for the nice story with the happy ending!! Very enjoyable.Janet, maybe it's because my horse is only 3/4 Kiger, but the last thing he would think is "how are you?" Usually it is, do you have any food, or can I lead today, or let's do something. My welfare never crosses his mind. My non-Kiger mustang is even more concerned about her welfare than mine. If I were to slip and fall she would try to run far away so that whatever happened to me wouldn't happen to her. One time I was riding behind another horse that fell on some rocks in front of us. Her reaction was to try to turn around and get out of there. Other more domestic horses I've seen in this situation usually just stand there. Her self-preservation is strong. I don't know about my Kiger in this situation yet. Probably he'd be curious



Hey Cindy

Let me tell you about an experience I had several years ago. We had just bought a group of mares that were not halter broken, Broodmares only, pastured with minimal human contact. (they are all halter broken now and in fact we we load them up with their babies to go to the grocery store and post office to start the foals off right).

Jillian was 4 hours away at college, and one of the mares foaled, I treated the navel, every thing looked ok, he nursed (the mare is a prolific milker} Next morning he was down. almost comotose.

I took the wheelbarrow out to the pasture, loaded the limp foal in it, and wheeled it into the barn, this mare had never been in a building before in her life, she followed her foal, I backed the horsetrailer (three horse slant} up the the barn,wheeled the foal into the trailer and mom hopped in and I shut the door.

It was a Saturday. The large animal vet on call was the owner of the vet hospital, all but retired, he covers weekends sometimes, He opened up the trailer gate and and never closed it until I was ready to return home. He held that baby in his lap, collected blood samples, started an IV for fluids, all with the mare hanging her head over his shoulder to watch what he did to her baby. I did not have a camera but the scene is ingrained in my brain forever. This kiger mare trusted a stranger to help her precious baby, if a younger vet had demanded I take the mare and foal inside or even just the foal all hell would have broken loose.
We tested for adequate cholostrum levels(they were ok). The foal was given gentamicin and sent home with IV fluids and antibiotics.

The mare remained calm all during treatments and handling. she was in an isolation pen apart from her lifelong herdmates, and accepted this calmly and quietly. I never feared for my safety, she just kept her nose to her baby and watched every thing I did, I had to treat him with antibiotics IV every 4 hours.

Her baby died the next day. He was a dun stud colt with incredible markings, he had a ventral stripe. (a dorsal-like line on his belly, from chin to tail, only the second we have had.
The mare has since produced healthy foals. she is the best to allow us to treat navels and inspect foals.

And I would say she has an incredible bond with humans!

Janet
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(Date Posted:01/20/2007 7:46 PM)

Janet,

Thanks for this story.  I was going to say wonderful but the baby dying was not wonderful.  I can see some of this in my colt too.  I think he could have a sense of when people would be trying to help and trust.  He is often less cocky and pushy in new environments as then he is less secure and he looks to me.  I had a real positive experience like that the last time I took him somewhere new and there were other horses there.   My mare I mentioned that has big-time self preservation surprised me at the hospital once.  She was always wary of crinkling things-bags, tarps etc.  She would shy from them when first seeing them, then would control herself but was never comfortable.  One time she choked and they wanted her to breath into a bag after the incident was over to check her lungs.  They took a plastic grocery store bag and put it over her nose.  It crinkled in and out everytime she would breath.  My friend and I were shocked that she stood quietly the entire time and inside a building as well.

Thanks again for the story!  Nice to hear about that vet too.

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