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Title: A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
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(Date Posted:11/02/2011 16:25)

Hello forums member

I am from Munich Germany and would´l like to introduce me here to this nice "Dodge forum" and second special thanks to the forums owner to get the posibillity.

I´am fan of 4x4 vans like the fuel Pinzgauer VOLVO Lapplander ore equal like the RB 44. I´m tight intersted to purchase at the next time each one. And convers it to a camper van with a selve made sandwich wall box on the
back.

Of corse I´d search intensive last time the web, what happend about the goods ore bads expirence of any users of the RB44. A lot of soldiers in some green forums are verry open to tell what happen in the army to use the 4x4 light truck.

The perhaps knowed result was. Trouble about the brake issue (power less) and the hard turn to the left if the driver use the brake pedal closer to the top speed.

Now any member here what happend about the upgrade kits from Reynold Burton about the brake vacuum booster and the leaf stabilisator against the left turn.

This statements of corse are impresion from fare and I hope I´m right here to change detailed technical information about the RB 44.

Best regards from Munich
Tom
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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:11/02/2011 18:08)

Hi Tom , Good to hear your enthusiasm for the RB which as you have learned is loved by some people & hated by others.
I can tell you that I have been running a left hand drive model for a few years now which I bought with 380 miles on it.
I have experienced the pull in braking but only when it has not been used regularly & after a short time this disappears (on mine) as the front drums bed in. Mine was  already fitted with the restraining links to stop axle movement before I bought it, All I can say is that if a yearly check & adjustment is carried out on the brakes I dont have any problems. I do not drive it
 often so It has  only covered 23,000 miles.  Good luck & keep in touch !     Regards  John
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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:11/02/2011 18:25)

hello tom and welcome to the forum.
my name is clive my truck is bob hope this helps.
we are of corse all quite mad.
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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:11/02/2011 18:40)

 Hello and welcome, I don't actually have an RB44 myslf but have driven and worked on them and found that they are a mixed bunch, there were 846 made for the UK MOD and all were subject to modifications to the suspension and breaking BUT it is still a very bad set up in my opinion, the front brakes are the same as the 7500kgs dodge 50 series (4x13 inch drum air over hydraulic brakes) but are only vacuum assisted, the rear brakes are based on the 3500kgs 50 series vehicles so not good enough.
I have seen RB44's with different front brake cylinders and shoes then specified in the workshp manual and seem to be a bit of a odd lot, none seem to be the same, some have been modified or had different parts fitted BUT I also know of RB44's that are very good condition, have decent brakes and work hard, two members on this forum have very good examples.

The one i was driving daily for a few months had a stretched chassis and wood chipper and box fitted with uprated to 7500kgs suspension, the brakes were a nightmare but otherwise it was a beast.


Otherwise they are well built, solid vehicles, rust on the cab can be a problem like with many vehicles but with a perkins phaser 110 turbo engine and a spicer 290-t5 gearbox, hi / low, diff lock etc they will just keep going.

Johns


H's RB with living box


I think they are the ones who can give more info on them though, there is this info on the main site http://www.dodge50.co.uk/rb44-story-1.html if you haven't seen it already.


there is another version, the NON MOD dodge 50 4x4, either S66 or S75, better brakes and steering and axles too

This is a nice single cab S75 (7500kgs) 4x4


Syze's is a nice crewcab S75 example







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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:11/02/2011 18:45)

And I see while i was doing all that you two got in first.
And Clive is right, we is as mad as  Bob


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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:13/02/2011 10:20)

welcome

nice to here of somebody else who is on the continent,

before you buy any 50 series vehicle you must sort out a pipe and some slippers - its a legal thing to have before you make a purchase.

mike


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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:13/02/2011 12:11)

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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:13/02/2011 14:04)

Hello again

Many thanks of kindly welcome here.

Thanks John to tell me your own special expirences and the another mates too.

Of corse I prefere one of the rare LHD versions ;-)) So I have to ask next time Witham are stocked LHD at first. I think the quantity of LHD´s was at the MOD low. I´f Witham stocked a LHD could be the price is as lower as standard.

If not perhaps I could change with a RHD owner the whole parts to converse in LHD (lot of work shop job). I saw the single leaf stabilisator kit at GB-ebay. Some sticks and a lot of big washers.

 

No body knows here the RB44. But amazing I found at a German Landy forum a RB owner he live in Munich too. But he didn´t anwer my e-mail inquiry.

 

The bed in effect of the drums. May be are a bit of rust/dirt at the drum contact surface.

But I´d read the soldiers reports they had the whole time a brake fading of thrill.

At first they have check the pressure gauge of the vacuum system. If the whole system is proof are the contact pressuring of the shoes are low. If push the driver quickly again the pedal and get now brake power are the shoes under the limit. (I now the nice job to adjust the distance by hand.)

But I don’t beleve the MOD work shops make in the past a bad service job. In the RB case they now security at first. So Greg tell me here they change in camon with Reynold Burton the slaves and brake booster and the shoes like the wind the leafs.

 

Anyway I have to check this if I purchase the vehicle.

Here in Germany we have a good retail service of GIRLNG and if it´s mounted Landy III/109 ore FWC 101 brake parts we have a local purchase posibility too. My absolute hit are to converse in a front  disk brake system like camper “dady” here in the Forum.  Corse RB´s have another axels.

Some Landy international equipment dealers offer disc conversion kits for typ 109/III. But the calippers need more pressure as shoes but to off road use one perfect solution.

 

Nows anybody wich typ of danas ore salsburys are in the RB´s.

 

By the way. If I now wich typ of axels are in I could start a research it´s possible to install a

100% diff lock at the rear axle. May could fit a ARB lock ecet. and free wheel front hub from ARB too.

 

Sorry lot of stuff at first. But this is my first possibility to share my mind to purchase this nice light truck with wich compromises.

 

Sahara friend here. Cross the finger starts soon a peace full time and a democratic process in the countries of maghreb. (north afrika)

 

Kind regards to all

Tom

PS: Greg my web cost support in now on the way by paypal from a friend of mine

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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:13/02/2011 14:16)

He da Mike

Thanks of welcome too. Yes every body have to sort his mine and his possibilty.
But my own expirence with the C303 ore the fuel Pinz was very special. In case the fuel consum if they in hard off road use. I let me surprice about the perkins.

Regards
Tom
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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:14/02/2011 17:16)

Tom,  The axles are by DANA   (I think made in Venezuela)  Perhaps Dana 60  model ?

If so disc brakes are used on this axle (front)  on some 1990`s  american 1 ton trucks (Ford F350)  However I do not know if it would be possible to convert this. The US model uses open UJ steering /drive shaft similar to the Jeep . Where as  the RB has an enclosed swivel housing like a land rover.  
2, RB has permanent 4x4 & centre diff in transfer box & L.S.D. in rear axle.

So Free Wheel Hubs would not be suitable unless you use some kind of  part time transfer box.     Regards John
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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:16/02/2011 03:20)

Hi John

Your informations helps very well thanks for thad. Please could you explain my the L.S.D. in the rear axle. My intension about a 100% diff lock comes by a RB video on youtube. There stuck a RB on the top of a smal muggle. If the driver will go back. The left rear wheel are spinning free and the vehicle are fixed on the muggle top. A another forum member dicribe in the past his trouble if the truck stucks like above.
I don´t pefere a heavy bumper winch because I´ll registratet the truck less 3.5t total weight.

@Greg
Are you ready now after your hospital visit.

Halthy and regards too
Tom
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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:16/02/2011 05:26)

... O.K. John the search engine explain me what´s L.S.D. in axles. The ounly what I know about this automatik locker system are if get it weak (ore used often) the system are comes power less because the slippery brake disk are burnd of. But for shure better as nothing at the frist time. 

I had a look (by image) at the Landy swifel case. Same basics like the DANA portal axles at the VOLVO 4WD C30X
and steb by steb it comes closer to a possibility to convert the brakes.

Best regards
Tom
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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:21/02/2011 12:39)

Hi John

you are was 100 % right. The diff. case is a D 60. If I could check the axle ID´s we know the rest.

Regards
Tom
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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:21/02/2011 18:06)

I have sent you a private message  Regards John
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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:21/02/2011 22:39)

bet its a rude one lol
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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:22/02/2011 09:06)

Nah ....    I save all those for you clive.     By the way its good to hear that you are so pleased with your recovery truck.   As you say ,  Its pity that they are no longer made.
Thats what happens to all the sensible products.
OK   Back to the thread .    Cheers
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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:22/02/2011 11:07)

ive spoken to hundreds of recovery ops and they all say if they still made um they would buy um sad.
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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:23/02/2011 12:19)

 one of the big killers is all the licence agencies in europe,

most countries there wasnt a 7.5t licence, so you have to employ somebody with a hgv licence, so then why have the drivers going round in little trucks, as it make far more sense just to have hgv's.

i read that the renault mascott (which is the kinda replacement for the 50 series), had its production stopped last year with no plans to replace it.


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Re:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:01/03/2011 14:59)

 hi tom. H here. thats my rb44 in the photo above. i agree with john, spend some time adjusting the breaks every now and then and alll is well. it does pull a bit to the left when the breaks are cold, but this goes after a mile or 2. great trucks.
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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:06/03/2011 07:05)

Hi herrcut

Thanks to give me a confirmation about the front brakes like John too. I see what happend if the truck is real in my hand.  

Regards
Tom
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RE:A new fan of the RB44 from Munich
(Date Posted:09/05/2011 14:54)

hi tom
heres an rb44 for sale in melle, germany for 5000 euros
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?id=138180001&__lp=3&scopeId=VUT75&sortOption.sortBy=searchNetGrossPrice&vehicleCategory=VanUpTo7500&segment=Truck&maxPrice=5001&features=FOUR_WHEEL_DRIVE&negativeFeatures=EXPORT&maxMileage=50000&lang=en&pageNumber=3
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