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In my "personal" thread over there about 'shooting my new .45-70', I asked Larry Gibson for some input on hawg shooting, but I haven't "seen" Larry for a day or two.I know that some of y'all have experience in this business of porcine ventilation, so I'd like to have you read my post about our local Russian boars on the .45-70 thread and see if you come up with any ideas. I also have "normal" rifles like .270, '06, Krag (now THERE'S an idea!) .338 etc etc. Plus .357, .44 and .41 Mag K-frame pistolas....TIA!

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Bruce,

I don't know what you are looking for here.  Everything you mention is capable providing the right slug is used.  Asking for someone to pick from those is like asking me to pick your wife for ya. 

 All I can say is that you spent good money for that 45-70, don't you want to use it?  It won't be worth a darn unless you get some blood on it anyway.   Outside of the Gould, anything you mentioned will work.  And as Jumptrap said, you only need minute of porker to get the job done. 

But having large guns when you are going after tough game and then picking a toy to use is  .......... passing up a good opportunity in my book.  Fill the case and pop one.

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In my "personal" thread over there about 'shooting my new .45-70', I asked Larry Gibson for some input on hawg shooting, but I haven't "seen" Larry for a day or two.I know that some of y'all have experience in this business of porcine ventilation, so I'd like to have you read my post about our local Russian boars on the .45-70 thread and see if you come up with any ideas. I also have "normal" rifles like .270, '06, Krag (now THERE'S an idea!) .338 etc etc. Plus .357, .44 and .41 Mag K-frame pistolas....TIA!

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BruceB,  Never shot a pig, but I have et off of several yummy ones.  Experienced pic hunters to a man say "Shoot a little one!" Are there true Russians in Nevada?  Even in California the hog chasers say that the bloodline of the Hearst herd is pretty well thinned out.  What we have a plague of here is feral pigs, after a generation in the wild they turn into Pigzilla.  Just my (second hand)HO, curmudgeon

BruceB

I put the post on the other thread, sorry.  Had tried posting 3 seperate times but the post was to long and kept getting rejected.  It is a long story and I finally broke it up.  Hope you enjoy.

Larry Gibson

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Bass Ackward, why do you think a Gould wouldn't work on a hog?Larry seems to have had good success with 170 grain SP .30-30s.Guns & Ammo used to publish hog hunting stories where the weapons used were .45 ACPs.I think a reasonably placed Gould will stop a porker.

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John

And don't forget the story that Layne Simpson did, before he hired on to Shooting Times, about shooting a hog with a repilca cap n ball 1858 Remington revolver.

Joe

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Reply to : BruceBIn my "personal" thread over there about 'shooting my new .45-70', I asked Larry Gibson for some input on hawg shooting, but I haven't "seen" Larry for a day or two.I know that some of y'all have experience in this business of porcine ventilation, so I'd like to have you read my post about our local Russian boars on the .45-70 thread and see if you come up with any ideas. I also have "normal" rifles like .270, '06, Krag (now THERE'S an idea!) .338 etc etc. Plus .357, .44 and .41 Mag K-frame pistolas....TIA!Bruce,I don't know what you are looking for here. Everything you mention is capable providing the right slug is used. Asking for someone to pick from those is like asking me to pick your wife for ya.All I can say

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Hi Bass,

     My pig hunting experience has been limited to shooting pigs south of San Jose Calif.  We had to watch for cattle, so passed up a couple of those big tropy ones that passed between me & the cattle.  A couple of things I learned tho...A .444 Marlin will stop one every time but just watch out that no ther pig is behind the one you are shooting.  cast bullets travel clean thru & deliver lots of shock if they are the flatpoint variety.  A Lee 300 gr. will do the job very quickly but keeps right on going thru.  Contrary to popular belief, the "armor-plate" they supposedly have on their sides behind the front shoulder. doesn't slow down a cast bullet one bit.  If you have a chance, take them in the side of the head.  Even if you have to take a front on shot, right between the eyes is best.  Only when you shoot jacketed would I be worried about the ricochets off the front of the head because it sure is a sloping target.  Shooting cast & a .45-70, no pig is gonna go too far believe me.  I would shoot a 350-400 gr. bullet.  Save those 500 grainers for Africa.

                                                                                    Yup,

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Reason I was sighting in my M1895G was for a pig hunt in Paso Robles this spring.

Setup?  Looks like the Western RCBS #45-300-FNGC over Re-7......velocity in 2000FPS area. 

Hope I get relatively close to one (preferably ~50 yards) so I can use it.  If no shot for iron sighted lever gun, will switch to my scoped M70 '06 with {GASP} 180 Barnes' XBTs.

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Bass Ackward, why do you think a Gould wouldn't work on a hog?

I think a reasonably placed Gould will stop a porker.

Larry seems to have had good success with 170 grain SP .30-30s.

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John,

Your second statement was the reason for my comment.  I know where you are going here and it is all relative based on your experience level.   It's Bruce's first hog hunt and ..... experience with the new rifle .... and caliber.   Once you use a 45 you develop confidence.  Which is why I believe he generated the topic and question. 

And Larry has already established a confidence level.  Killamanjaro Bill killed over 1000 elephants with a 7MM Mauser.  So it works fine.  Would that be your first choice for your first elephant hunt when the guide behind you has a 458?  Confidence.  I have butchered hogs with 22 shorts with a "well placed" shot.  Anything he mentioned would work with a well placed shot.  What is ideal for hogs?  Anything that gives Bruce the confidence he needs to use it.

 

Cal,

I understand.  I have gone from stem to stern with a 385 LBT LFN that is still going from about 1800 fps muzzle.  The heaviest weight I own for 45s anymore is a 420.  But when hunting with cast, there are alot of options for big bores that effect on game performance.  Soft and hard.  Low velocity and fast.  Size of meplat, etc, etc.  Recommendations on weight can't .... really be made unless you know how the individual is going to approach the hunt with that rifle. 

And when it comes to "cast", it is each person's trial and error.  What if I told you I penetrated clear through a hog with a hard cast 200 grainer from a 44 Mag?  (Just hypothetical)  Would you quit shooting the 300s from the more powerful 444?   See what I mean.  We all tend to err on the side of too much weight.  Too much velocity.  Too big of a caliber.  But no animal I ever shot with ..... lead ever said you used too much.  Better than hearing the opposite I think.

 

 

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Texas is loaded with feral hogs to the point they have become a nusance. I know a felllow who bought a M44 MN for pig shooting. He located a hole in the fence where pigs were coming through in droves. He hid in the brush and when they started coming through, ran out with bayonet fixed and stuck a 200 lb boar. The hog did not retreat, but kept pushing him back, giving him no opportunity to withdraw the bayonet.He had not put a round in the chamber, and could not git a hand free to chamber a round. When you have a wild hog on yourcarbine bayonet, that pretty much consumes all of your energy and time. Had it not been for another fellow with a rifle, our pig sticker would have been in real trouble.

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charger

That reminded me of a war story my best friends Dad those us.  You see he was a Marine in WWII and did the entire South Pacific theater.  He would tell us anything we wanted to know about the guns and stuff but never anything about killing.  Can't blame the old boy as war is hell.  He did tell us that they made sure they always had a round chambered in their Garands when engaged in bayonet combat so if the bayonet got stuck in the enemies ribcage or bones that firing it and pulling at the same time would usually dislodge it.  Don't know how true that is but he isn't known to lie.  The only other instance of killing that he mentioned is that they shot the Samurai warriors first...they hated them with a passion. By the way my best friend has an original sword taken from one.  The guy bayoneting wild boars has alot of balls, they can be notoriously viscious and of intemperament disposition.

Joe

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So far as sticking one of the little yellow bastards with a bayonet when a man had a loaded rifle doesn't make sense to me! As long as I had ammo, I'd be firing for effect and hold the sticker as a last resort or between clips.

David, that sounds like it may get a bit of a heart rate increase, any way.  A freind was telling me about your Aussie football. it sounded like a rather intersting sport.

I have a friend, retired chief of police from Marengo, Iowa. Many years ago, they had a bull got loose around the town, and they weren't having much luck rounding it up. He finally jumped on it's back as it ran down Bear Creek. He then emptied his service revolver into it's head, killing it. He said the stop was pretty hard. But he is made of wrought iron and rawhide, and I doubt he even got a scratch.

I believe his son is now COP there, and a NRA rep. Last I heard of him being mentioned, was by Bart Skelton, in one of his columns.

Ahh, the good old days!