That boolit looks like BruceB's new aquistion, don't it? And there you have it. The 30 Rooski Shortski proves it's worth...........Buckshot

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Yes indeedy, that bullet looks just about EXACTLY like my "new-to-me"  SAECO design.  I was just sitting here thinking about that mould, and ZIIIiiiiP!  There is the bullet, in living color!  The expansion on the recovered bullet would seem to indicate paractically-perfect performance, even for a jacketed bullet.  Very nice.

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.........I'm posting these pictures for 45-70 Shooter."These photos were the end results of a fun gun I put together last winter. The deer was shot just back of the ribs and an entry mark is noticable. The bullet was quartering forward through the lungs and ended up just under the hide on the opposite side. The deer travelled approx 40 yds & dropped."4570 RiflemanThat boolit looks like BruceB's new aquistion, don't it?And there you have it. The 30 Rooski Shortski proves it's worth...........Buckshot

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No surprise htere, 165 gr. @ 1865 MV?  Pretty close to original .30/30 specifications.  The recovered bullet looks like a Remington Core-Lokt ad.  What was the range?  Depending on as-cast diameter the "before" boolit looks like the bore-rider fan's dream projectile!  curmudgeon

Nice deer .45-70 Shooter. Any idea on the weight?

That boolit is very similar to the one Dan made for me last spring for my CZ. I think  mine has a shorter ogive with a larger meplate than the one pictured and it has a tapered front band.-JDL

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These photos were the end results of a fun gun I put together last winter. The deer was shot just back of the ribs and an entry mark is noticable. The bullet was quartering forward through the lungs and ended up just under the hide on the opposite side. The deer travelled approx 40 yds & dropped." And there you have it. The 30 Rooski Shortski proves it's worth...........Buckshot

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Yep.  Nice deer.  What is impressive to me is the roughly 1900 fps muzzle velocity and the 20 - 1 mix.   Makes for a nice mushroom!   Looks like I might be able to alter my mix some.

But so the guy don't misslead folks, maybe he needs to change his handle to Shortskie Shooter .... er somethin.

The average pressure for military loaded 7.62x39 runs around 38,000 psi.  The highest pressure loading I could find for it in my reloading manuals was 47,000.  To say that it can be loaded to 52,000 psi is erroneous as practically just about any cartridge could be with say enough of the wrong fast burning powders.   The CZ527 which is made on a mini mauser action, much smaller then the smallring mauser actions you talk about, even though its made of much more modern steel can't be substantialy much stronger then the smallring mauser if any at all; and that action is also used for the 223 which does run in the low 50,000's factory loaded.  Alot of loads are out there for the 7.5 Swiss which has a slightly smaller bore then the .308 and these loads use .308 diameter bullets. Shooting the factory or military 7.62x39's out of a 7.62x39 rifle with a .308 isn't going to poise a problem.  Larry Gibson would challenge your statement on the small ring mauser's strenghts, but unfortunately he's away at the present.

Joe

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........FWIW, you can buy a chambered barrel and magazine blocker kit from GPC for the 7.62x39 to fit a small ring or large ring Mauser for $99 + shp. If you have an action lying around, then there you go. The barrels are .300"x.308" and since mine is on a small ring I choose not to shoot any of the commercial .311" ammo. Since the 7.62x39 can be loaded to 52K I choose to not chance the additional pressure in my action with the smaller bore............Buckshot

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Reply to : Buckshot2........FWIW, you can buy a chambered barrel and magazine blocker kit from GPC for the 7.62x39 to fit a small ring or large ring Mauser for $99 + shp. If you have an action lying around, then there you go. The barrels are .300"x.308" and since mine is on a small ring I choose not to shoot any of the commercial .311" ammo. Since the 7.62x39 can be loaded to 52K I choose to not chance the additional pressure in my action with the smaller bore............BuckshotI know a couple of friends that have rebarrelled Mausers to .30-30 Win, but in every case they used them as single shots, not even trying to make them feed. Having too much time on my hands, a thought about rebarrelling a K-31 Swiss to .30-30 slipped into my head. These rifles can be ha

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scrounger

Actually a better rifle to convert to 30-30 would be the Mosin Nagant because it's set up for a rimmed cartridge from the get go.  These can be found in rearsenaled condition too, sometimes even cheaper then the Swiss's.  Only fall back is they have a terrible trigger, but other then that they are an excellent rifle. I sure don't think you would have to worry about blowing one up in 30-30 after we saw Jumptraps blow up test on the Mosin.

Joe

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Reply to : Buckshot2.........I'm posting these pictures for 45-70 Shooter."These photos were the end results of a fun gun I put together last winter. The deer was shot just back of the ribs and an entry mark is noticable. The bullet was quartering forward through the lungs and ended up just under the hide on the opposite side. The deer travelled approx 40 yds & dropped."4570 RiflemanThat boolit looks like BruceB's new aquistion, don't it?And there you have it. The 30 Rooski Shortski proves it's worth...........BuckshotNo surprise htere, 165 gr. @ 1865 MV? Pretty close to original .30/30 specifications. The recovered bullet looks like a Remington Core-Lokt ad. What was the range? Depending on as-cast diameter the "before" boolit looks like the bo

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In reply to your question "What was the range?".  I estimated the range to be approx. 100yds give or take 10yds.  I was very impressed with the preformance and pleased when I recovered the bullet just under the hide on the far side.  The lead/tin mix (20/1) appears to be just about right.  The damage was very little, nothing like the damage done by copper jacketed stuff.  I sized the bullet to .308 which the barrel seems to like.

4570 Rifleman

Rick

If you said you read it somewhere you probably did. I don't doubt that there are loads in that range. Never the less you more then likey won't be shooting jacketed out of it will you? If you do shoot jacketed, especially the .310 bullet you have more then enough common sense to load them down some.  This all brings to light...wonder how strong the SKS action is compared to a bolt such as the small ring mauser.  We need ClarkM to do a blowup test on an SKS.

Joe

Scrounger;

       Just so you know, Ruger made a run of 77MKII in 7.62x39. The bore is designed with .308 caliber in mind, and it will accurately shoot the .311 bullets as well. If you really want to have some, try RCBS's 165gr. ,.308 silhoutte designed bullet and you can enjoy a cast bullet shooter dream.

       I bought one of these rifles some time back and I can tell you that this is a dream come!!!! With the WW mixture, and proper lubing, this little is outstanding in accuracy. I have been able to get 1" to 1 1/2" groups at 100 yds "OUTSTANDING" shooter, and it's a blast, I would compare to the best 30-30 with cast bullets. Just my -2- cents.  jebb