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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 13:23:09)
What is "T"? Is it tablespoon?
Thanks;
joe b.
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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 18:19:25)
You obviously do no cooking. In a recipe, a capitol T is for tablespoon. A lower case t is for teaspoon.
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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 19:47:48)
Reply to : waksupi
You obviously do no cooking. In a recipe, a capitol T is for tablespoon. A lower case t is for teaspoon.
The above formula ? how much dose that make ? I'v NEVER made lube before. I use Lee Alox. But now I'm in the "Rank of the Uninployed" I'v got TIME on my hands !
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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 20:54:08)
PDShooter--Most of the ingredients come in a quanity larger than needed for one batch. Takes as much effort to cook up a small batch as it does a large one(well maybe not in felix and Sundogs case of the mother of all smelter batch). For sure you want to cook it outdoors. With this in mind, I'd multiply it out so that you just about fill a three pound coffee can(if you can still find a metal one--they seem to be plastic nowdays. You can cook it in the coffee can and just leave it in there for storage. I have no problem filling my luber even in the winter--just scoop it out and put the lid back on.
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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 23:30:32)
I find 2 kinds of lanolin locally. One is "Thick & Creamy", the other is liquid sorta like an oil. Are they both good to use in Felix Lube?
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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 23:39:49)
Reply to : Beerd
I find 2 kinds of lanolin locally. One is "Thick & Creamy", the other is liquid sorta like an oil. Are they both good to use in Felix Lube?..
Somewhere on the packaging you're going to find the technical terms for the two types. They are "Hydrous", meaning mixed with water. That would be the more viscous of the two, and "Anhydrous", meaning without water, the thicker, more sticky of them. A little heat will loosen it up and make it runny. The anhydrous is what is commonly used in the lube, although the hydrous type could be used, it would just require more heating to evaporate the excess water. Just call me 'Starmetal Junior'.
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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 23:48:09)
Reply to : scrounger
Reply to : BeerdI find 2 kinds of lanolin locally. One is "Thick & Creamy", the other is liquid sorta like an oil. Are they both good to use in Felix Lube?..Somewhere on the packaging you're going to find the technical terms for the two types. They are "Hydrous", meaning mixed with water. That would be the more viscous of the two, and "Anhydrous", meaning without water, the thicker, more sticky of them. A little heat will loosen it up and make it runny. The anhydrous is what is commonly used in the lube, although the hydrous type could be used, it would just require more heating to evaporate the excess water. Just call me 'Starmetal Junior'.
Starmetal Junior  wow! Now that is a handle for sure.
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(Date Posted:11/19/2004 01:32:42)
Reply to : CarpetmanRay
PDShooter--Most of the ingredients come in a quanity larger than needed for one batch. Takes as much effort to cook up a small batch as it does a large one(well maybe not in felix and Sundogs case of the mother of all smelter batch). For sure you want to cook it outdoors. With this in mind, I'd multiply it out so that you just about fill a three pound coffee can(if you can still find a metal one--they seem to be plastic nowdays. You can cook it in the coffee can and just leave it in there for storage. I have no problem filling my luber even in the winter--just scoop it out and put the lid back on.
I have the next 11 yes "eleven" days off. Weather out look does not look promising to do any caulking or painting, damn the bad luck.
So with that being said I am going to try my hand at this. The above recipe will equal out to about 1 stick of lube I guess? Just wondering as to how much of everything I will need to fill a coffe can 2/3 full or so. I am going to guess that I will need more bees wax than anything. As to the bees wax where is the best, cheapest and easiest place to find the stuff? I remember mom used to use the stuff for some of her sewing. Though I may have to look around and see if any of the guys I used to know that had bees are still fooling with them.
Once again help from you guys is much appreciated.
Damn you Ken and Bob for getting me into this any way <grin>. Next thing ya know I will be trying to make powder or reload primers, lol.
Jeff
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(Date Posted:11/19/2004 03:05:39)
I can't tell you exactly how much you get from the basic recipe, but I can tell you it lasts a long time. I would guess maybe ten sticks worth?
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(Date Posted:11/19/2004 03:18:16)
Geez, can't any of you guys hold a job?!!!
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(Date Posted:11/19/2004 17:00:53)
Waksupi, good job on rendering the recipe. I would respecfully comment, however, that the inventor, Mr Felix, would probably do one minor thing a little different. That is add the beeswax before the lanolin, and then when that is melted, reduce or remove the heat and add the lanolin, thus not running any risk of burning or scorching the lanolin. Small thing, and I suppose if you don't do it this way you might be just as fine. Did I mention that I have had the honor of spending time with Felix, and Mrs Felix, on various ocassions and find their company quite delightful, including their boys. This man is quite the marvel. sundog
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(Date Posted:11/19/2004 20:24:40)
I aquired all but the beeswax last night. The beeswax may be hardest to find, but have a fair source to look into Monday.
As to the lanolin, what I picked up at the RX last night is the hydrous type "all natural" it says.
What I found at a couple of the farm stores all have some type of antiseptic, vitamin E or what ever extra in them. I have not found any plain form of anhydrous lanolin any where yet. It does seem to be some what harder than the one for human use. Will any of the aditives in the animal type cause a problem? Or, should I just use the hydrous and cook the extra water out of it, maybe put a dab extra in so as to compensate for the water?
Jeff
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(Date Posted:11/19/2004 20:58:21)
jsh---The Wal Mart pharmacy ordered the anhydrous lanolin for me and had it like next day. I don't know what would be the results of using hydrous lanolin? I sorta suspect some cat named felix could answer that. To locate beeswax,I called our county agent and he knew who I should contact.
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(Date Posted:11/19/2004 21:53:47)
Reply to : jsh
Jeff, don't use hydrous lanolin unless making a lube for black powder. Use anhydrous because even it has 15 percent water, but the concentration is typically low enough to make the lanolin merge into the other oils/waxes, especially when stearates are added, like very thin gratings from an Ivory soap bar. Ivory Snow flakes will work, but the glycerin content might be too high to match/merge properly with the included oils. ... felix
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(Date Posted:11/20/2004 06:41:03)
LOL, sitting here thinking about what in blazes I am going to do with this tube of hydrous lanolin. Now what the pharmacist told me it was used for most of the time, somthing to do with women folks getting, er uh, a little chapped from breast feeding. NOW if that causes me some difficulty in the next 9 months there is gonna be hell to pay in Oregon and Kansas!<grin> I am to damn old for any more of them, these two I got now are enough. Though they are the most darling little angels,............when they are asleep of course.
Being the pharmacist is a brother of a good friend of mine along with just having hunted with weekend before last, don't think I should have a problem getiing the anhydrous lanolin.
I guess a thanks is due again. LOL, well on second thought I will wait 9 months, then give ya what ever is due.
Jeff
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(Date Posted:11/20/2004 07:29:43)
The left over lanolin will come in handy this winter. If your hands get chapped, there is nothing better to put on them before you go to bed. They will be nice and soft in the morning. I generally wet my hands, and then put on the lanolin, as it seems to go on better that way.
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(Date Posted:11/20/2004 12:59:50)
Lanolin makes a near-perfect case sizing lubricant. I've used it for years.
joe b.
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(Date Posted:11/25/2004 23:33:26)
Well, I got a batch made today, double batch of waksupi's recipe. I have not tried an yet, but consistancy looks to be good. It is not overly sticky or soft.
As to the soap issue, used Ivory. I didn't have any problem getting it mixed up in there. I used a razor blade to shave some and it worked fine. I do wonder if a pull type cheese slicer or a vegatble peeler would work.
I will add somthing to the above that may help others. Decide how big a batch you are going to make, then have everything laid out ready to go.(of course all good cooks do this any way) I am getting at shaving the soap here. The second T was not ready and I had to set the pan off to the side for a few minutes.
I am thinking of making another batch when I get some carnabua wax. I am going to get another 3-4 pounds of beeswax so I have it on hand, should be enough to last me a day or two.
If it works as good as it smells I should be in business.
Thanks once again to all of you for the help.
Jeff
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(Date Posted:11/26/2004 00:54:03)
jsh--To determine if you can use a vegetable peeler or cheese slicer on Ivory soap,just try shaving with it. Use lots of lather and let us know. Glad you finally made a batch,what did you cook it in?
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(Date Posted:12/23/2004 06:58:10)
HI,
Was going to tell you that beeswax is what the toilet sealer rings are made out of, but it appers you got some from another sorce. Beeswax makes a great flux while casting.
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(Date Posted:12/23/2004 07:30:41)
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(Date Posted:03/02/2005 07:27:11)
Boom Boom, toilet wax rings used to be made from bee's wax, but are now made from a petro chemical product. Check the label.
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(Date Posted:03/20/2005 18:24:50)
Mixed up a batch on Saturday, the slick item for shaving the Ivory Soap is a micro plane, its sorta like a sureform only it has a much finer cut.
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