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As I understand things, the classic NRA Formula is 50/50 alox/besswax.So, in this context is 'alox' = Aluminum Oxide? That seems odd since it is commonly used as an abrasive. I've studied some of the homebrew lube formula's and most of them seem to have some reasonable ideas behind them, but none of them use alox.I am greatly confused.

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Arachidonate Lipoxygenase (ALOX)

jcork,  Alox is made in several different numbers by Lubrizol.  The Alox in the 50/50 lube is Alox 2138F.  Lubrizol no longer makes 2138F, but say that Alox 350 is the current replacement for it.  I had them send me a sample of 350 and it smells the same, looks the same, feels the same, shoots pretty good also.  The smallest container they sell is 5 gallons.

The comercial 50/50 lubes are too expensive in my opinion.  From $3-5 or more.  I'm setting up to make 50-50 lube and will sell it online(at a much lower price) as soon as I get my store setup.  I'm also working on a high speed lube with Carnuaba in it.

If you want some 50-50 at a much reduced price, email me.  idahobronco@aol.com

I'm waiting till I get the credit card stuff worked out before I release the web addy.  I'm working on trying to get some Nitro Express loading dies at a more reasonble price also.

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Now there's a great trivia question to have in your pocket...

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I can't even pronounce it, much less remember it. Credit to computer search.

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jcork, Alox is made in several different numbers by Lubrizol. The Alox in the 50/50 lube is Alox 2138F. Lubrizol no longer makes 2138F, but say that Alox 350 is the current replacement for it. I had them send me a sample of 350 and it smells the same, looks the same, feels the same, shoots pretty good also. The smallest container they sell is 5 gallons.The comercial 50/50 lubes are too expensive in my opinion. From $3-5 or more. I'm setting up to make 50-50 lube and will sell it online(at a much lower price)as soon as I get my store setup. I'm also working on a high speed lube with Carnuaba in it.If you want some 50-50 at a much reduced price, email me.idahobronco@aol.comI'm waiting till I get the credit card stuff worked ou

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Did you see that .600 Nitro Express Mold I posted a picture of last night? Not many of them around. If you have the chambering reamer to do the barrel, why didn't you use them to make a set of dies? Seems like I've heard it can be done...

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Doh! What was I thinking; of course it's Arachidonate Lipoxygenase. I don't think I would have worked that one out on my own.Thanx to all who responded.

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.....................Why jcork, how silly of you not to have known that. As a bullets caster and sizer I'm amazed. That's one of the very basic topics one learns upon entering the field of foundering thier own projectiles.

Actually when I first saw what Scrounger had put in his post I thought it was some kind of scientific name for a species of spider. Hope I'm never asked to spell it, let alone say the freaking thing.

....................Buckshot

Yep at the end of a hard day sendin' cast bullets downrange all most of us do is sit under the trees discussing Arachidonate Lipoxygenase!

I happen to think its most interesting property is that In the human colon, arachidonic acid is metabolized primarily by cyclooxygenase (COX) and arachidonate lipoxygenase (ALOX) to bioactive lipids, which are implicated in colon cancer risk. Several polymorphisms in ALOX and COX genes have been identified, including G-1752A, G-1699A and Glu254Lys in ALOX5; Gln261Arg in ALOX12; Leu237Met and Val481Ile in COX1; and C-645T and Val511Ala in COX2. Because of the significant role of arachidonic acid metabolism in colon cancer, we hypothesized that these polymorphisms could influence susceptibility to colon cancer. We addressed this hypothesis in African-Americans and Caucasians using colon cancer cases (n = 293) and hospital- (n = 229) and population-based (n = 304) control groups. Polymorphisms did not differ between the control groups (P > 0.05); thus, they are combined for all analyses presented. ALOX5 Glu254Lys and COX2 C-645T and Val511Ala allele frequencies differed between Caucasians and African-American controls (P < 0.001). The ALOX5 -1752 and -1699 polymorphisms were in linkage disequilibrium (P < 0.001) and associated with a decreased risk in Caucasians in ALOX5 haplotype analyses (P = 0.03). Furthermore, an inverse association was observed between A alleles at positions -1752 and -1699 of ALOX5 and colon cancer risk in Caucasians, but not in African-Americans. Caucasians with A alleles at ALOX5 -1752 had a reduced odds of colon cancer versus those with G alleles [odds ratio (OR) (GA versus GG), 0.63; 95% confidence interval (CI), 0.39-1.01; OR (AA versus GG), 0.33; 95% CI, 0.07-1.65, P_trend = 0.02]. Similar results were observed for ALOX5 G-1699A [OR (GA versus GG), 0.59, 95% CI, 0.37-0.94; OR (AA versus GG), 0.27, 95% CI, 0.06-1.32, P_trend = 0.01]. Statistically significant associations with colon cancer were not observed for the other polymorphisms investigated. We have shown for the first time that a haplotype containing ALOX5 G-1752A and G-1699A in a negative regulatory region of the promoter may influence colon cancer risk in Caucasians.

It may also be noted The effects of three anti-inflammatory drugs, which interfere with arachidonic acid transformation by three different enzymes, have been compared by using a simple model of tissue damage and foreign body rejection. In groups of control rats, subcutaneously implanted polyester sponges were rejected after a mean of 12 days. Indomethacin, which selectively inhibits prostaglandin synthesis, did not significantly change time to rejection but BW755C (3-amino-1-[m-(trifluoromethyl) phenyl]-2-pyrazoline), which is a dual inhibitor of prostaglandin and leukotriene synthesis, prolonged time to rejection to a mean of 22 days. The anti-inflammatory steroid dexamethasone, which reduces arachidonic acid metabolism by stimulating the formation of a phospholipase inhibitor, prolonged time to sponge rejection as BW755C did. Treatment with BW755C or dexamethasone was also accompanied by a reduction in total leukocyte numbers in inflammatory exudates collected at 1-14 days, whereas indomethacin increased leukocyte migration on days 1 and 2 and had no effect at later times. These results suggest that the inhibition of the leukotriene-forming lipoxygenase suppresses leukocyte activation and that this leads to a reduced rate of tissue damage in experimental inflammation.

http://www.carcin.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/25/12/2467

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=345178

I'm sure CarpetMan has found a good use for it in his pursuit of the miniature lions...

It has been sugested that you can use roughly equal parts of beeswax and LEE Liquid Alox to get a suitable replacement.

Actually, Lee Liquid Alox is Alox 606-55, which is a calcium soap used for corrosion proofing of steel. (Alox is just a trade name here, not an abrasive. Go to www.lubrizol.com and read about it).

I have done a small batch of this, but haven't shot it yet, as my Star sizer is full of Javelina right now. But try a very small batch for yourself. MUST work, since Lee's liquid alox is a very good bullet lubricant, at least up to moderate rifle speeds.

utk

The chambering reamer/ loading die thing...

A roughing reamer can be used to make a sizer die.  The finish reamer can be used for a seating/ crimping die.  I only have the finish reamer for 470NE.

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The chambering reamer/ loading die thing...A roughing reamer can be used to make a sizer die. The finish reamer can be used for a seating/ crimping die. I only have the finish reamer for 470NE.

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