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We laud the virtue of others who save others from being murdered.   I find http://forum1.aimoo.com/Carneades/ReplyID-0/TopicID-1859387/GoToTopic.html skeptic griggsy 2010-07-11 23:34:37.01 General Discussion  Supernaturalists err in finding free will and soul-making override the naturalists' problem of evil. Alvin Plantinga gets credit for getting God exonerated for all the pointless evils. No, the logical problem of evil yet rules!   It is no hobgobin of little minds to require supe http://forum1.aimoo.com/Carneades/ReplyID-1100968/TopicID-1786064/GoToTopic.html Guest 2010-06-11 09:05:27.8 General Discussion  Per the argument from existence, Existence, being all , therefore there can be no external cause or material whence it came. And per the  infinite regress argument, cause, event and time presuppose previous causes, events and time. What are good arguments for or against His exis http://forum1.aimoo.com/Carneades/ReplyID-1031899/TopicID-1786064/GoToTopic.html CarneadesofGa 2010-06-01 20:27:10.103 General Discussion With   no body and thus no brain and thus no mind, how could God think or act. We ignostics find that it is so fatuous to declare that He has a disembodied mind, contrary to that sophist Alvin Plantinga, who finds this question not worth the effort to  combat. No, he is quite  wr http://forum1.aimoo.com/Carneades/ReplyID-0/TopicID-1808010/GoToTopic.html Guest 2010-04-25 10:32:53.297 General Discussion  No wonder God permits pointless evil as that's how He can use His free will. So we're indeed in His image Were we as the supposed denizens of Heaven, we also would have free will and a guarantee not to do wrong David Ramsay Steele, my friend, notes i n 'atheism Explained : from Folly to P http://forum1.aimoo.com/Carneades/ReplyID-0/TopicID-1786064/GoToTopic.html skeptic griggsy 2010-03-30 17:25:55.17 General Discussion  To know god is to know there is no God. The teleonomic argument is that as the weight of scientific evidence is that teleonomy - no planned outcomes-operates in the Cosmos, there can be no divine intent- cosmic teleology- and thus no God. 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