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A fellow Cold War Veteran and friend Steve McCurdy (The Minuteman) and two associates,
Valentine Dagher (Crazy Horse) and Ramone Hulett (Cutter) are undertaking a tremendous and honorable
project. They plan to honor Cold War Veterans throughout America, as a way of saying Thank You for Your
Service to all those who served in the military between Sept. 1945 and Dec. 1991.
It is their goal to travel across the U.S. this summer, covering some 15,000 miles in a star-spangled SUV.
As they make this incredible journey they will present Cold War Medals to 100 veterans in 100 cities. They will also
make stops at several Cold War Missile Sites, Army, Navy and Air Force installations.
This journey will become a filmed documentary of their tour of America and the presentation of honors befitting
the sacrifices of Cold War Veterans: "Crazy Horse, Cutter, and the Minuteman A Cold War Salute."
Please visit the website http://coldwarsalute.com/ for more information and locations of planned stops.
Further information on the tour and how to donate to the cause to help travel costs and medals go to
http://www.indiegogo.com/ColdWarSalute
This worthy endeavor needs the support of all Americans, with your help recognition will finally be given to
those brave men and women. The Department of Defense has decided not to issue a medal to our nation's
Cold Warriors. Help us right this wrong and do what is correct and remember the long and often bitter
fight for peace and freedom.
Jerald Terwilliger
National Chairman
American Cold War Veterans
"We Remember"
Valentine Dagher (Crazy Horse) and Ramone Hulett (Cutter) are undertaking a tremendous and honorable
project. They plan to honor Cold War Veterans throughout America, as a way of saying Thank You for Your
Service to all those who served in the military between Sept. 1945 and Dec. 1991.
It is their goal to travel across the U.S. this summer, covering some 15,000 miles in a star-spangled SUV.
As they make this incredible journey they will present Cold War Medals to 100 veterans in 100 cities. They will also
make stops at several Cold War Missile Sites, Army, Navy and Air Force installations.
This journey will become a filmed documentary of their tour of America and the presentation of honors befitting
the sacrifices of Cold War Veterans: "Crazy Horse, Cutter, and the Minuteman A Cold War Salute."
Please visit the website http://coldwarsalute.com/ for more information and locations of planned stops.
Further information on the tour and how to donate to the cause to help travel costs and medals go to
http://www.indiegogo.com/ColdWarSalute
This worthy endeavor needs the support of all Americans, with your help recognition will finally be given to
those brave men and women. The Department of Defense has decided not to issue a medal to our nation's
Cold Warriors. Help us right this wrong and do what is correct and remember the long and often bitter
fight for peace and freedom.
Jerald Terwilliger
National Chairman
American Cold War Veterans
"We Remember"
"And so the greatest of American triumphs... became a peculiarly joyless victory. We had won the Cold War, but there would be no parades."
-- Robert M. Gates, 1996
-- Robert M. Gates, 1996
Date Posted: 04/13/2012 20:25
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Someone should inform them their video does not work!
Date Posted:04/13/2012 22:04
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Their video worked just fine for me. (After I disabled my NoScript program.)
Date Posted:04/14/2012 06:52
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They started their campaign with a too short of a timeline, and they cut out a source of funding, through the mail, as all who wish to donate do not have pay pal or credit cards.
Date Posted:04/14/2012 10:58
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Gave my contribution today to cold war salute, thankyou to those who are conducting this tribute they are rightous honorable people and should be voted into office to lead the country, on another note I had some reservation about giving not because of the small dollar amount but being a cold war veteran myself I felt sort of like I wanted a medal or some sort of recognition for myself which I'm not, I also am a retired police officer with 25 yrs. of service and it was akin to submitting your own job for the awards commitee which takes away from the honor, my point being it's all political and unfortunatley if we don't do it the politicians aren't going to, so we need to see it done, Thanks to all veterans who served honorable past and present.
Date Posted:04/14/2012 13:46
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I think these three on the Cold War Salute are doing us, the ACWV a great service and I am hopeful that something good comes out of it. Made my donation in my father's name. He is a Korea combat vet and understands what the Cold War was and how the Truman Doctrine was directly responsible for our involvement in the "Unforgotten War". If the trio only gets a part of their stated goal completed, it will be the awareness and hopefully some local press as they go that could pay bigger dividends down the road for all of the Cold War Vets.
May I suggest that our members copy their web-site and toss it out to every Veteran, supporter of Veterans and anyone they think may help with a contribution. I have e-mailed my American Legion Post, and members of the USS San Jose Association as well as friends and family. If it buys them just a few more miles then it was worth it.
I think I heard that the journey for them begins right here in Houston so I'll try to discover more about them.
May I suggest that our members copy their web-site and toss it out to every Veteran, supporter of Veterans and anyone they think may help with a contribution. I have e-mailed my American Legion Post, and members of the USS San Jose Association as well as friends and family. If it buys them just a few more miles then it was worth it.
I think I heard that the journey for them begins right here in Houston so I'll try to discover more about them.
Paul V. Dudkowski
Charter Member, ACWV
US Navy, 1973 to 1978
"Dedicated to the Cause"
Charter Member, ACWV
US Navy, 1973 to 1978
"Dedicated to the Cause"
Date Posted:04/16/2012 08:48
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This Cold War Salute Jazz is not going to do anybody any good. People in this nation don't care about Cold War Vet's no matter what you say.
Date Posted:04/16/2012 17:21
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Wow, that is depressing news. Guess I better cancel the celebration.
;)
Date Posted:04/17/2012 02:56
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Don't feed the trolls.
Date Posted:04/17/2012 07:06
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I can concur with the above statement that nobody cares about veterans. As you know, what I posted about the Global Entry issue, there alone, no consideration to disabled or war veterans that must stand in line but if you have the money and time to go sit through an interview so that they can determine you are not a terrorist, you go to the front of the line because you were willing to pay. Those are the attitudes that bring this country down. So TSA will take your money regardless of whom you are. You get to go to the front of the line.
Date Posted:04/17/2012 17:38
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But nonetheless, very cool. I like this kinda stuff. Very neat web site. Great objective.
Date Posted:04/17/2012 17:42
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Has anybody checked this Cold War Salute guy's for their credentials? How and where are these donations going?
Date Posted:04/18/2012 17:37
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By all accounts, the money raised is to fund the awareness trip, purchase commemorative medals and make the film about recognizing Cold War Vets. It has never been implied that the money raised would be used for anything else. I wish them all the luck in the world and believe the cause a noble one.
Of course like most things Cold War, the donations are not coming in and only a handful seem to care enough to donate. A tough nut to crack to be sure. They are obviously not professional fund raisers and probably started too late based on their end date to get the funding they seek.
Lastly, I sincerely dislike this new forum layout. Yikes!
Of course like most things Cold War, the donations are not coming in and only a handful seem to care enough to donate. A tough nut to crack to be sure. They are obviously not professional fund raisers and probably started too late based on their end date to get the funding they seek.
Lastly, I sincerely dislike this new forum layout. Yikes!
Paul V. Dudkowski
Charter Member, ACWV
US Navy, 1973 to 1978
"Dedicated to the Cause"
Charter Member, ACWV
US Navy, 1973 to 1978
"Dedicated to the Cause"
Date Posted:04/19/2012 06:29
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Yea, this site has become somewhat eerie. Who through down the switch?
Date Posted:04/19/2012 07:10
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Gentleman, the Cold War Salute posting was somewhat early to you all without explanation.
Since the forum reformat has been dropped on us by Aimoo by surprise i will be short until i can see how to optimize it better.
The Cold War Salute is an Official project of ACWV. ACWV is a c--producer and benefactor of the project. It has taken us 3 years to get the idea and backing from industry to go forth. This project has been vetted by ACWV. Proceeds will be shared to our nonprofit.
More on this later when we have a press release. You will see more integration of the Cold War Salute on our website in future.
ACWV Hq
Since the forum reformat has been dropped on us by Aimoo by surprise i will be short until i can see how to optimize it better.
The Cold War Salute is an Official project of ACWV. ACWV is a c--producer and benefactor of the project. It has taken us 3 years to get the idea and backing from industry to go forth. This project has been vetted by ACWV. Proceeds will be shared to our nonprofit.
More on this later when we have a press release. You will see more integration of the Cold War Salute on our website in future.
ACWV Hq
Date Posted:04/19/2012 10:14
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Scott, if I read you right, you are saying the ACWV has been working with the Cold War Veteran Salute for 3 years yet this is the first our members are hearing about this. While I love the sentiment and the idea of what they are doing, where is the transparency? I donated big in my father's name thinking this was 3 individuals who came up with an idea that would get America's attention regarding the Cold War. I support an alliance with the group but why the secrets? Can we expect a further clarification soon? What press release? I know that by declining any further leadership roles I have taken myself "out of the loop" but if we don't play the role of an open and honest organization we may offend or see membership questioning what is going on.
Paul V. Dudkowski
Charter Member, ACWV
US Navy, 1973 to 1978
"Dedicated to the Cause"
Charter Member, ACWV
US Navy, 1973 to 1978
"Dedicated to the Cause"
Date Posted:04/20/2012 18:33
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I have to concur here. This statement came at a surprise. I was quite flabbergasted. Why are things done in secrecy? I can point out that this was exactly the same way reservist without active duty time got sent up the creek without a paddle and criteria suddenly changed overnight for the cold war medal which hasn't happened yet. All done in secrecy and suddenly overnight. Without regard to the membership. Not trying to stir the pot, but Sacwarrior, with all due respect, can you please offer an explanation?
Date Posted:04/20/2012 18:55
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Let me attempt a simple explanation if I can. The project came to us a while back, Mr. McCurdy contacted me and sent me his book to read and one to Frank, being also a Missileer he thought I would be a good critic of the book and his ideas about ACWV potentially being involved with making a movie out of his book. Haveing a VSO as the benefactor behind the movie. We then invited him to join us at the annual meeting in Dc which he presented the concepts to the board, we decided to go forth if he could put a project together, he ran into serious financing problems and lack of interest from his industry so the project fell to the back burner, but would not give up. He then put up the "lets Give them a Medal" (link has been on our site since) project to sample interest and do some medal presentations to develop other angles. He got interest up, winds changed and here we are. It became a real doable project very fast and he would have gone on without us if we did not come on board. I stayed with it and Just a week ago came to a commitment to join on as a Co-producer with the project, details are still being implemented and its premature even to announce fully. We pushed out the landing pages and the launch timing for Steve interim. There will be more coming. The promotion company involved handled the last Superbowl (real juice)so that end of it is their baby. But we just committed so we can tell you about it now. I have hinted to a method in past posts and here it is. There is funnel through with the donations and ACWV retains a piece of it. A revenue stream for ACWV to do more. You will see our logos and credits on the RV that will travel across the country and we will feed in the daily filming. Our logos and credits will be on the filming. In a snapshot.
I will say this, there is difficulty on the leadership level in communication and Jerry and I have been aligned on this project. Other Board members that have pulled back or limited time wise or health wise or for whatever reasons don't participate so we have what we have.
This forum has never been an official means to communicate with the membership. As you can see The owner of this forum(non current leadership member) has flipped the switch and dropped my access to normal member from Administrator and even if he is the owner technically of the forum he has no ACWV authority to repo it, use the logos etc... and take his ball without explanation. Myself being the online and media manager of all our platforms this is remarkable to me. Emails out to these board members have not been returned or calls. They not know what we do or are doing even. It's tiring. We press forth.
So, I have opened up a new forum on the membership website interim till this Board issue is rectified. Formal notifications will come through the membership website like the Dues notices come. A newsletter for all will also be developed soon to subscribe too on membership website.
I'm always available by email and telephone..
I will say this, there is difficulty on the leadership level in communication and Jerry and I have been aligned on this project. Other Board members that have pulled back or limited time wise or health wise or for whatever reasons don't participate so we have what we have.
This forum has never been an official means to communicate with the membership. As you can see The owner of this forum(non current leadership member) has flipped the switch and dropped my access to normal member from Administrator and even if he is the owner technically of the forum he has no ACWV authority to repo it, use the logos etc... and take his ball without explanation. Myself being the online and media manager of all our platforms this is remarkable to me. Emails out to these board members have not been returned or calls. They not know what we do or are doing even. It's tiring. We press forth.
So, I have opened up a new forum on the membership website interim till this Board issue is rectified. Formal notifications will come through the membership website like the Dues notices come. A newsletter for all will also be developed soon to subscribe too on membership website.
I'm always available by email and telephone..
Date Posted:04/20/2012 21:36
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Thanks Scott, you satisfied my curiosity and may I say THANK YOU for all your efforts!
Paul V. Dudkowski
Charter Member, ACWV
US Navy, 1973 to 1978
"Dedicated to the Cause"
Charter Member, ACWV
US Navy, 1973 to 1978
"Dedicated to the Cause"
Date Posted:04/21/2012 06:16
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Ok. If this forum has never been a means to communicate with the membership, well, then ok. It is what it is.
Date Posted:04/21/2012 06:47
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Paul as well other members I have held off while waiting for the board members to address the many issues Scott has produced in actions taken by him alone.
First Scott has and still holds secrets from the board as well members for his OWN interest, this current project was discussed by Jerry, Sean & I three years ago after the founders meeting, so the claim that it has been in the works, well then how is it that Frank & Sean and I had No Idea that it was on going as well not kept updated over those years ?, I would ask Jerry if I was able to contact him just when did he find out about this ?, at the same time Scott just dropped it on the membership leaving others out ?, next I ask a membership vote of No Confidence and that Scott be dropped from the board for Conflict of Interest for his claim of being a Co- Producer the other producer is not part of ACWV inc. correct ?
The fact he has taken actions as well Kept Them Secret from Key Board Members as well the membership at large is reason number One, next is his poor actions as membership director with no reports on funds or even an accounting of members over 3 years that he has handled doing it, as well the fact he has withheld that information from the membership as well spot reports that did not cover fully all information needed.
Scott has sabotaged my effort to design a certificate per request from Jerry as well Frank for the coming year that was needed for the meeting this year, in doing so he has delayed this by more than 3 months or more , Scott's issues have been a near constant negative impact with the function of CWVA, to also include firing or kicking others out of this group, doing their job or even telling others just who is the leadership, he has misled membership about ACWV Head Quarters, as well who controls the { Platforms } ACWV websites and did so without their Knowledge, this also includes his take over of the News vine ACWV that I had set up, he also locked me out from that site and in doing so kept me from passing it on to a fellow Viner Friend & Member of that group to run.
Scott's history of taking secret actions had no real cost except to me most of all so I held back from making it an issue,now some issues look to have an impact to membership & leadership, until now just what liabilities have we accepted, just what portion of funds are going Where to who?,just what percent is to be paid out, how much comes back to ACWV, where the hell is all the Key Information ?, given Scott's secret actions, withholding information, using others ideas as well programs ? I find the actions he has taken to raise more questions as to just what the goals are ?, His or Ours ?
I wish also to point out the board cannot at the moment take actions as Scott so far refused to address the board and now plans Not To Attend The Meeting in D.C. thus my only choice is this forum to inform the ACWV membership, needless to say Scott wants to bury this and hide, seems his E-mails contacts and demands tend to be One Way, HIS !
I ask for an Online membership to vote be set up by Frank please or that Scott be compelled to attend the meeting to explain his actions, if not then Scott needs to be moved to attend an Online private chat to be held by ACWV leadership here please, if he still will not comply we need to please vote to expel him from ACWV leadership as a board member.
Unlike Frank,Sean & Jerry as well most others, information from Scott has been lacking. while questons keep adding to a pile up like a fog induced crash on the turnpike.
And yes he and I have had problems, up until now I tried to work with him, he refused the on going issue is by his choice alone.
PNV
First Scott has and still holds secrets from the board as well members for his OWN interest, this current project was discussed by Jerry, Sean & I three years ago after the founders meeting, so the claim that it has been in the works, well then how is it that Frank & Sean and I had No Idea that it was on going as well not kept updated over those years ?, I would ask Jerry if I was able to contact him just when did he find out about this ?, at the same time Scott just dropped it on the membership leaving others out ?, next I ask a membership vote of No Confidence and that Scott be dropped from the board for Conflict of Interest for his claim of being a Co- Producer the other producer is not part of ACWV inc. correct ?
The fact he has taken actions as well Kept Them Secret from Key Board Members as well the membership at large is reason number One, next is his poor actions as membership director with no reports on funds or even an accounting of members over 3 years that he has handled doing it, as well the fact he has withheld that information from the membership as well spot reports that did not cover fully all information needed.
Scott has sabotaged my effort to design a certificate per request from Jerry as well Frank for the coming year that was needed for the meeting this year, in doing so he has delayed this by more than 3 months or more , Scott's issues have been a near constant negative impact with the function of CWVA, to also include firing or kicking others out of this group, doing their job or even telling others just who is the leadership, he has misled membership about ACWV Head Quarters, as well who controls the { Platforms } ACWV websites and did so without their Knowledge, this also includes his take over of the News vine ACWV that I had set up, he also locked me out from that site and in doing so kept me from passing it on to a fellow Viner Friend & Member of that group to run.
Scott's history of taking secret actions had no real cost except to me most of all so I held back from making it an issue,now some issues look to have an impact to membership & leadership, until now just what liabilities have we accepted, just what portion of funds are going Where to who?,just what percent is to be paid out, how much comes back to ACWV, where the hell is all the Key Information ?, given Scott's secret actions, withholding information, using others ideas as well programs ? I find the actions he has taken to raise more questions as to just what the goals are ?, His or Ours ?
I wish also to point out the board cannot at the moment take actions as Scott so far refused to address the board and now plans Not To Attend The Meeting in D.C. thus my only choice is this forum to inform the ACWV membership, needless to say Scott wants to bury this and hide, seems his E-mails contacts and demands tend to be One Way, HIS !
I ask for an Online membership to vote be set up by Frank please or that Scott be compelled to attend the meeting to explain his actions, if not then Scott needs to be moved to attend an Online private chat to be held by ACWV leadership here please, if he still will not comply we need to please vote to expel him from ACWV leadership as a board member.
Unlike Frank,Sean & Jerry as well most others, information from Scott has been lacking. while questons keep adding to a pile up like a fog induced crash on the turnpike.
And yes he and I have had problems, up until now I tried to work with him, he refused the on going issue is by his choice alone.
PNV
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Date Posted:04/22/2012 19:02
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Hello Gentlemen,
I am looking forward to our May 1st meeting in D.C. We as Members need to stay focused on the goals of this organization. We have established a tradition of meeting and visiting our respective representatives in House and Senate offices every year on this date. I think it is important we maintain our presence there as well as our ceremony at Arlington.
In May of 2010 I asked to be removed from the Board due to health and time issues. In the last year I have recharged my batteries taking a hiatus from my blog for 3 months for a time from ACWV activities for the first time in 5 years. Current members might well understand the reason why it is necessary to take a break and refocus to prevent burning out. I sit here today on the eve of our meeting in Washington D.C. renewed with a new enthusiasm and vigor ready to work for our cause. It is the reason why I have asked the leadership at ACWV Inc. to reinstate me as a Board Member.
As far as the Cold War Salute Project goes there are some real questions that have to be asked about our contractual relationship if any, liability, and tax concerns are just to name a few. Any of our Members especially Board Members involved directly or indirectly in this project may not be appropriate as it may open us up to litigation and tax problems. I think if we donate or sponsor part of the ride as a group it is more appropriate and we should insulate ourselves from the a fore mentioned possible pitfalls. Well that's my take on that. looking forward to seeing those of you who will be there in D. C.
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Sean P Eagan
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(Message edited by seaneagan On 04/22/2012 23:49)
I am looking forward to our May 1st meeting in D.C. We as Members need to stay focused on the goals of this organization. We have established a tradition of meeting and visiting our respective representatives in House and Senate offices every year on this date. I think it is important we maintain our presence there as well as our ceremony at Arlington.
In May of 2010 I asked to be removed from the Board due to health and time issues. In the last year I have recharged my batteries taking a hiatus from my blog for 3 months for a time from ACWV activities for the first time in 5 years. Current members might well understand the reason why it is necessary to take a break and refocus to prevent burning out. I sit here today on the eve of our meeting in Washington D.C. renewed with a new enthusiasm and vigor ready to work for our cause. It is the reason why I have asked the leadership at ACWV Inc. to reinstate me as a Board Member.
As far as the Cold War Salute Project goes there are some real questions that have to be asked about our contractual relationship if any, liability, and tax concerns are just to name a few. Any of our Members especially Board Members involved directly or indirectly in this project may not be appropriate as it may open us up to litigation and tax problems. I think if we donate or sponsor part of the ride as a group it is more appropriate and we should insulate ourselves from the a fore mentioned possible pitfalls. Well that's my take on that. looking forward to seeing those of you who will be there in D. C.
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Sean P Eagan
Former Chairman American Cold War Veterans
(Message edited by seaneagan On 04/22/2012 23:49)
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Date Posted:04/22/2012 23:31
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PNV. Very interesting. Point taken. Question is, does everyone share your claims? Or, does anyone really care? Or are they only concerned about the results for the medal regardless of who or how it gets done? When it was against my agenda, nobody cared, so now when it becomes contrary to your agenda, it becomes your problem. I can relate. I hear ya.
Date Posted:04/23/2012 04:15
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Folks I like to think my agenda is what is best for ACWV, and not for my personal gai, now having said that I am no saint having had my moments.
I am wondering what is ACWV's goals as well agenda as of this moment and why at this stage I hear crickets from the leadership most of all Scot who has yet to speak about his post prior where he said he would fully disclose the ACWV tour.
As for the membership two lone voices even if one is a former chair is not the best direction forward when major issues are just hanging waiting not to be solved or worse talked about in how to solve the current impasse that Scot has placed on leadership as well members.
PNV
I am wondering what is ACWV's goals as well agenda as of this moment and why at this stage I hear crickets from the leadership most of all Scot who has yet to speak about his post prior where he said he would fully disclose the ACWV tour.
As for the membership two lone voices even if one is a former chair is not the best direction forward when major issues are just hanging waiting not to be solved or worse talked about in how to solve the current impasse that Scot has placed on leadership as well members.
PNV
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Date Posted:04/23/2012 11:08
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You are the ACWV so their agenda has to be a good fit to yours. It's a two way street. If the agenda doesnt meet your agenda, what else are you fighting for? Everyone elses agenda? I pay my own bills, nobody pays mine. Same as I don't pay everyone elses bills. It's nice to say "Not for my personal gain and that my agenda is what is best for ACWV". It looks good in writing but comon. Lets be honest about it. We ARE the agenda involved.
Date Posted:04/23/2012 11:44
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Well I need to clear up some points here folks, and sorry about the prior post was doing music on IE and used FireFox that cannot be magnified so could not see what I was saying ; }
I should have said my Goals VS agenda, next on leadership I am talking to Scot blocking Frank's trying to have a conference VIA phone with the other board members where Scot has to explain just what the Hell he is doing, he has put Jerry & board members in an awkward position, taking his ball and running home is not what a leader should do.
As far as Sean taking back his { Platform } he only is keeping Scot from Kicking out forum members { like 29palms } as well controlling others posts or from speaking about what is on going, folks need to see that they are important to ACWV and are not placed on MUTE for the whims of one members ego.
Scot is not Blocked from speaking nor is anyone else here anymore and Sean has allowed 29palms back per my request he agreed that it should not have happened along with Frank & I, that Scot has been the wild card where leadership has been overwhelmed far and away over their normal duties is part & parcel of leadership giving him to much leeway, Jerry letting Scot ramble on about DUES, Jerry letting Scot kick out or fire people belies the fact Scot was told time & time again to Stand Down by leadership, one key point { Dues are voluntary from members } as all know Scot attacked me over & over to include Firing me in this forum, he also kept me from doing what leaderships asked in the certificate update for 2012.
Frank tried to solve this In House & is still trying to do so, Scot has and is blocking those efforts, as for my request to Paul this is the time to make a stand, I know you have a life, you are quite busy in all you do yet you are needed as well your wisdom on the board, I also feel the board needs to expand to 7 or 9 members to be more diverse, to spread the load as well support the National Chair that has had to carry much of the load, the few board members of only 3 can not handle Scot or deal with his actions, when only one board member might lock this up in a draw, could this be the case for why it is not moving forward or is it being once more trying to get Scot to pull back.
PNV
I should have said my Goals VS agenda, next on leadership I am talking to Scot blocking Frank's trying to have a conference VIA phone with the other board members where Scot has to explain just what the Hell he is doing, he has put Jerry & board members in an awkward position, taking his ball and running home is not what a leader should do.
As far as Sean taking back his { Platform } he only is keeping Scot from Kicking out forum members { like 29palms } as well controlling others posts or from speaking about what is on going, folks need to see that they are important to ACWV and are not placed on MUTE for the whims of one members ego.
Scot is not Blocked from speaking nor is anyone else here anymore and Sean has allowed 29palms back per my request he agreed that it should not have happened along with Frank & I, that Scot has been the wild card where leadership has been overwhelmed far and away over their normal duties is part & parcel of leadership giving him to much leeway, Jerry letting Scot ramble on about DUES, Jerry letting Scot kick out or fire people belies the fact Scot was told time & time again to Stand Down by leadership, one key point { Dues are voluntary from members } as all know Scot attacked me over & over to include Firing me in this forum, he also kept me from doing what leaderships asked in the certificate update for 2012.
Frank tried to solve this In House & is still trying to do so, Scot has and is blocking those efforts, as for my request to Paul this is the time to make a stand, I know you have a life, you are quite busy in all you do yet you are needed as well your wisdom on the board, I also feel the board needs to expand to 7 or 9 members to be more diverse, to spread the load as well support the National Chair that has had to carry much of the load, the few board members of only 3 can not handle Scot or deal with his actions, when only one board member might lock this up in a draw, could this be the case for why it is not moving forward or is it being once more trying to get Scot to pull back.
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Date Posted:04/23/2012 12:42
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Thing is, everyone wants peace and quiet here and not to create a disturbance under the cloak that "Others view this forum", such as Pentagon officials, and congress members that can sway their votes to our favor. So if questioning leadership creates friction, why then question it? Just don't send money or join. That's about all you can do. By not asking questions and demanding accountability from leadership for its members, or getting answers, who knows what you are really supporting. Your organization can say this and that but if a guy is off cutting deals on his own or for his own agenda, and you know nothing about it......tell you what. Just hand me a blank check.
Sounds like you are making quite some charges against Scott. I don't see anyone supporting your comments so far. Makes me think everyone here is satisfied and not worth rocking the boat. Public opinion may look at you as a case of sour grapes. Just somebody that had a falling out over differences. Then again, whatdoiknow!
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Sounds like you are making quite some charges against Scott. I don't see anyone supporting your comments so far. Makes me think everyone here is satisfied and not worth rocking the boat. Public opinion may look at you as a case of sour grapes. Just somebody that had a falling out over differences. Then again, whatdoiknow!
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Date Posted:04/23/2012 14:22
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Well then I guess my being a case of sour grapes shall be remembered as a very fine whine from 2012 ; }
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Date Posted:04/23/2012 15:25
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Well, if members and readers are following the goings on like me, maybe we are waiting for more information. Facts, not innuendo or speculation. I ask of Jerry, please post what you KNOW, not what you assume or conjecture. This is starting a fire that may be difficult to extinguish. We have stated goals and the Cold War Salute could be a nice fit for us. It is troubling when there is dissension among the ranks. Every soldier has the right to complain and we are not an exception to that rule. So to all members, complain if you need to. Eventually we will see a resolution to this problem, real or imagined.
For now, I beg of the members to keep a cool head, see what unfolds and then take corrective action if needed. I don't know it has come to that and I don't know where I stand. Again Jerry, your voice could be a real help to us who are still in the game!
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For now, I beg of the members to keep a cool head, see what unfolds and then take corrective action if needed. I don't know it has come to that and I don't know where I stand. Again Jerry, your voice could be a real help to us who are still in the game!
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(Message edited by pdudkowski On 04/24/2012 08:18)
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Date Posted:04/23/2012 17:26
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That sounds fair enough for me. As for PNV, don't go away, your input here is cherished and important. So just from a sour grape to another, I'll take that bottle of 2012 wine. And PNV, I do thank you for sticking up for the 29palms in getting me back in the forum. Ooops. Did I say ME?
Date Posted:04/23/2012 17:59
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Wow - No, no secrets. The board is fully apprised and working on the details as they are still coming in. Important to note is that no one on the board has personal access to or financial gain to be made from the Cold War Salute Project or any other ACWV project. As for the virtual slander expressed against me here today, I can only say that the charges are wildly misconstrued and incorrect. We do strive to maintain a professional forum for our members, which is not an easy task to manage.
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Date Posted:04/23/2012 18:31
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