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Some of you Cold War Era vets may want to check out the DAV constitution and by-laws. A lot of the eras that service people didn't get an expeditionary or war service medal, are in fact considered by DAV to be wartime service. For instance, they include the time period between January 31, 1955- October 14, 1976 to be a "wartime period". Also they include November 4, 1979- January 31, 1990 as a "wartime period". I guess that is the way they look at it "if" you have a service connected disability. I thought I would share that with everyone in case you have a service connected problem. I have two, and one was only recently recognised by our government, so that is the reason I have been researching these issues. I just thought I would pass this along as I know of other vets like myself who have been through this grinder..............
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 13:21
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That is very important information.  Periods considered war-time by DAV covers a lot of us Cold War veterans not covered by inclusive dates established by others.  Thank you for this post.
Date Posted:04/23/2008 06:29
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Thank you Lostexair for that valuable info. Untill two years ago, I thought I did not qualify to join any VSO sense I served from 1957 to 1961.After doing some research on the internet, I discoverd that I qualified to join the Amvets,The American Leigon, DAV, and the VFW. Yesterday I was informed by the Illinois state VA officer, That I am A peacetime military serviceman.[ Go Figure]. What is every ones input on this?   Thank You       Harold;;
Date Posted:04/23/2008 10:16
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You are a war-time veteran.  You served in the Cold War which wasn't cold and freed millions of people in Eastern Europe.  You served in a very dangerous period in our nation's history and manned the wall that kept the United Staes free and secure.  The Cold War will go down in history as a very real war between two ideologies, and the West won.  I hope that congress will soon recognize the service and sacrifice of Cold War veterans because they wouldn't be where they are today without those veterans.
Date Posted:04/23/2008 10:49
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Harold, as long as you served 1 day after February 28, 1961, you are indeed American Legion eligible. If you are having problems with the state, join the Legion. They have Service Officers who are there to help you get the benefits you deserve. If the Post level S.O. can't help, they can work you up the chain. They have a very good track record. They usually "know the people who know the people" who can cut through the red tape.

I think you know our opinion. Peace Time Veteran is a phrase used by the civilian bureaucracy to avoid any financial responsibility. You did your time during one of the hottest periods of the Cold War. You deserve everything and anything you can get.

I'm sure most other VSOs have Service Officers as well. They are all trained to take on the government and their lackeys.
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Date Posted:04/23/2008 11:09
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I know how some of you feel. I have been dealing with the VA and hostile case workers for 27 years. I was recently at an appointment with a county vso officer, and she gets on the phone, "hey Joe I got a "peacetime vet" here, blah, blah............I am already sorry I went back to them again................

I am going to the VA tomorrow anyway, just so I don't explode..................

I think Mr. Dudkowski said it all.....................

Date Posted:04/24/2008 13:01
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Sean I am sure will be posting information from the news report about the VA and mental health care issues or lack of as an official is said to have covered up suicide rates, sadly this is not new I seem to recall hearing the same being done to Gulf War,VietNam and Korea Vets.

Glen

Date Posted:04/25/2008 00:04
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dav is about the best for helping you get disability. tried amvets, and they just want to fight. dav had the attitude they loved having the va for lunch, dinner, snack, whatever. treated me very good.
and after they won me 100% p&t, i remember them with a small check now and again
Date Posted:04/25/2008 10:21
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 Well, as the Cold War Veterans get older and older... they of course are going the way of the Vietnam and World War I and World War II Soldiers. Eventually as more and more of them pass on the United States of America will finally recognize that the Cold War was indeed was a War and that the Veterans have been treated very badly, nothing like the Vietnam War Soldiers were treated, but in some ways just as bad, we were also ignored.

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At the time that this is realized then Congress, the President and of course the Nation will finally honor us. Of course by that time many of the fine men and women that stood toe to toe with the Red Machine will have passed on and their next of kin will be the ones asking for the reconization. I feel this may be a very sad but true fact. I sincerely hope it isn’t, but I don’t have a lot of faith that it isn’t.

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In the meantime all that we can do is try to continue to stand the battle line as we have already been doing. Stand the line for the ones that have already fallen. Stand the line for the ones that aren’t able to stand it on their own.

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Date Posted:04/26/2008 10:42
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Why does DAV consider up to October, 1976 to be a war-time period and the other VSOs and VA do not?  Is it because DAV considers this period to be in the "Vietnam" era, or are there other conflicts that they recognize that the others don't.  By the way, I think the whole Cold War period should be considered war-time for VA and the other VSO membership dates.  The country was certainly on a war-time footing (including armed forces funding) and adopted a defensive deployment strategy during the entire Cold War.
Date Posted:05/08/2008 13:39
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I believe the reason is, the old law stated you got a 5-point preference for being an honorably-discharged veteran, ended on October 15, 1976. Also, the old law of the GI Bill education benefits ended in December of 1976. Benefits and awards and service dates don't always go together as some of us have found over the years..................so, if I had not of extended my enlistment during the Iranian Hostage crisis, and got out in 1980, I would not have received four of the ribbons I have. They had nothing to do with the crisis, but were only approved for those on active duty in 1981. Why not retroactive for everyone? I can not figure out why they do what they do, sometimes the logic escapes me. Sorry for going on so long, but I have made a study of these things for years, as I fought them for my benefits since 1981. Of course, this is just the way I see things...............

Date Posted:05/09/2008 15:12
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DAV dates continue to baffle me.  I am just as baffled here about DAV dates of hostilities as these guys were some 4 years ago.  (Posters above that is.)  How are these dates determined?  Congressionally as in the American Legion?  Can't be.  They don't even come close.  So no such thing as a VINO with DAV.  Only group I see here that has a large gap of ineligibility would be WWI to WWII. 
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