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- Pinnetta: DoD to Issue 'Drone Medal'
Posted on 02/14/2013
Let us see how much political power the VFW has with the DoD. I wonder why the Legion has not said anything yet.
- Masachusetts Vietnam Veterans Eligible for Bonus
Posted on 01/06/2013
Thank you for posting this info, Jerry. Let us see what will happen if Senator Hagel does get confirmed as the new Defense Secretary. If so, I wonder what his position might be on a CWSM. The fact that he is a Vietnam Vet, I believe can only help us. He certainly cannot be as bad as previous defense secretaries were.
- 'It is not newsworthy!...'
Posted on 12/13/2012
I wish to thank Jerry and Paul for the compliments. That was a good article in the Independence, MO.,Examiner. I will call Mr. Haight and thank him for the article.
I have been retired now for several years and I have some time on my hands for projects like this. I really believe that sooner or later the right people will learn about our cause and help us achieve recognition.
- 'It is not newsworthy!...'
Posted on 12/13/2012
I wish to thank Jerry and Paul for the compliments. That was a good article in the Independence, MO.,Examiner. I will call Mr. Haight and thank him for the article.
I have been retired now for several years and I have some time on my hands for projects like this. I really believe that sooner or later the right people will learn about our cause and help us achieve recognition.
- 'It is not newsworthy!...'
Posted on 12/12/2012
That is what I was told today from a New York Post Newspaper, newsman, Mike Garland.
For the past several months, I have been trying to contact Fox News by letter writing, e-mails, and trying to call their New York number at; 1-888-369-4762. I would call, leave a message, never get a call back. When calling this number, all one gets are recordings. I located another number of; 1-212-601-7000. I called this number and spoke to a pleasant receptionist. I just gave her a brief purpose of this organization I belong to and what we are trying to accomplish to achieve recognition. She stated that the reason why Fox News, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'reilly have not responded to your e-mails and or letters is that they are probably not interested in your request for news coverage. She did suggest that I try an affiliated newspaper with Fox News, the New York Post Newspaper. She gave me their number, 1-212-930-8000, and suggested that I speak to a newsman, Mike Garland. She patched my call to that number. When he answered I introduced myself, who I was associated with, and that I was trying to get some news coverage about what our organization is trying to do. I was professional and right to the point with him. After about thirty seconds into the conversation with him, he interrupted me by saying; " OK...it is not newsworthy...you may want to try another news network...good luck." Then he hung up the phone. So all that time I spent trying to get a little publicity for for our cause ended with; " It is not newsworthy."
So, I am not going to waste my time with the news media. But I am still going to keep at it. Thought I would just share this adventure with you guys.
Sincerely,
Rob DeVito
- What is the future of the American Legion?
Posted on 12/01/2012
I wish to thank Jerry and Frank for all their dedicated work. Thank you again. We have to stay the course for this CWSM.
For some of you, in the Nov. 12' issue of the American Legion Magazine, the National Commander, James Koutz, had an article about membership in the Legion. A few years back, the Legion would boast how they were the largest wartime veterans organization with three million members. The Commander would go on to say how important it is to have a growing membership, more boots on the ground, more voices to be heard, etc. According to the article, the Legion has a membership of 2.4 million members. That is quite a drop in numbers from just a few years ago. The goal of the Legion is to reach 3.3 million members by the year, 2019, the 100th birthday founding of the Legion. This is all wonderful and nice. That would mean that their would have to be an increase of nine hundred thousand more members to be added to what the membership numbers are right now. I wish them luck with that one. Does this new membership goal take into account over the next seven years how many more WWII, Korea, and Vietnam Era Veterans are no longer going to be members?(For whatever reason or reasons). It would seem logical that many more than nine hundred thousand new members would be needed to keep up their political power base, if they have any at all.
I wrote a letter to the National Headquarters of the Legion some years back asking them that if they support the concept of recognizing the services and sacrifices of former veterans so much, then how come they refuse to continue to include in their yearly national adopted resolutions support for a CWSM? To get a national resolution adopted, the proposed resolution has to start at a local post level, as many of us are aware. I tried that in my state of New York, back in March of 2009. When this propsed resolution got to the Dept. of State level, it was voted down. An answer I received was; " We are not in the business of telling the Congress which medals to support..." Nice response from the Legion! If one were to read the many nationally adopted resolutions approved by the Legion just this past summer, one would have to conclude that some of these resolutions are very flaky indeed. Perhaps, this is just a guess on my part, that if the Legion is going to push for a CWSM, then the Congress and or the DoD might indicate that funding for this medal could reduce VA medical coverage because it would have to be paid for somehow. I don't know. But you would never get an answer regardless.
It is incredible how someone years ago who was a member in the National Guard or reserve forces that was activated for national service for one day(during the U.S. Postal Strike) and be allowed to join the Legion whereas some men deployed along the Korean DMZ or the former, Iron Curtain, for a year or more, in "off-war" periods are told they do not rate veteran status, were not issued a NDSM, therefore they cannot join the Legion. I realize to allow all former Cold War Vet's who served on active duty to join the Legion would require a change in the Legion's National Charter by being approved by the Congress. There is no changing that policy. I can understand that part. What I do not understand about the Legion is that has the Legion's Executive board sat down with Congressman Boehner and Senator McCain and discussed the possibility of amending the national charter to include all Cold War Vet's? Is the Legion willing to improvise and adapt to changing membership conditions to keep up their membership? For whatever reason or reasons, the younger men getting out of service are NOT joining the Legion and the VFW the way that these VSO's want them to. So now they are scrambling for ways to get more members. I again wish them luck. I can only speak for my area of Legion activity. I live on the east end of Long Island, NY. The Legion Posts out here are run by predominately old men. They have no interests in any new ideas, thoughts, suggestions, about moving forward and keeping with the times. Many of them still think that the way of lifestyles of today should still be conducted the way things were done in the 1950's. A family only needs one car, one telehone, no computers, or anything modern. The Legion to them is just a place to call a social club for reduced drinks, dinners, and whatever else they can get cheap or for nothing. The Legion has its good points of Americanism, the Boy's State, their parades, and some people do work hard to support the veterans. But overall, they better do something or they are going to go the same way that the dinosaurs went.
Sincerely,
Rob DeVito
Past Commander of Legion Post 803
Southold, NY
- CriticalPast.com
Posted on 11/28/2012
- Cold War Veterans Recognition
Posted on 10/04/2012
You are lucky, Salrol. Sounds like people down there in Virginia have well planned events to try to recognize all veterans. People up where I live on Long Island, NY would not even have a clue as to what the Cold War was let alone dedicate a parade for them.
- Cold War Medal
Posted on 08/30/2012
I sent an e-mail to MittRomney.com many weeks ago to ask him if he would support a CWSM. I got the usual canned response of; "Thankyou for contacting Gov. Romney as a candidate for president. We will share your views with him...." Everyone here might as well send him an e-mail giving Obama's position on this when he was a senator as well. Maybe this will come up in the debates if enough of us did this. What do we have to lose?
- Did the Forum Die without notice?
Posted on 08/29/2012
No! It is not time to bury this organization. We are all fed up and disgusted as to how we have been treated by the DoD and the Congress. We thank the people in the Congress who have supported us in the past. Sooner or later other people will listen to us and help us with our cause. When that will happen, no one knows. If we give up now, then the DoD will claim victory over us. We do not want that to happen. We have come this far with this cause. Don't give them the satisfaction of beating us. There is the old saying; "Every dog has his day." We will get ours. They will have egg in their face. Perhaps it is just the Irish descent in me as to how I feel. We never give up or quit.
Sincerely,
Rob DeVito
- Did the Forum Die without notice?
Posted on 08/19/2012
NO! This forum is not dead! Nothing major is happening right now About a week ago, I sent out some letters to the executive board of the Society of The Third Infantry Division, which I am a member of. The letter basically asked the Society to support a resolution calling for the Congress to create a Europe Defense Service Ribbon(no medal, just a ribbon). The Society is having their annual convention coming up next month in Savannah, Georgia. I received a letter today in the mail from the Society's President, Mr. John Fisher, who resides in New Jersey. Letter as follows, to wit:
SOCIETY OF THE THIRD INFANTRY DIVISION
Robert DeVito
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August 17, 2012
Dear Mr. DeVito:
Have received your correspondence regarding a service medal and ribbon for Cold War Veterans. We have looked into this before but will again bring it up at the General Business Meeting of the Society during our up coming reunion.
Our previous inquires found that this measure was brought up to in Congress but John McCain who was Chairman of the Presiding Committee turned the measure down. Since Mr. McCain is still in office, I doubt if anything could be done at this time.
However we will endorse any future request to Congress regarding this matter.
John Fisher, President
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Interesting about Senator McCain? I thought someone on this forum indicated that Senator McCain supported Cold War Vet's receiving recognition of this nature.
I am going to call the Society's President, John Fisher to thank him for his assistance.
Sincerely,
Rob DeVito
Commander; Europe Defense Veterans of America
- Cold War Medal Wiki Page updated
Posted on 08/06/2012
A little article I read today in the Society of the Third Infantry Division's magazine(August, '12, page 20), about a little Cold War Service Recognition. The fella's deployed to the ETO might recognize some of this:
" Between April 30 and May 10, 2012, Major General lloyd Ramsey(USA Ret.) participated in V-E Commemorations in Germany, Austria, and France. General Ramsey arrived on 30-April, to Bad Brueckenau, Germany. On May 1st, a plaque was dedicated honoring the 3rd Inf. Division as well as all US Army units which had been stationed in the Rhoen area, during the Cold War. Bad Brueckenau is located next to Wildflecken(some of us remember this place very well)! A local mayor from the area, Mayor Brigitte Meierdierks' decided to dedicate this plaque to the Third Infantry's Division's Cold War Service..."
Too bad our generals and our so-called "allies," could not devote as much time and energy to Obama to help us out if they really appreciate our Cold War Service.
- Cold War Medal Wiki Page updated
Posted on 07/16/2012
You are right to be just as aggravated as me, Frank, Jerry, or anyone else about this situation. Somehow I still believe that if we stay the course, the right organization or individuals will take an interest in us and help us achieve our goals. By us quitting now, that would be exactly what people in the Congress and or the DoD would want us to do, give up and go home. I say, stay with it, even if our cause just irritates them.
- May 1st ACWV Meeting in DC update
Posted on 06/26/2012
I agree Frank that it looks dim for passage of a CWSM at this time. Perhaps for future legislation, we might consider a Cold War Service Ribbon for stateside duty and a Cold War Foreign Service Ribbon for overseas duty. Just service ribbons, no connected medals with the ribbons. One can purchase a service ribbon from Medals of America at retail for a $1.25. I do not know if the DoD is aware of this.
For the fellas deployed to Europe, changing the requirements to receive the AFEM would also be a possibility. With the Iron Curtain going up in 1946, the Berlin Blockade in '48, the East German revolt in '53, the Hungarian revolt in '56, the Berlin Wall going up in '61, the Czechoslovakia invasion by the Russians in '68, the tentions between the U.S. and the Soviet-Warsaw Pact Armed Forces throughout the '70's and 80's, one would have to ask if this were not dangerous times and conditions for our armed forces, then what would have had to taken place, a nuclear or conventional conflict with the Russians? If we are not deserving of a Cold War Service Ribbon or a Europe Defense Service Ribbon for our deployment to Europe, then why did we have to be there in the first place?
- Silver Star for Air Force Capt. Francis Gary Power...
Posted on 06/21/2012
I am glad to see that Capt. Powers was finally recognized for his service with a silver star. I was under the impression that according to the DoD that the Cold War was not a real war, only political tensions and rivalry's. I wonder why the DoD authorized him to receive the Prisoner of War Medal. Since when did the DoD determine that the Soviets were our enemy. They do not recognize my three tours of duty there along the Iron Curtain, nor any other G.I.'s service there for any importance. Must be selective recognition. But I am glad that someone who flew missions over the Soviet Union received some recognition.
- NDAA 2013
Posted on 06/13/2012
I just sent an e-mail to the site of Mitt Romney for President, in the" contact us" block. I mentioned how former Senator Obama stated how a Cold War Medal would be ann appropriate honor. How we have heard nothing from him since. I mentioned to Mr. Romney how important our duties were to stop and contain the spread of Communism from expanding into the rest of Europe. I do not expect a specific answer on this. Probably just the old canned response of; "your thoughts are very important to me... I will keep your thoughts in mind..." Perhaps everyone here should send Mr. Romney an e-mail to see if it generates any interest in our cause.
The VSO's are not going to do anything for us. You might have a couple of congressmen and senators who might speak up for us, but that would be about all.
Let's face it, there are no past or current military people who will speak for us on the hill. Forget about Obama doing anything for us either. We all know how powerful the DoD is on this matter also. What we need is a miracle.
Sincerely,
Rob DeVito
- May 1st ACWV Meeting in DC update
Posted on 05/25/2012
As far as getting substitution medals as opposed to a CWSM might be difficult to achieve. I would agree that there is merit to amend the requirements for some to be allowed the AFEM for those who were deployed along the Iron Curtain in the ETO. Three years ago when I was actively trying to get the VVA to support a national resolution for a Europe Defense Service Medal, the response I received was that it was not in the best interest for the VVA to support; " another Cold War Medal..." The VVA further advised me that they were working with the Retired Officers of America to have legislation adopted to change the dates of the American Defense Service Medal to include the period of the Vietnam Conflict. To date, not even the ROA can help the VVA with that request. I wonder what they are going to do now?
- NDAA 2013
Posted on 05/16/2012
You may have 311 congressmen co-sponsor H.R. 1968 and 79 U.S. Senators co-sponsor Senate Bill, s.402, if these two CWSM bills do not get out of their respective sub-committees, for whatever reason or reasons, then this whole deal we are trying to obtain for recognition is just a big joke on us by the DoD.
- NDAA 2013 introduced
Posted on 05/06/2012
I agree with Retus. I am still proud that I was drafted into the Army and served in an area where I could have had Soviet--Warsaw Armies attack my battalion within one hour along the Iron Curtain. Perhaps if we can get a congressman and/or a senator with some renewed guts and interest, we might get a new CWSM bill introduced that would be just a service ribbon as opposed to a ribbon and a medal. This helps cut down on the argument that the cost of the medal would be too expensive via the DoD.
- i need names please
Posted on 04/29/2012
Hi, Jerry. I will not be attending this years convention. It is not a question of money or time. It is just a question of principal. I wanted to be on the executive board but for whatever reason or reasons, I was voted down. I wanted to speak at the 2010's convention, but I was not permitted to do so. Why some people decide the fate of others who want to be a team player is beyond me. Why would someone from Senator Snowe's office contact you about your meeting? Why would you have to provide a list of all those who are attending? I have stated in the past(not that anyone would value my opinion), that if you are offered a CWSM whereby one would have to pay for it, you should take the DoD's and or the Congress's offer on it. Or perhaps you might be able to talk about a CWSM ribbon without the medal. It would be a lot cheaper as we know and or we could still pay for the ribbon if the question of cost comes up. Just my own thoughts. I wish you all the best at the convention










